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does any1 kno of a any costly mistakes that hav been made. for example the wrong price being put up and it being matched
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Liverpool v Stoke 2008
Someone scored for Liverpool, a guy with fast pictures managed to Lay all the money for 0-0 up to @1000 before the suspend . Liverpool players celebrated for 30 secs , then the ref consulted the linesman and disallowed the goal .There was only about 25 minutes gone , but it ended 0-0. Another fast pics guy got burnt on the horses in March 2009: Race ending, one horse 5 lenghts clear at the line . The guy layed the 2nd horse @970 for a liabilty of £350,000 before it suspended . Seemed Free Money as he could see the race had finished . But the Jockey on the winner weighed in light . Winner thrown out and the 969/1 shot had now won. |
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You can just imagine the agony the guy must have gone through watching that Liverpool v Stoke game just dying for any goal to be scored.
There was talk on the football forum earlier this season of someone wanting to back Arsenal on the HT odds when 0-2 up away to WHU. They accidently put the 1.01 up against WHU & the lot was layed. About £400k was mentioned, but I can't confirm this as an absolute fact. Also seem something mentioned of someone getting done in a similar situation with the disallowed goal in a Spanish match. It has to be said though, that anyone who is trying to nick money off others & then ends up on the wrong end of it.....well you know! |
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There was Bayes' one he mentioned on the forum not too long ago. He said cost him about 18K when he backed the wrong tennis player and cross matching was turned off. May not be the biggest ever loss from a mistaken bet but it's the biggest loss i've seen admitted to on the forum.
Although my forum time is not as comprehensive as many others. |
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The fast moving nature of a lot of the markets just invites mistakes to be made. I should think there are some dreadful horror stories that have never been discussed openly.
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I forget the exact match, but it was something like South Korea u19 vs, oh, I dont know u19
Eurosport the only channel on the planet that had any kind of coverage and the team I forgot were 1-0 up with something like 4 mins to play. They scored a second goal and the scoreline went to 2-0 on screen. While Eurosport were showing the replay, the ref disallowed the goal and Korea ran down the pitch and scored to make it 1-1. All kinds of carnage. |
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and of course the fabled MSE error.
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While Eurosport were showing the replay, the ref disallowed the goal and Korea ran down the pitch and scored to make it 1-1. Than even happened in the prem yesterday, ref said it didn't go over the line, but it did! Goal line tech anyone? |
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Sky sucks for not adding eurosport to the sports package and forcing you to get the additional 'news' package to watch it.
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Tobermory, the guy who got matched on the Liverpool match should have been refunded, as Bf should always suspend fast enough to stop that being possible. I've been refunded when I was caught out, getting matched after a late suspension. Always been refunded, except for the la liga issues, where I didn't complain because I was never 100% sure that it was actually happening!
Lori the MSE error was a bunch of people betting 10 or 20 quid right? Or did some of them lose loads? Again, Betfair refunded them if I remember correctly. Here's my biggest ever loss: Feirense v Beira Mar Over/Under 1.5 Goals 06-Feb-2010 -7284.16 Feirense v Beira Mar Total Goals 06-Feb-2010 -11020.64 Lost more than £18k in just a few minutes (2010). 90th minute, market is priced up as if the game is going to end within a minute or two (0-0 is trading at 1.06), I've got money up laying goals everywhere, and the ref announces 14 minutes of extra time, followed by two very quick goals! Anyone watching could have known this, so the error I made was assuming that any blatant mispricing (0-0 at 1.06), would quickly be taken advantage of so that basing my own odds on odds implied by other markets was safe. Also lost £14k on the Arsenal v Newcastle 4-0 t0 4-4 fiasco. The biggest mistake I've seen was by a bot, in a Prem Correct Score market. After a goal had been scored it put money up trying to back an impossible score, matching everything at 1000, and leaving loads up at really low odds. It all got matched, and a couple of minutes later the same thing happened again. I didn't get any of it, but I think someone lost a collossal amount of money. |
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Fixtures 06 February / Feirense v Beira Mar; Over/Under 1.5 Goals Layed - Over 1.5 Goals 11.04 L 55.00 LOST -596.16
Fixtures 06 February / Feirense v Beira Mar; Over/Under 1.5 Goals Layed - Over 1.5 Goals 32.00 L 210.00 LOST -6,688.00 Fixtures 06 February / Feirense v Beira Mar; Total Goals Layed - 2 52.32 LA 210.00 LOST -10,934.88 Laying at 210, when the correct odds were probably sub 20. |
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The Arsenal loss wasn't a mistake though, just unlucky.
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Somebody laid a fav (about 6/4 I think) coming out of the stalls at Wolverhampton for 1000 which of course went on to win the race. That one was for about £250k.
What about the Bradley Dredge story where some online scoreboard had him taking a 30 when he had actually scored a 3 and then went on to win the tournie? My personal fav, being a rugby bettor, was the eejit who kept laying the draw pre-match in televised games going higher and higher each time so he could get matched. Was eventually caught out in the Salford v Celtic Crusaders match when he had gone as high as 100 pre-game and that one is estimated to have been a 500k liability. |
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The AW race where the fav was layed for £200k liability at 1000/1 for no reason.
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My personal fav, being a rugby bettor, was the eejit who kept laying the draw pre-match in televised games going higher and higher each time so he could get matched. Was eventually caught out in the Salford v Celtic Crusaders match when he had gone as high as 100 pre-game and that one is estimated to have been a 500k liability.
I know very little about Rugby and last time I checked it was my highest all time % ROI thanks to that guy |
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There was a steeplechase one evening at Towcester about three years ago. A horse in red colours fell at the 2nd fence, and Derek Thompson announced that Metal Detector had fallen.
He very, very quickly apologized that it wasn't Metal Detector, but another horse in red colours, but not before a popular Geordie off the Horse Racing Forum had managed to lay £150 @ 1000 thanks to having access to fast pics. There followed 5 agonizing, uphill Towcester minutes in which Metal Detector ground his way to victory. To the Forum-ite's great credit he refused to blame Thompson and admitted he should not have relied on the commentator. |
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It was, fw.
He conducted himself with a lot more dignity than I would have managed in the aftermath. |
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Search me.
Why not ask the man himself on the Forum? |
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Two weeks ago I misclicked 23.4k on Del Potro at 1.17 when I meant to back Nadal. Cross matching was off and I took out the whole ladder the other side, with the majority then getting snaffled at 1.17. I made Nadal 1.16x and got matched at 1.89 average Del Potro so technically I lost over 19k in equity.
I've had two other memorable misclicks. In one I got two eastern european (I think) women tennis players mixed up and backed the wrong one for 111k at 1.03. If it had made it through I would've lost about 105k with the state the market was in but fortunately I only had 107k in my account so the bet was rejected. I rewrote my software after this mistake but I still occasionally turn the safeguards off if the market is liquid (although after the Del Potro incident I won't do any more) The other was England v Andorra in the England -4.5 goals market. England went 5-0 up and I backed Andorra -4.5 for about 6k at 1.1. The market gorged itself on it before I realised my mistake and I had instantly spunked about 98% of the 6k in equity. |
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Some horror stories on this thread lol, sends shivers down my spine. The only huge mistake I've witnessed was back when I played the horses, and the commentator mixed up two horses and called the wrong horse as streaking ahead and crossing the line, which meant it was backed in to 1.01 when in fact that horse was way back the field! The actual winning horse was available at 1000.0 for a few seconds before the suspension.
Sky sucks for not adding eurosport to the sports package and forcing you to get the additional 'news' package to watch it. Sky totally take the piss, I want to cancel but I'm tangled up with a broadband contract. I can't fault them as an ISP though, but the TV package is over priced and the constant bombardment of insurance and compensation adverts are the last nail in the coffin for me. |
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The Feast of St. Raymond Novices' Steeple Chase at Southwell was, as McCoy himself said... "not only the most extraordinary race I've ever won, it's probably one of the most extraordinary races ever run.
Back in January 2002 he won at odds of 999/1 after being dismounted! In a field of seven horses were falling in rapid succession. McCoy was, himself, dismounted and layed at 999/1 for serious money. He then re- mounted and picked up the race, after which every other still in the race, fell leaving him to go on to win. This was the very first Betfair winner at those odds and, if I remember correctly, someone blew £200k on it! You can see the video here....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnE-q5rOEKQ |
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Investor, yes the Liverpool/Stoke guy should have got a refund if he beat the clock. Actually i can't recall what happened in any detail .Just that there was a long time betwen the 'goal' and people realizing it was actually still 0-0 . It is even possible the guy was following the match in one room and betting in another and that the market had unsuspended with 0-0 about 11 to back but he 'knew' it was 1-0 and placed his lays.
In that case it would have been like the Bradley Dredge guy (surely the Number 1) as the market presumably reflected the actual score but he 'knew' that Dredge had taken 30. I also remember that Rugby Draw Layer ,Epic Stuff. shame that thread was deleted in the 'upgrade'. Another great one on the horses was the time people were backing a favourite at 1.10 in a photo finish when it was not even involved in the photo and had actually finished 10th but the commentator mixed up the colours. Trev, I work for Sky and although we tell people when they order Broadband that this means they must have Sky TV for the duration, you can actually cancel the TV part of it (presuming you have not had a new box or HD/Multi Room in the last 12 months) and just continue with the Broadband/Phone. Plenty of customers decide they want Broadband/Phone only now , i put them through to the Cancelations Department, they have no problem taking the call and the customer just has to pay £2.50 extra for the BB without TV . Though if you are just wanting to cancel the TV because you use the channels but it is not worth the money they will very likely offer you a discount anyway. Though the 'News & Events Pack' for Eurosport is only £1 extra anyhow, and you get At The Races with that also, so better value than RUK imo  |
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That's interesting Tobers, it's good to know an insider :) I phoned them about 6 mnths ago when I realised that FreeSat existed and asked to swap to that. They said they would have to cancel my broadband as it's only available to sky tv subscribers, so they ended up giving me a discount for about 3 months instead.
In Sept last year I added sky talk which reduced the top broadband down to £7.50 a mnth, can't fault that as it gives me a genuine 20 meg download speed, so don't want to change it. Do you think if I phone sky again they will give me the same story, or say I'm contracted because of skytalk, or let me cancel just the tv package and sign up for FreeSat? Thanks for advice, apologies to others for thread hijack. |
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They could use that line, as technically in the T&Cs 'Broadband/Sky Talk is only available to customers with an active Sky DTV Subscription' but that is supposed to mean it is impossible to have the BB without the TV .But many people actually have cancelled the TV but continued with the rest .
I suppose though they may be able to say - while you are still in the 12 months for BB/Talk - that you are tied in with everything . And their managers would prefer them to 'save' a customer without using a discount. But as far as i can see on the system the TV shows as 'out of contract' when it is beyond 12 months even when they have recently taken the BB . The Isner/Levine tennis was a classic mistake of course when the scorboard was the wrong way around. |
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Ok, thanks for advice, think I'll leave it for now as calling sky is on a par with backing a 1.01 and watching it get gubbed., not exactly stress free :)
Back on topic, I once saw a football match where the score changed to something like 2-1, can't remember exactly, and the markets reopened and traded at that score, only for the match to revert back to 1-1, huge confusion and huge prices. |
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freddie i deleted flash player on firefox which i use for BF. I have it on google chrome which i use for pictures etc. That has stopped firefox crashing with that shockwave flash message.
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The shockwave flash crash seems to be due to an out-of-date Sony driver.
Download this: http://dlv.update.sony.net/pub/vaio/download/EP0000166578/EP0000166578.exe It's a big file, takes about 5 mins. to download, but installs very quickly. Basically it installs bluetooth. God knows why it should fix the problem, but it has done so for me. |
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FFS, if you don't trust it, just put it into Google and have a look at other people's comments.
There's no point asking me, is there? |
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That's OK.
 The link is kosher. I've used it. |
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Hi Guys
As accounts are private how do you know the amounts lost unless the loser proves so? seems unreal that you would lose 200k on an event unless your a bookie perhaps? No disrespect meant btw just seems totally unbelievable to me. |
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Excuse me for saying this, but you must be a little narrow-minded if you don't belive such amounts are both lost and won on here on a regular basis.
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lex the market information graph doesnt lie
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The earlier football match lori mentioned I'm sure involved Mexico U19 who scored a second goal, eurosport put up the replay and changed the score then went back to the match, with no explanantion that it had been disallowed, cue korean goal and carnage.
There was also a race at the cheltenham hunters meeting where about 4 runners went 1.01 on the run in. My personal favourite though was this race at Leicester http://www.racingpost.com/horses/result_home.sd?race_id=378167&r_date=2005-03-11&popup=yes probably not the biggest losses but for market chaos never seen anything like it with the front 4 coming down or running out at the last - allowing the tailed off plodding donkey nousayri to win. |
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You could probably ask someone to put up 200k worth of lay on Mickelson at, oh, 7.0 Lex and I suspect it would appear
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Would love to know the biggest win on here from an average punter (not a pro or bookie).
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Lori
You could probably ask someone to put up 200k worth of lay on Mickelson at, oh, 7.0 Lex and I suspect it would appear [;)] |
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not narrow minded - far from it !
Just its an amazing statement that one punter can lose that amount. I thought the graphs showed all money taken for that one price, not indivuals money? |
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When 200k appears at the same time laying all the "impossible" scores, it's not a big stretch to assume it's all the same person.
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