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nonni
24 Apr 11 21:03
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Hello -

I know that the key to successful gambling is discipline.  Without it you will never have a profit from your gambling.

I have found a system that works quite well.  If I look at my history, I've only lost 1 out of 50+ bets.  This is no secret, I pick a football game and bet on that there will be at least one goal per game.  Tonight I was waiting for the Atletico Madrid - Villarreal game to begin.  But I was bored, so I decided to bet on Miami Heat to win 76'ers.  The plan was only to put bets on this game and wait for the Spanish football to begin. 

Needless to say, I lost money on basketball - while Atletico won 4-1. 

The moral of the story is that if I had waited for the football game, I would have made a profit (from a 95% safe system).  But instead I lost money on basketball!

Some of you must have overcome the problem of such a lack of discipline.  Can you give me any advice that I can keep in mind to be a more disciplined player.
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Report undern April 24, 2011 9:24 PM BST
I like betting on all sorts of sports - despite being better on some than others.

I suggest you bet to a specific stake or liability for your main football bets and when you want to bet on other sports use very small stakes.
Report TheVis April 24, 2011 9:27 PM BST
How do you know the system works well if you have only had 50 bets?
Report rod hull April 24, 2011 9:28 PM BST
place your football bets and then turn your computer off and watch the match, if you watch the match on the cpu then log out of betfair. If you can even log out of betfair after placing bets to a winning system then this game isnt for you.
Report DaveEdwards April 24, 2011 11:23 PM BST
nonni, discipline isn't your issue. Gambling is. Your mental set is quite obviously fixated with the notion that you are gambling & that gambling is bad. This is manifesting itself in your betting on events where you are getting rid of any money that you gain.

Gamblers play at it & gamblers lose. Society fills peoples heads with these ideas.

Think work ethic, think investment. Any bet on here is just as valid as a stock market investment. If you have put in the required groundwork it ceases to be gambling.
Report cpfc4me April 25, 2011 3:45 AM BST
I know that the key to successful gambling is discipline.  Without it you will never have a profit from your gambling.

There's also the small matter of finding an edge. You can be as disciplined as a computer program, but without an edge you will simply lose over a longer period of time.

I have found a system that works quite well.  If I look at my history, I've only lost 1 out of 50+ bets.

As TheVis says, this means nothing. A sample of 50 is too small, and if your bets are all high probability which it seems they are, then it's no big deal at all.

What's your edge? What do you know about the games you select that means there is a greater chance of a goal being scored than everybody else in the world knows? I suspect you don't have one and are relying on luck. Which runs out.

To make money on here, you need to, as Dave Edwards says, do some groundwork. It's not as easy as laying 0-0 as countless losers before you can attest.
Report Wicked Whisper April 25, 2011 7:51 AM BST
95% system which the odds reflect, no? I'd say usual best odds on such games are 1.05 which generally represents a 95% chance of winning...

No real surprises here.
Report Lori April 25, 2011 10:30 AM BST
If you have a system that will make you rich and you still want to gamble on other stuff, you don't have a lack of discipline, you have a gambling problem.
Report Wicked Whisper April 25, 2011 12:50 PM BST
It's only a problem in the sense that he seems to be staking way too much on his side interests.
Report undern April 25, 2011 1:31 PM BST
Simply stake around 5% of your main bets on your side bets. ie: main bet is £100 simply have some fun/side bets using no more than £5.
Report Rs1 April 25, 2011 1:46 PM BST
i really dont think you have a system ... id really look in to that

secondly to pick 49 out of 50 id have to say is another lie .... or your the luckiest geezer on here
Report Wicked Whisper April 25, 2011 1:55 PM BST
Not really so surprising considering the odds he is backing at Rs1.
Report Rs1 April 25, 2011 1:56 PM BST
even at 1.15 50 times .... do you know what that amounts too ?

then tell me if possible
Report Wicked Whisper April 25, 2011 2:15 PM BST
It's likely he will be backing them much shorter, around 1.05, which suggests a 95% chance.
Report Rs1 April 25, 2011 2:28 PM BST
minus commission . pc charge if successful

thats an over 10/1 chance coming in .... then to be successfull to keep getting a 10/1 chance coming in

what about when 3 or 4 go against you ... your trully fecked

this is not a system strategy or anything .. its time wasting
Report Wicked Whisper April 25, 2011 3:03 PM BST
Plain
Report Trevh April 25, 2011 3:41 PM BST
It's not that uncommon to see runs of 150 matches without a 0-0.
Report Rs1 April 25, 2011 3:58 PM BST
uncommon ...

look back an tell me any division in the world when it had no 0-0s for over 150 matches an then come tell me thats common

you have no idea about odds do you ...truthfully  ... do you?

you cant
Report Wicked Whisper April 25, 2011 4:26 PM BST
I think it's you who has no idea Rs1.
Report Trevh April 25, 2011 4:28 PM BST
I don't see what "any division in the world" has got to do with it?

I've recorded tens of thousands of matches as they appear on the BF in-play schedule, and runs of 150 are not that uncommon. If you get lucky you could have a run of 100 without a hit, but unless you're achieving favourable odds it won't pay long term, obviously.
Report Wicked Whisper April 25, 2011 4:28 PM BST
Considering there is an unlimited amount of football games to be played in the forseeable future, 150 games going without a 0-0 results is near enough 100% guaranteed (if we trust in the odds).
Report Rs1 April 25, 2011 4:32 PM BST
if you work it out thats a 1000/1 chance to have 150 matches with 1 goal

is 1000/1 common ... do you have any idea of odds ?

are u that clueless

is that all your strategy is after 3 years ... you are an idiot
Report Kukken April 25, 2011 4:39 PM BST
The worst part for me, when it comes to overcoming the problem of discipline, is when I'm on a great winning streak I tend to up the stakes because of an increase in confidence, which usually ends up with me losing a good 70% of my profit from that very streak. Not the worst I know. But it's so retarded to throw money away like that.
Report Wicked Whisper April 25, 2011 5:59 PM BST
You're clearly an idiot Rs1, so I am done here.
Report Rs1 April 25, 2011 6:17 PM BST
you mean u never made sense

comical... what a pratt
Report Ernie__Bert April 25, 2011 6:47 PM BST
IT CANT BE DONE.. THATS THE ONLY CERTAINTY.
Report rod hull April 25, 2011 7:01 PM BST
for you maybe. Just because you fail at something doesnt mean everyone else has to.
Report Rs1 April 25, 2011 7:07 PM BST
rod hull u believe u can pick 150 plus 1 goal winners ?

whats the point ... you get 20 right an then 1 will wipe all your profit

what sort of dum strategy is that ?
Report rod hull April 25, 2011 7:40 PM BST
i dont bet on football so probably not Rs1. My comment was aimed at ernie & bert thinking he meant in general "it cant be done" like so many people who dont make a profit say.

Backing 1+ goal or laying 0-0 is not a successful strategy at all. Tried that years ago when i first started out.
Report Rs1 April 25, 2011 8:04 PM BST
football can be quite rewarding when you trade an find edges ..

fixed odds really hard ...markets are surprsingly efficient
Report rod hull April 25, 2011 8:12 PM BST
I only trade tennis now, taken a while but find it quite easy now the discipline is getting there. I try a bit of football in dec when tennis finishes but just lose as dont spend enough time on it.
Report Rs1 April 25, 2011 8:37 PM BST
i wish i could trade tennis ... i aint got a clue

i only do footy all year round then break for june
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