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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13954708
http://corporate.betfair.com/investor-relations/results-centre.aspx
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Report pxb • June 29, 2011 8:39 AM BST
It added that it saw a big rise in gambling on football matches, which increased by 24%.

lol,

cos thats where the pc churners go.
Report pxb • June 29, 2011 8:46 AM BST
And nothing on all that non sports market stuff bf has spent a fortune on.

A blackhole as I predicted.
Report viva el presidente! • June 29, 2011 10:07 AM BST
"Its pre-tax profit for the 12 months to 30 April totalled £26.6m, up 50% from £17.8m a year earlier. Its revenues rose 8% to £368.6m."

so, um, what crisis is the latest hike solving exactly?
Report modk • June 29, 2011 10:08 AM BST
average profit per account is down
Report Sandown • June 29, 2011 10:09 AM BST
The headlines for me are

1. BF's profit still way short of B365's on-line traditional bookmaking model

2. Horseracing revenue showed slight fall yr on yr and is now exceeded by football revenue

3. BF's claim to use PC funds to boost new punters not reflected in fall of commercial & marketing spend of £8m = share of rev down from 28.5% to 24%

4. Cash flow almost entirely spent on capital developments

5. Charging winners more established as key principle

6. BF claim that "core customers remain very loyal" which is one way of reading the situation re. monopoly

Still do not come across as a "betting" company - want to be seen as a "tech" company
Report dashero • June 29, 2011 10:09 AM BST
Inflated figures due to world cup so next years figures will be more telling imo....
Report viva el presidente! • June 29, 2011 10:11 AM BST
"A huge amount has been achieved during the period, and I'm delighted that we have more customers than ever resulting in a record number of bets placed and that we've reported record revenue and profitability.

"Despite these successes, revenue growth... could have been stronger but we have delivered a significant improvement in margin resulting in profitability for the year above expectations."


again, where is the crisis exactly?
Report pxb • June 29, 2011 10:13 AM BST
Inflated figures from pc churning, which is a one off boost to revenue.

Time to take my bf winnings and short the stock.
Report viva el presidente! • June 29, 2011 10:20 AM BST
well, yeah - but the pc's been here for 3 years and was never intended as temporary, so inflated profit from PC churning has to be seen as permanent too. the "one-off boost" would have come after year one.
Report pxb • June 29, 2011 10:36 AM BST
The key change was to lifetime winnings in late 2009 and it would take some time for peeps to figure out and implement strategies.

The latest financial year began April 2010. So I standby its a one time boost from pc churning.

Its onetime in the sense the %age revenue increase won't be repeated in subsequent years.
Report brendanuk1 • June 29, 2011 11:45 AM BST
Arpu down across the board with poker particularly poor. Arpu from sports down every year since 2008.
Report brendanuk1 • June 29, 2011 11:53 AM BST
Actually arpu from everything sports,gsmes,poker down every year since 2008. doesnt give records for before then
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