when to give up the day job and making it pay..

When you're bored and think that your boss is a total plon ker is as good a time as any!

just wanted to do a thread for full time layers..the do's and donts of laying...i would love to hear ur stories and how u approach ur daily work...if u make it pay or if u need advice and r thinking of going full-time...i may b able to help as best i can...no time wasters...keep it pro........:_)))

When you no longer have to ask that question.

I would imagine that the do's and don'ts of laying are exactly the same as those of betting.
Try to find value, try not to overstake etc etc.
A layer is a bettor is a layer.

ykickamoocow Joined: 01 Jul 10
Replies: 19 08 Jan 11 00:13   


just wanted to do a thread for full time layers..the do's and donts of laying...i would love to hear ur stories and how u approach ur daily work...if u make it pay or if u need advice and r thinking of going full-time...i may b able to help as best i can...no time wasters...keep it pro


poster, you have been on this exchange just 8 months. Why do you consider yourself
qualified to advise punters on full time betting ?

DREAMERS

CASHINVEST, hasn't taken you long to form an opinion, just 4 days.
Could you advise us on where we are all going wrong ?

8 months blogger lifetime punter.big difference.i layed the time of my birth and won:))))))
LORI,FROG AND ALLI
value is key to laying and backing..the value is already there for backing horses on betfair..knowing that u will always get a better price on ur horse is a bonus..laying is a different animal and u have 2 go lookin for the value..the more u do the more u will get rewarded...know ur horses..know ur trainers..eg most of johnjoe o neills need the run first time out as do ferdy murphys esp after the freeze when they would need a second run..keep it simple,keep it pro:))
and dont get to hot under the collar..its only a thread...:)))

I was being serious.

The answer to "should i go pro" is "no , if you have to ask"

Kenilworth

People's 'date joined' date is in reference to the date they joined the Forum and not betfair it's self, my date says 10 Nov10 - I've been using this site a helluva lot longer than that.

mesmerised, this came up before, and there was some disputing of when
accounts opened and forum contributions start, nevertheless, I would
have preferred he answered my question as it was civil and polite.

I'm guessing CASHINVEST used to be called PIP

CASHINVEST     08 Jan 11 10:52 
DREAMERS
kenilworth     08 Jan 11 11:07 
CASHINVEST, hasn't taken you long to form an opinion, just 4 days.

lol.

Kenilworth 09 Jan 11 10:50
mesmerised, this came up before, and there was some disputing of when
accounts opened and forum contributions start,


Without any shadow of doubt it is not join date it is the first date of registering to post on the forum for those that registered with the new forum and it is account opening date for those that registered under the old forum.

Find it a bit sad that the join date is used as some kind of badge of honour. Anyone, whether they've been on 5 minutes or 10 years area still entitled to their opinion.

Kenilworth there's no disputing here, I'm telling you I was using this site long before I bothered with the forum ,I didn't really notice there was one until it came up flashing blue saying NEW.

ebasson, I don't disagree with you, but as he posted a rather imflammatory
comment, I felt entitled to ask him to elaborate on it, considering the fact
that he has only been on the forum 4 days. Was I wrong ? If I was, I apologise
to him and to whoever else I may have offended.

I think Betfair have made a mistake with my Join Date  as it was only 2007 when I started  to post on here.

Ebasson61, I agree with what you are saying. Unfortunately Kenilworth I think Ebasson61's comment or feelings arose because earlier in this thread you also referred to ykickamoocow's time spent on the forum. I totally agree that if you are concerned that someone wants to give advice or if someone makes an inflammatory comment you should call them on it, but is there a need to refer to their time spent on the forum.

Having said that I respect your apology.

U.A. regards my earlier comment to ykickamoocow, I wondered why he felt
qualified to advise forumites on those considering going full time,
especially in view of his apparent short period on Betfair. Again I was
polite, but he chose not to answer. Why was that inocuous question seen
as out of order ?

Without any shadow of doubt it is not join date it is the first date of registering to post on the forum for those that registered with the new forum and it is account opening date for those that registered under the old forum.

I think that must be the wrong way round? My forum date is about July 06 but I joined BF in '02.

when to give up the day job and making it pay.

Funnily enough I am thinking the exact opposite ie is it time to knock this on the head and get a proper job?

Hello Kenilworth, apologies for the delay in responding. You were indeed polite in your question to ykickamoocow, although i think he did answer, he referred to embryonic/foetal prowess in his laying skills (something for which i would require further evidence before believing personally).

As mentioned previously I have no problem with the question just the reference to the timescale on the forum. Although I did not fully appreciate that at the time you were under the misassumption that the time you joined the forum is the time that you joined BF. If you did believe this then I understand/appreciate why you would make this reference to time spent on forum.

With regards to the original question, I do agree with Lori that if you have to ask then you are not ready, but also add that the two don't always have to be mutually exclusive. Why not start off by downscaling to working part-time if that's possible.

if you have to ask then you are not ready, but also add that the two don't always have to be mutually exclusive. Why not start off by downscaling to working part-time if that's possible.

U.A. I presume the above was a generality and not specifically for me.

Stop being so precious Kenilworth.
Nobody's picking on you.

Indeed Kenilworth it was a generality. I'm afraid I have no idea of your gambling/work status.

Stop being so precious Kenilworth.
Nobody's picking on you

he does seem a bit out of touch with the world in which most forumites reside in. Needs to realise even if you win a argument here, you've still lost.

When to give up the day job and make it pay   How long have you got
the real answer is when your good   very good .. the only prob you will have  is getting the wife  to say your good get on with it
why wifes like  security and gambling is not secure  Win the Wife over and the rest is a walk in the park .

And if you're not married ?

Frog, And if your not married ..... if your any good at  gambling   you soon will be  Married ... Gold diggers will be  there smiling

who wants a gold digger? muppet

i would say , if you're earning 30k and winning another ten on here then carry on as u are.....if you are earning 17k but winning 35 on here then think about handing in your notice...

How people can put in a 50 hour + working week (with commuting) then start on here have my admiration if they can make it pay! When the feck do you get to spend time with your families?

go part time first and then build the bank ,its the only way imo

Buzzer has made a good point.
Thus, coachbuster's suggestion is probably really the only way forward for those already full time workers with important family responsibilities.

FINE AS FROG HAIR     


Stop being so precious Kenilworth.
Nobody's picking on you.

That's a bit rich coming from you.

Not at all K.
I should be an example to you of how not to worry about be picked on.
After all it happens to me on virtually every post I make.
I would be more worried if it didn't happen.

I'm not worried about being picked on if it's
justified. In your case you don't have that problem.

Touche K.

buzzer, let em do it at lunchtime lazy feckers.

I popped out every lunchbreak for 5 years bar a handful, then went 3 day only, now i go in 1 day.

Used to enjoy meetings being told to do stuff by my bosses boss knowing id made his yearly salary that month in my lunch hour.

i did answer ur question kenilworth..8 month blogger lifetime punter...u think betfair give out details of when ppl opened their accounts.we have to post here to be accepted as punters..most serious players hav a throw away account...this is mine..i use it to blog..simple as.....:-)))

i started a thread here to get opinions from other ppl who bet full time..now the debate has gone on to length of forum membership which some ppl want to relate to how long i have a betfair account which is utter nonsense of course...
now back to my original topic
everyone in here is all ready part time..but i agree with havin an understanding partner..if they support u then it makes life a lot easier..the invention of bots has been a godsend for me and helps me spend way more time with my family..we hav a new arrival here and shes only 3months old...so u could imagine the upheaval in this house..my partner understands that this is our bread and butter and i tend to spend 4 to 6 hours working each day...i run 2 bots on 2 seperate accounts(did u hear that kenilworth i actually have more betfair accounts..wonder how old they r haha)...one runs a long term staking plan based on the maria staking plan but more refined and the other i use for placing underlays with ladder control..i cant tell u how important bots r..i dont know how i could work without them now...any opinion on bots and how they have helped u with ur betting..i have tried most..haha

ykick, ok you have answered my question, thank you.

no bother kenilworth...ur welcome...

how many edges can u find and how long can u exploit them....sometimes things become so clear u wonder how u missed it..it was always staring u in the face yet u were blinded by to much information,to many stats,to many opinions,to many sleepless nights and mostly by ur own ego...its like walking through a maze and suddenly u find a way out..edges r there to be exploited and after u think u found one the complication of how to put it to best use is even more daunting..and just when u found a way to make it work it fades away as if it never existed in the first place ..its like big brother has been watching u and as soon as u start making money he puts a stop to it..how long do u wait b4 u really know its gone.FOREVER??????..:-(((