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inono
30 Jun 11 11:51
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"Easy"? - I know how difficult it is

I am going to give this topic my best shot at increasing a start bank of 3,000 to 100,000 

For the purpose of this topic I will be posting my selections and stake using a points system

Betfair SP will be used for all profit and loss calculations unless otherwise stated

Commission will always be calculated at 5% for the benefit of all

I will always be posting my selections before the event
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Report undern June 30, 2011 2:00 PM BST
Well that is disappointing ... you reply to KC and OJ but not to me.
I didn't know you dislike me so much - I know we have different styles of betting - but to totally blank me is like I said disappointing to say the least.

Despite what you think about me - I genuinely wish you the best like everyone else that comes on here and gives it a go.
Report inono June 30, 2011 2:18 PM BST
Bet 1

I have layed Toshi Perth 14:20 £60 @ 2.88
Report inono June 30, 2011 2:20 PM BST
I do apologise undern - no offence meant, been busy studying and forgot to reply to your post

Thank you and good luck to you
Report inono June 30, 2011 2:30 PM BST
Bet 2

Win bet £100 Excavator Haydock Park 14:30 @ 1.32
Report inono June 30, 2011 2:37 PM BST
Bet 3

Win bet £200 Justineo Yarmouth 14:40 @ 1.6
Report inono June 30, 2011 2:49 PM BST
This will be my last bet for today if I am wrong, I am very confident with this one

I have layed Dumitas Perth 14:50 £300 @ 3.4
Report jamesdean June 30, 2011 3:00 PM BST
crazy, drifted like a barge and scooted up.

things can only get better
Report Knight Commander June 30, 2011 3:09 PM BST
Sorry to see you have such an unfortunate start inono.
Hopefully that's got all the bad luck out of the way.
Onwards and upwards!
Report inono June 30, 2011 5:00 PM BST
Knight Commander, jamesdean - Thank you - try again

Bet 5

I have placed a £400 win bet on Butler  Haydock Park 17:00 @ 4
Report greedkillsmybankagain June 30, 2011 5:16 PM BST
please please please stopppppppppppppppppppp




















overstaking

































if these are real bets
Report undern June 30, 2011 5:26 PM BST
leave Inono to get on with his thread. What he does is totally up to him. Likewise I don't tell anyone else what to do however if you wish to offer some constructive advice do it in the right way rather than come on and create a post such as you have done.
Report greedkillsmybankagain June 30, 2011 5:29 PM BST
my post  is the "most constructive" advice anyone could give
Report inono June 30, 2011 6:51 PM BST
This next bet should get me out of jail

I have layed Khazium Epsom Downs 18:50 £800 @ 2.32
Report redferrari June 30, 2011 6:53 PM BST
you started this thread with a liability of £108 and now you have a liability of £1056 - I dont think you will last till the end of today tbh!!! why you staking like a nutter? DONT CHASE........
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:05 PM BST
how you get on?
Report buzzer June 30, 2011 7:05 PM BST
inono you've been on betfair a long time yet you appear to bet like a complete novice! As you said you got out of jail but you're just playing Russian Roulette, rethink what you're doing and how you're staking because you were on the verge of losing your bank after just a few bets.
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:08 PM BST
funny how all these thread go wrong when people dont aftertime but every man and his dog on here is claiming to make 1000s and 1000s when aftertiming
Report dlarssonf June 30, 2011 7:15 PM BST
paulme you are one headwrecking ****, you are like a broken record
Report undern June 30, 2011 7:16 PM BST
i don't wish to spoil inono thread Paulme - but stop going on about every after-timing is all made up etc. Trust me it is not (well not for everyone). What Inono does standard lay selections before the start where as many others including myself do in-play trading and bets just before the off as I like to watch the money/odds change.

What the guys are referring to is - staking and money management (and the hard thing about not chasing) - which is key to successful betting. For instance with my challenge ... with first horse lays were to win around £6 to £10 each race ....I think inono bets should be around the 2 to 3% max liability of the bank roll - so that would be be £60 to £90 liability at any one time .... that way if you get a few hits you don't chase or you simply have the bank roll to keep going. It is not easy and I go off on a tangent every now and then myself ...
Report Lori June 30, 2011 7:16 PM BST
Presumably another of fluffs/fafh's accounts
Report buzzer June 30, 2011 7:16 PM BST
Who claims to make 1000's and 1000's paulme?
If you're referring to the new PC calculations someone who's been on here 10 years would have needed to make 25k a year, they've probably put in 8 to 10 hours a day over 6 days a week and have made less than minimum wage to fall into the 60% deduction 'profile'. Where you get this 1000's and 1000's from is a mystery, plenty of people have worked hard to gain a small edge and now betfair want more than half of it.
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:16 PM BST
just trying to out all the dreamers/liars on here bud
Report Rocket to the FACE June 30, 2011 7:18 PM BST
Why?
Report dlarssonf June 30, 2011 7:18 PM BST
who cares? worry about your own p/l and let the others say/dream lie , tell the truth - whatever.  its never going to affect you
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:18 PM BST
so many people find this "edge". funny that. yet no-one can tip winners
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:19 PM BST
Why? not fair on newbies on here.
Report Rocket to the FACE June 30, 2011 7:21 PM BST
Well you're fighting a losing battle.

You should spend your hours learning rather than spraffing sh*t.
Report dlarssonf June 30, 2011 7:21 PM BST
oh whatever , you are a bore and have an awful habit of just taking over/trolling threads.  I won't be wasting anymore time on you
Report undern June 30, 2011 7:21 PM BST
lets not spoil inono thread ... continue discussions with Paulme on his challenge thread that he started.
Report buzzer June 30, 2011 7:22 PM BST
paulme
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so many people find this "edge". funny that. yet no-one can tip winners


What's this tipping winners/making £100 a day rubbish?
It's not about making a set amount each day and backing x to win the 7 o clock, haven't you got your head around that yet?
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:25 PM BST
so what is it about buzzer?
Report buzzer June 30, 2011 7:31 PM BST
It's about backing a 3-1 shot at 7-2 or laying a 7-2 shot at 3-1 so over time you can beat the market. When you know you can you have to optimize your staking to  maximise the advantage you know you have over the market.
That's all there is to it so you can now go away and work out how you're going to do this and forget all about tipping and making a set amount each day.
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:33 PM BST
and how the hell wud anyone know if a nag is 3-1 or 7-2

where did you learn that magical power buzz?
Report inono June 30, 2011 7:35 PM BST
I have layed Yaa Way Newbury 19:35 £300 @ 4.7
Report buzzer June 30, 2011 7:37 PM BST
Would you like me to give you a few grand and ring you up when you should bet and how much you should stake? Good luck paulme.
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:38 PM BST
no i have my own money thanks. so you cant follow your statement buzzer?
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:39 PM BST
*up

so if it wins you lose a grand inono [;)]
Report buzzer June 30, 2011 7:42 PM BST
I've told you how to win, although i'm sure the majority know they have to beat the odds. Have you never looked at threads on the football forum with people backing a team at 2 when greater odds are available elsewhere? That's where you should start your quest.
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:42 PM BST
it won!!

£1000 lost inono?
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:43 PM BST
ok you told me how to win but how do i know if any odds or wrong. you still have to pick the winner really whatever. or if trading the player/team who is gonna lead
Report buzzer June 30, 2011 7:46 PM BST
If you can beat the odds losers don't matter you'll have your share of them but you know, over time, you'll come out ahead.
You're thinking on a short term/daily basis not over the long haul. I'm off here now.
Report redferrari June 30, 2011 7:47 PM BST
paulme - you don't have to pick the winner you just have to find 11/10 about the toss of a coin and repeat 1000's of times!!! If you were getting 11/10 about a coin toss you wouldn't care if you were right or wrong on an individual toss would you?
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:48 PM BST
true but how the hell does one do this.

did you all go to betfair university and i didnt see it listed on UCAS or something!?
Report inono June 30, 2011 7:55 PM BST
Layed Space Station £200 @ 4.2
Report inono June 30, 2011 7:56 PM BST
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Epsom Downs 19:55
Report paulme June 30, 2011 7:56 PM BST
Yaa Way  won!!

£1000 lost inono?
Report Dr Crippen June 30, 2011 8:15 PM BST
paulme  30 Jun 11 19:48   

true but how the hell does one do this.

You guess the odds the same as they do, and then kid yourself that one day your boat will surely come in, except that it won't.
Report paulme June 30, 2011 8:16 PM BST
how you mean my boat will come in?
Report Dr Crippen June 30, 2011 8:26 PM BST
You float your boat.
Report Knight Commander June 30, 2011 8:26 PM BST
One day my ship will come in but with my luck I'll be at the ruddy airport.
Report Knight Commander June 30, 2011 8:27 PM BST
Sorry to see you're struggling inono.
Sure you'll turn it round though.
Report Dr Crippen June 30, 2011 8:27 PM BST
A life on the ocean wave, is better than going to sea.
Report paulme June 30, 2011 8:38 PM BST
maybe one of the many PC payers should show us mugs how it's done?
Report five leaves left June 30, 2011 9:50 PM BST
Which sports do you like the most paulme?
Report oj1234 June 30, 2011 9:55 PM BST
inono your a good layer,and I have every faith in you, and I am 100% sure you will turn it around,since i have been laying horses you have had the best run I think 43/43 winning lays keep your chin up tomorrow is another day good luck mate
Report paulme June 30, 2011 9:58 PM BST
tennis, football
Report paulme June 30, 2011 10:00 PM BST
inono your a good layer

except that winning horse he layed earlier. cost him a grand Blush
Report five leaves left June 30, 2011 10:07 PM BST
Well I'd suggest you concentrate on betting on tennis only for the next year and see how you get on.
Watch as much as you can. Read the posts of those on the tennis forum who clearly know their stuff.
Keep a note of every bet you have the reasons why you thought that particular bet was a good one.


There's a start for you.
Report paulme June 30, 2011 10:21 PM BST
oh im a methodical bet record keeper mr leaves. arent we all?
Report oj1234 June 30, 2011 10:24 PM BST
that is bound to hurt the bank balance, if I loss £200 am ready to kick the tv out the window,but then again I have a staking plan and I stick to it,tell me this anyone welcome to comment,I often wondered about this, do any of you have lets say a lay bet for liability of £50.00,and the horse gets beat,would you then increase your bet for the next race and so on, or be like me and keep things the same, comments please
Report five leaves left June 30, 2011 10:26 PM BST
No. The vast majority of punters aren't.

You're obviously on the right course. Just keep doing what you're doing.Stay disciplined and put as much time as you can into studying those sports you like.

There's no magic formula. Just hardwork, discipline and experience.
Report paulme June 30, 2011 10:28 PM BST
thanks. shame we cant be betting buddies. i could shadow you.
Report five leaves left June 30, 2011 10:31 PM BST
I don't bet on tennis apart from he ocassional fun bet at the big tournies and don't bet on football at all, so you'll have to shadow someone else Laugh
Report paulme June 30, 2011 10:35 PM BST
what do u bet on?
Report five leaves left June 30, 2011 10:39 PM BST
Tv shows.
Report paulme June 30, 2011 10:44 PM BST
ahh X Factor etc... great website about that. for real? i won big on cardle
Report oj1234 July 1, 2011 11:19 AM BST
good luck today mate,hope you have a great day, and show all the haters what your made off [;)]
Report inono July 1, 2011 12:49 PM BST
Bet 1 - 112.8
Bet 2 - 100
Bet 3 - 200
Bet 4 - 720
Bet 5 - 400
Bet 6 + 800 - 5% = +760
Bet 7 - 1110
Bet 8 - 640

Bank Balance After Day 1 = 478
Report Rocket to the FACE July 1, 2011 12:51 PM BST
Just realised who paulme is.


LaughLaugh
Report inono July 1, 2011 12:51 PM BST
Bet 8

Tennis

I have placed a £400 win bet on Rafael Nadal @ 1.57
Report undern July 1, 2011 12:53 PM BST
Paulme was Paulol but I got him banned for causing havoc on my challenge thread. If he causes you grief on here Inono I suggest you do the same. all the best today in any case.
Report inono July 1, 2011 12:53 PM BST
Thanks oj1234

I need this tennis bet to pay off
Report inono July 1, 2011 12:55 PM BST
undern

Thanks - good luck to you also
Report buzzer July 1, 2011 1:06 PM BST
inono

I know this is your thread and i don't want to ruin it but yesterday you got out of jail and then, straight after, firmly locked yourself back in again! You are now in a worse position and, whilst i wish you success, can't see how you're going to profit, unless you just get extremely lucky, from this with the way you stake added to how, after a loss, you just jump straight onto the next race with, seemingly, no regard of the odds. You need to stop the ridiculous stakes which, after one loss, make you go straight on the chase and operate within a staking plan that keeps you in your comfort zone. You may be a decent judge but nobody can tell if you lose your entire balance after four or five reverses!
Good luck today.
Report inono July 1, 2011 7:50 PM BST
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Bet 8

Tennis

I have placed a £400 win bet on Rafael Nadal @ 1.57

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"Bet 9" - Typo Error
Report inono July 1, 2011 8:15 PM BST
Bet 10

I have layed Voodoo Prince Haydock Park 20:15 £100 @ 3.9
Report inono July 1, 2011 8:32 PM BST
Bet 11

I have layed We'll Deal Again Beverley 20:30 £100 @ 7
Report inono July 1, 2011 8:43 PM BST
Bet 12

I have layed Maggie Mey Haydock Park 20:45 £100 @ 4.2
Report inono July 1, 2011 8:55 PM BST
Bet 13

I have layed Simple Jim Beverley 21:00 £100 @ 7.4
Report inono July 1, 2011 9:16 PM BST
Bet 14

I have layed Experimentalist Haydock Park 21:15 £100 @ 6.6
Report ocean0201 July 1, 2011 9:16 PM BST
a 100% day for you innno...VWD and gl!
Report inono July 1, 2011 9:27 PM BST
ocean0201

Thanks - I needed a good day today after a bad start
Report oj1234 July 1, 2011 9:32 PM BST
well done mate,now keep it going, were is all the haters now,well done again Laugh
Report inono July 1, 2011 9:37 PM BST
Bet 1 - 112.8
Bet 2 - 100
Bet 3 - 200
Bet 4 - 720
Bet 5 - 400
Bet 6 + 800 - 5% = +760
Bet 7 - 1110
Bet 8 - 640

Bank Balance After Day 1 = 478

Bet 9 + 228 - 5% = + 216.60
Bet 10 + 100 - 5% = + 95
Bet 11 + 100 - 5% = + 95
Bet 12 + 100 - 5% = + 95
Bet 13 + 100 - 5% = + 95
Bet 14 + 100 - 5% = + 95

Bank Balance After Day 2 = 1169.6
Report inono July 1, 2011 9:40 PM BST
oj1234 - Thanks

I see you are doing very well with your lays in the "fancy a lay a day thread" - keep it going and win plenty
Report Knight Commander July 1, 2011 10:47 PM BST
That's more like it inono - well done today.
Report inono July 2, 2011 6:38 AM BST
Thank you Knight Commander  - good luck today
Report inono July 2, 2011 2:07 PM BST
Bet 15

I have layed Millyluvstobouggie Leicester 14:10 £200 @ 3.5
Report inono July 2, 2011 2:24 PM BST
Bet 16

I have layed Springinmystep Beverley 14:25 £300 @ 3
Report scandanavian_haven July 2, 2011 2:27 PM BST
It would of been nice if you'd of answered Buzzer's post at 13:06 yesterday.
Report inono July 2, 2011 2:34 PM BST
Bet 17

I have placed a £60 win bet on Workforce Sandown Park 15:10 @ 2.74
Report undern July 2, 2011 3:42 PM BST
unlucky Inono - wish you all the best whatever you decide to do. cheers.
Report inono July 2, 2011 7:58 PM BST
Bet 18

I have placed a £7 win bet on Ted's Brother Carlisle 20:00 @ 4.2
Report inono July 2, 2011 8:07 PM BST
Bet 19

I have placed a £2.60 win bet on Lady Chloe Nottingham 20:10 @ 5
Report inono July 2, 2011 8:23 PM BST
Well that is the worst run I have had in many years of gambling
Fortunately I am still showing a decent overall profit
I will now take a short break and try again in the near future

Please do take note - always gamble with what you can afford - never risk more than you should
Report oj1234 July 2, 2011 9:10 PM BST
ALL THE BEST MATE, I WAS SORRY TO SEE THEM LAST FEW BETS, BUT YOU ARE A STRONG MAN AND I WILL SPEAK TO YOU SOON, ALL THE BEST OF LUCK from oj1234
Report Knight Commander July 2, 2011 9:33 PM BST
Sorry to see you struggling like this inono. If it's any help I think that Luck ebbs and flows and maybe you just caught the cycle at the wrong time. The wheel will turn though.
GL.
Report paulme July 3, 2011 12:14 AM BST
I have layed Yaa Way Newbury 19:35 £300 @ 4.7
was that a £1000 loss inono?
Report greedkillsmybankagain July 3, 2011 11:04 AM BST
Shocked
Report greedkillsmybankagain July 5, 2011 9:02 AM BST
Sad
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