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Hi all, I asked this question on another thread but everyone ignored me, so I thought I'd put it here and hope for a better response 
Basically I'm wondering what rough percentage of BF users believe in "click and win systems" or methods?
Over the years I've often heard it said that such systems can not exist on Betfair. I have already decided for myself whether they exist or not, but am just curious to hear others views.
By "click and win" I mean a method that simply involves doing the same thing over and over again, with no guessing or trying to predict results.
Basically I'm wondering what rough percentage of BF users believe in "click and win systems" or methods?
Over the years I've often heard it said that such systems can not exist on Betfair. I have already decided for myself whether they exist or not, but am just curious to hear others views.
By "click and win" I mean a method that simply involves doing the same thing over and over again, with no guessing or trying to predict results.
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They do exist IMO
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Thanks for your opinion Tobermory, but I guess it's either a very boring question or one that most people don't want to answer.
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Trevh Joined: 21 Jul 06
Replies: 537 26 Oct 10 15:13 Basically I'm wondering what rough percentage of BF users believe in "click and win systems" or methods? Why?? Over the years I've often heard it said that such systems can not exist on Betfair. I have already decided for myself whether they exist or not, but am just curious to hear others views. Tell us your view first and you might get a few more replies [;)] | ||
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Ignore him Trevh.
Just a typical Rocket response. I suppose you could say that my approach is click and win. Though I'm not totally sure that click and win is the right phrase. Maybe it should be click and hope to win. | ||
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A typical Rocket response
 What do you know about me, FAFH? And what's typical about it? | ||
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Trev, why do you ask ? A simple yes or no is a
meaningless reply so what do you want to know ? | ||
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Yep you're right about one thing Rocket.
I know as much about you as you really know about me. And yet that has never stopped you slagging me off repeatedly, has it ? What I meant though was that you seem to be innately suspicious of people's general motivations in asking perfectly normal, harmless questions. | ||
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I'll do Trev the courtesy of not cluttering his thread.
I'll reply to you in your thread. | ||
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"Basically I'm wondering what rough percentage of BF users believe in "click and win systems" or methods?"
i would guess that only betfair themselves could answer that question Trevh, i for once have no idea | ||
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Don't bother Rocket.
You've cluttered up my thread more than enough. | ||
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Trevh, I believe in a click and win system.
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I believe.
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Still wondering the reason for this thread.
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Does there have to be a clear reason?
Just answer his harmless question and move on. Or do you think, like Rocket, he is working some devious plot to steal all your hard earned secrets ?. | ||
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Thanks for replies, there's no deep reason other than I am curious as to which forum names believe and which don't. Some people believe every bet must be evaluated in its own right, some believe only in perceived value bets, and some believe that there are systems that when followed to a set of rules can return long term profits at non value prices or without evaluating a match/race.
I'm a believer so that's 5-0 so far (including fafh) but I suspect kenilworth is a non believer? | ||
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Kenilworth is a contrarian. End of.
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He's an aquarium.
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Trevh
Hi all, I asked this question on another thread but everyone ignored me, so I thought I'd put it here and hope for a better response Basically I'm wondering what rough percentage of BF users believe in "click and win systems" or methods? Over the years I've often heard it said that such systems can not exist on Betfair. I have already decided for myself whether they exist or not, but am just curious to hear others views. By "click and win" I mean a method that simply involves doing the same thing over and over again, with no guessing or trying to predict results. Is the poster looking for a precise %, i.e. 10%, 20%, 30% etc, or forumites to post saying 'yes I do' or 'no I don't' etc. Tobermory answered the post perfectly IMO. btw, FAFH, I would prefer you respond to other people's posts in the way you expect response to yours, that is politely. You don't always do that. My answer to the question is 'I believe there are, but as to how many think there are, I have no idea' | ||
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It seems to me that FAFH is always looking for a scrap
with someone, and this thread seems no exception. He has posted more than anyone else on this thread and none of his posts have addressed the opening post. Ignoring FAFH, I will address your opening post even if he hasn't. I believe some backers reach their selection by using certain filters before a selection emerges, as to what % do things like that, I have no idea. GL. | ||
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Kenilworth
Forgive me for saying. I think you're woefully wrong in what you're saying about me. First of all in my post at 22.11 I believe I did respond the the OP. Secondly, in what manner was I impolite to you ? If you can clearly show me where I was, I will willingly retract whatever it was I said to you that was so implolite. And remember bad attempts by me at humour are not necessarily impolite. | ||
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Yes. I have IR Laying system.for G/GF Flat Turf.89% SR
Cant wait for next year. | ||
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Some so called 'click and win' systems work whether you believe in them or not.
To paraphrase Niels Bohr. | ||
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FAFH, I didn't think your your post at 22:11
answered the opening post, and your posts at 00:46 and 01:33 rude. Perhaps you are right that I am seeing your poor attempts at being funny as being something else, although I can usually tell the difference between rudeness and humour. Just do me a favour, ignore my future posts and then I won't have the problem of dealing with your testiness and you can concentrate on the subject matter better. | ||
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OK Kenilworth.
I know your history on here is that you find apologizing for your errors as being extremely difficult. So I will accept your last post as being the best you can do, and be content. As far as ignoring all your future posts, it's a big ask, as they are usually full of such interesting content, and it will be extremely difficult to comply, but I will try my damned best. I know. I know. Sarcasm is etc etc. But I'm weak. Have you asked your bete-noir DFC to do the same ? | ||
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I know your history on here is that you find apologizing for your errors as being extremely difficult.
We therefore seem to have the same problem. Try looking in the mirror. | ||
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No I apologize quite frequently in fact.
Btw the OP didn't seem to have any problems with my contributions to this post. Truth be told, I think you were particularly overly aggressive towards him. But it's all water under the bridge. Let's move on and forget it. | ||
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Trev, when using a 'set of rules' to arrive at a
selection, IMO at least one of those filters/rules must be something that others consistently overlook or attach too much significance to, which ever. It's also very important to be 100% objective, that is 'gut feeling, instincts' etc. ignoring matches in which you are emotionally involved with. We always think our team is better than it really is !! GL. | ||
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jesus christ, a simple thread turns into a blood-gushing menstruation festival with some people trying to out do the others as the biggest hormonal b1tch in town!
To answer the original question - I do believe there are some intricate systems out there that can shave 1-8% profits consistently. Such systems rely on time v odds movements. Im currently working on a few things like this that incorporate a 0% profit/loss if, after a certain event has not taken place within a certain timeframe, you are returned your stake. As to 'click and win' style systems, i really have never come across any myself. Feel free to share all the same![;)] | ||
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I'm sure you appreciate that because you have never come
across one doesn't mean they don't exist. |