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TheVis
02 Mar 11 17:09
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2.7 million traded at 1.01.

What was the record holder up to that point?

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By:
GranpaChook.
When: 02 Mar 11 17:15
Wasn't there a famous one with Henin vs Bartoli that involved massive gubbage.  I think she won first set 6-0 or something and was a break up in 2nd and ended up losing.  Dunno how much got done though.
By:
TheVis
When: 02 Mar 11 17:19
Aus v SA ODI when a world record was set in first innings was another biggie but not sure it was anywhere near 2.7mill
By:
tobermory
When: 02 Mar 11 17:25
Henin was the biggest before, don't think it was anywhere near this though
By:
tobermory
When: 02 Mar 11 17:46
actually not sure there has even been a £1,000,000 one before
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 02 Mar 11 20:54
how much got done on the newc-arse game, btw?
By:
tobermory
When: 02 Mar 11 21:00
About 40k i think . No one fancied laying it.
By:
monaug5kid
When: 02 Mar 11 21:08
Wow Betfair must have pocketed some of this.
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 02 Mar 11 21:34
yeah, the skimmer will have had a field day.
By:
The Investor
When: 03 Mar 11 01:12
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how much got done on the newc-arse game, btw?

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About 40k i think . No one fancied laying it.


think it was a little more than that. I traded more than that myself, let alone the whole market!

Arsenal       1.01      35,866.36      Back      05-Feb-11 16:30      -35,866.36
Arsenal       1.01      8,033.73      Lay      05-Feb-11 16:34      8,033.73

I initially backed arsenal at 1.02 for £50k and largely traded out. When I saw how quickly my 1.01 got matched though, I scratched part of the position.
I was later able to back the draw at 490 and also backed Newcastle at 1000 prior to that. Could have traded out completely for a large profit, but chose not too...

The average price I backed the draw at was 5.76, all the way from 490 down to 1.22...
By:
tobermory
When: 03 Mar 11 01:38
Yes, just looking it up nearer 400k
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 03 Mar 11 01:44
jesus wept, Investor. you'll be getting the platinum hamper this year.
By:
Lusitano71
When: 03 Mar 11 02:06
the good old "Black Swan"

i feel sorry for no one, they got what they deserved, the lot of them!

ultra-short odds its a dumb, lazy bet (learned that the hard way) but i know its pretty fashionable here because i see it being backed all the time even in lower grade events

for you, Investor, i would guess/hope that you have the skills for that loss not to represent a big percentage of your bank but when i see 2,7 Million traded at 1.01 it just amazes me, how can they do it? some guys lost big time today
By:
The Investor
When: 03 Mar 11 02:14
Yeah, a lot of it will be people lumping on a 'sure thing'.
In my own case I've made a profit both back and laying at the short odds 1.01, 1.02 1.03 etc from 2006-2010.

When q1 2011 finishes I'll add these figures to my lifetime total, when I do my quarterly performance analysis. It will obviously skew them a lot.

For instance, for bets at 1.02 my 2006-2010 GP backing was just under +£26k, and laying was just under +£6k. The Arsenal game changes that picture completely.
By:
Avocado
When: 03 Mar 11 02:19
thats the problem with backing at 1.01, one losing bet will take away all your profits
By:
tobermory
When: 03 Mar 11 02:42
depends how much profit you made since the previous one
By:
Lori
When: 03 Mar 11 04:51
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Aus v SA ODI when a world record was set in first innings was another biggie but not sure it was anywhere near 2.7mill


I don't think that one hit 1.01, certainly wasn't 1.01 at halftime.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 03 Mar 11 07:40
This bloke:

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By:
TheVis
When: 03 Mar 11 13:08
Lori I thought the price was 1.01 after Aus had set the record total but I haven't followed cricket for a while and certainly didn't bet on this game so may have picked it up as a BF myth.
By:
Lori
When: 03 Mar 11 13:40
I could be wrong but I think it was 1.02/.03 at halftime (Though very conceivably 1.01 at some other point) because I remember people saying how crazy the odds were as it was a world record.

I'll go digging.
By:
LMansini
When: 03 Mar 11 15:12
SA lost a wicket in the first over or two, that should have been 1.01

But they started slogging straight after so it wouldn't have stayed 1.01 long
By:
manxy
When: 06 Mar 11 05:39
liverpool coming back from 4.0 down to win the european cup was a massive 1.01 beater, and a massive 1000 payout.
By:
Mr Magoo
When: 06 Mar 11 09:47
Going through Betfair's historical records, I think these are the top 10 1.01 gubbings (n.b. the data only goes to a few weeks ago, so the ENGvIRE cricket isn't in there)

759481 29/10/08 Arsenal v Tottenham
577615 26/06/09 England U21 v Sweden U21
509850 17/08/06 Clijsters v Dubois
500561 02/10/10 Nadal v Gracia Lopez
447574 06/07/07 Henin v Bartoli
442803 14/05/10 Australia v Pakistan
420934 28/02/10 West Indies v Zimbabwe
400254 02/04/09 Del Potro v Nadal
377991 05/02/11 Newcastle v Arsenal
353400 27/05/10 Fognini v Monfils

Fognini v Monfils is the only one in that top ten that wasn't in-play.

Amount matched is the usual Betfair double-count, and only includes 1.01
By:
DonNo1
When: 06 Mar 11 12:24
'Fognini v Monfils is the only one in that top ten that wasn't in-play.' Confused
By:
Mr Magoo
When: 06 Mar 11 12:44
The 1.01 for that was matched before the start.

I didn't add up pre-event + in-play betting so maybe it had some 1.01 in-running as well.
By:
the nugget
When: 06 Mar 11 23:14
The Vis/Lori the SA AUS ODI wasn't 1.01 at the break, but it traded at 1.01 after Dippenear was out early, but not for huge amounts.
By:
jimmy69
When: 07 Mar 11 00:26
The 1.01 for that was matched before the start.

Eh?
By:
Eddie the eagle
When: 07 Mar 11 09:29
We barely see Fed or Nadal being 1.01 before the off even if they play some "nobody" and you are saying Monfils was betted heavily @ 1.01 against Fognini before the match had even started ?????
By:
TheVis
When: 07 Mar 11 12:15
Thanks Mr Magoo.  Very informative.  The Eng v Ire game the new leader by a long way then.
By:
richiscoul
When: 07 Mar 11 16:23
What about that Man utd v Everton game this year, 3-1 up in injury time
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 07 Mar 11 19:23
so presumably england have been involved in 3 1.01 gubbings on the trot?

ireland (match odds)
india (tied match)
SA (match odds hit 1.01, iirc)
By:
Mr Magoo
When: 07 Mar 11 21:17
Just had another look at the Fognini v Monfils data, it looks very dodgy to me, here are the amounts matched on Monfils pre-match:

1.01    353400.6
1.02    391683.6
1.03    503025.92
1.04    251321.06
1.05    201817.4
1.06    142231.14
1.07    117480.82
1.08    137724.36
1.09    156033.8
1.1     110098.26
1.11    62486.86
1.12    57096.66
1.13    113833.52
1.14    117522.58
1.15    227546.48
1.16    264020.14
1.17    190947.22
1.18    118432.2
1.19    31734.36
1.2     60740.02

...and lots more, up to around 6.0 for decent money. That doesn't make any sense, I suspect Betfair's historic data is wrong for this match.
By:
Mr Magoo
When: 07 Mar 11 21:23
oh, and Fognini was also matched down to 1.01 (before the start) according to Betfair's data as well. Looks like their records are junk for this game.
By:
jimmy69
When: 07 Mar 11 23:56
Laugh
By:
ante
When: 08 Mar 11 00:30
That match was played over two days (it was suspended because of the darkness). So it was turned in-play first day and 1.01 was matched when Monfils was 2 sets up and had a break in 3rd set. Then the match was suspended and it wasn't in-running over night. Then it was in-running again when they resumed the next day.

So 1.01 was matched before the match was turned in-play for the second and final time and that's why your data seems wrong.
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 08 Mar 11 10:18
Although I don't have the data from memory Aus/SA was 1.01 at change of innings.

Which was fair enough imo.
By:
monaug5kid
When: 09 Mar 11 02:00
still is the biggest 1.01 loser ever.
By:
TheVis
When: 09 Mar 11 12:39
What is?
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 11 Mar 11 22:30
how low did england go today - anyone know?
By:
Crumb
When: 12 Mar 11 02:40
1.03
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