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Ernie__Bert
25 May 11 22:10
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By:
Deltâ
When: 25 May 11 22:11
trading

HR

off 500 bank
By:
Ernie__Bert
When: 25 May 11 22:13
back to lay i take it? horseracing?
By:
Deltâ
When: 25 May 11 22:15
b to l
l to b

yep horseracing
By:
Ernie__Bert
When: 25 May 11 22:16
l to b is safer or am I wrong?
By:
Deltâ
When: 25 May 11 22:18
correct

u is wrong
By:
Ernie__Bert
When: 25 May 11 22:21
so back favs and lay in running?

I dont think I would have the skills or software for thisLaugh
By:
Coachbuster
When: 26 May 11 12:11
Slowest and safest ?


Trading the 1-1 draw in soccerball ,you can't get safer than that .Not exactly the route to riches though Happy
By:
five leaves left
When: 26 May 11 12:55
McDonalds.
By:
flatliner
When: 26 May 11 13:51
Ricks.
By:
Trevh
When: 26 May 11 18:35
E&B, if you're looking for a slow safe way, I would avoid horse racing trading like the plague!

Depending on how experienced you are, it's quite achievable to make money slowly and safely in football correct score markets, and as a starter I recommend laying the 0-0 in matches with fairly good liquidity, but always redding-up before/as the price halves from sp.

Each bet will then be at evens, and the edge is in the fact that layers hold the price up for too long giving you more than 26 minutes (or bookies prices) exposed for the win.

It does work, but the difficult part is discipline with redding-up, and keeping your head up when you have to red-up 10 matches in a row. Most will fail here.
By:
Ernie__Bert
When: 26 May 11 21:07
Cheers Trevh,

So if you lay say Barcelona v Man Utd at 10/1 for 50 for a 0 0 you wait until its 5/1 to exit with a 250 loss?
Whats the the 26mins about?

I have tried this market but I know now my betting was very high risk. Looking at new ways before I commence again in October. You say as a starter what other ones do you recommend ? I got hooked on laying ht 0 0s, made a fortune out of it before upping the stakes and through meeting bad luck and making bad judgement it went pete tong! Im just trying to explore safer methods.
By:
aueng
When: 26 May 11 22:17
hitting a few 0-0s = heartbreaking
By:
mandarin
When: 26 May 11 22:25
How much would yu pay me to show yu? Happy
By:
Ernie__Bert
When: 26 May 11 22:29
a years supply of mandarinsBlush
By:
mandarin
When: 26 May 11 22:36
lol...nice one E&B
By:
saddlers hall
When: 26 May 11 22:47
Coachbuster

what does trading the 1-1 entail?
By:
lux
When: 26 May 11 22:48
arbing the easiest way not necessarily slow though, depends on your bank
By:
slt2005
When: 26 May 11 22:54
Agree. Arbing + offers. £100 a month perfectly achievable. Don't necessarily need a big bank - google may well be your friend
By:
Trevh
When: 27 May 11 01:36
Aueng : hitting a few 0-0s = heartbreaking

Why?? All bets are at evens as said above.



E&B : So if you lay say Barcelona v Man Utd at 10/1 for 50 for a 0 0 you wait until its 5/1 to exit with a 250 loss?
Whats the the 26mins about?


No, your loss at 5.0 will be your stake, £50 in your example, hence it's always an even money bet.

I mentioned 26 mins because that's the typical time that a goal will be scored before or after, making 26/27 minutes the average true value at evens. Bookies will often be offering around 26 minutes at 5/6.

Here on BF though, you can have the same bet at evens for perhaps 33 minutes (a better price and an extra 7 minutes exposed to the win) which is obviously a nice edge long term.
By:
Lex
When: 27 May 11 08:53
LOL Deltâ

100 a day from a 500 bank. so every 5 days double the bank and after a few months have more money than God and save the world economy.
By:
Lori
When: 27 May 11 09:14
Slowest and safest ?

Wait outside off licences until a group of kids wants cigarettes or booze, and keep the change.
By:
U.A.
When: 27 May 11 11:26
Why are you looking for the slowest way when you have already specified the time period being a week?

Are you saying that you want to be doing something every day finishing off late on sunday evening? The slowest way would probably involve trading as many things as humanly possible going through every day and every night 7 days a week.

Surely you should look for a slightly quicker way to make that weekly income and give yourself some time off.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 27 May 11 16:54
saddlers hall     26 May 11 22:47 
Coachbuster

what does trading the 1-1 entail?
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Saddlers, if you follow the 1-1 scoreline you will note it suffers from very little depreciation ,also once a goal is scored the price remains pretty much the same (assuming the match is between fairly even teams )
If you also note during the first half  that it is possible on certain games to bet on the scoreline and in 2/3 cases end up level with 1/3 making you a modest profit.

I was using a tiny bank in the early days and with a bit of hard work and endeavour was able to make a weekly profit.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 27 May 11 16:56
It's also a brilliant way to bet in real time,make a few quid and get some invaluable experience about how the market works and reacts to situations such as goals and red cards.
By:
saddlers hall
When: 27 May 11 19:30
thanks coach buster. im unemployed at the moment so it would be great if I could make a guaranteed income, well any sort of income.  I presume you lay the 1-1 and back it back when the price begins to decrease? do you think it would be possible to make 500 a week? thanks for info
By:
Coachbuster
When: 27 May 11 22:46
Yes , i used to lay and buy ...normally laying after 50 minutes ,thats when the price used to dip , i doubt i could ever make 500 a week using such a system, it was more like 60-70 a week using a 300 bank or so.

  It's a good starter though , with a bigger bank there are more lucrative (albeit riskier) avenues to explore.

Good luck anyway.
By:
Ernie__Bert
When: 27 May 11 23:15
What are these more lucrative (albiet riskier ) avenues?
By:
noukari
When: 28 May 11 11:39
aussie greyhounds, come join the fun
By:
Trevh
When: 28 May 11 21:19
E&B : So if you lay say Barcelona v Man Utd at 10/1 for 50 for a 0 0 you wait until its 5/1 to exit with a 250 loss?
Whats the the 26mins about?


ManU 0-0 kicked off at 9.4 and had fallen to 7.4 when the goal was scored at 27 minutes - fantastic value.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 28 May 11 22:41
There are plenty Ernie .

laying 1000/1 shots for a start Happy
By:
Trevh
When: 29 May 11 00:53
True Coach. When I looked, about £50 (£25,000) had been matched on the Barca - ManU 0-0 after the goal at 1000.0 by layers freeing up their money.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 29 May 11 12:12
ah yes Trevh !  the 'dead' scores. I  see these matched quite a lot but i rarely get involved with them , why ?  because i always remember that game  where the 1000 was laid after a goal only for the goal to be ruled out Shocked

They're safe enough some time later of course.
By:
no moves
When: 30 May 11 01:40
what about scores like arsenal 4-0 newcastle at half time only to draw 4-4, the person who laid £50 on that 1000/1 I bet didn't entirely feel too endeared by the concept of laying total no-hopers for profit.
By:
flatliner
When: 30 May 11 02:45
Sorry. Ricks and fixs.
By:
the class of 84
When: 30 May 11 12:01
noukari : aussie greyhounds, come join the fun


would you care to elaborate a bit more please.
By:
ZEALOT
When: 30 May 11 23:40
bull shyte
By:
Coachbuster
When: 31 May 11 11:06
no moves-  yes,that would have caught a few out no doubt .. but you have to look at the bigger picture ,how often does that occur ?  [;)]

also,and i hate  aftertiming , but  i wouldn't have recommended that bet to a newbie , there are even safer 1000/1 lays .
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 31 May 11 12:16
They are two different situations.

In the first, it can't finish 0-0 if there has been a goal.

In the second, despite being 4-0 it can end 4-4. Or 44-44.


The majority of the time it isn't a case of why would you lay at 1000 but why would you back at 1000
By:
Coachbuster
When: 31 May 11 12:31
which reminds me ,i have came unstuck one time or another on a 1000/1 shot at low stakes thankfully   , the first one  was Celtic v Falkirk i'm pretty sure
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