10% a week......and how it is done!!

good luck
will join in tomorrow, not betting today

I wouldn't join in Stevies, it probably isn't going to work, from what i've read on the Kid's thread.

stevie ud be better going for a run with wedged

ha

By the time i placed the above bet at 2.56pm the odds were 1.29. I have now traded out at 1-0

Fleetwood Town v York City - Over/Under 3.5 Goals  Matched: GBP 5,751   
In-play Going in-play Live Scores Form Stats 

Back & Lay  Market Depth  More options

Selections:  (2) 101.8% Back 
  Lay  98.3%
 
Under 3.5 Goals
» £2.28   

Over 3.5 Goals
» £0.00

Traded again still 1-0 and have now locked in daily target with ease. Late goals would be nice

Fleetwood Town v York City - Over/Under 3.5 Goals  Matched: GBP 6,552   
In-play Going in-play Live Scores Form Stats 

Back & Lay  Market Depth  More options

Selections:  (2) 101.5% Back 
  Lay  98.5%
 


Under 3.5 Goals
» £1.78
 
Over 3.5 Goals
» £9.50

How long you running this 10% a week for please?

Until it has been proven that you can consistantly make 10% a week

Im thinking 20 weeks should be long enough to turn any doubters

so u backed for 20 quid at 1.29.....then u layed at what price for how much?...????????????

backed at 1.29 and laid at 1.17 for £20 leaving me +£2.28 on unders and £0.00 on overs.

then i laid unders @ 1.05 for £10 leaving me +£1.78 on unders and +£9.50 on overs

10% a week isnt difficult who said it is?
good luck anyway but so long as u dont go silly bets  its quite easy, been doing more than that regular

Thought i was going to get the late goals there. 83rd and 88th min goals and the game ended 2-1.

start bank: £100
current bank: £101.78

onward and upwards

Livebetter (and plenty agree with him) said in another thread 10% a week is IMPOSSIBLE over the long run.

I dont see how people find it a problem either.  i could double anyones money in 28 days (4 weeks) so 10% a week is childsplay.

amuses me to think people actually think a small amount like 10% a week is IMPOSSIBLE

10% of £100 is just £1.47 a day and could do it blindfolded

i-only-lay, please answer why we don't all do this (below) if it is so easy? [from the other Kid thread]. Cunningplan, feel free too.


10% a day is "simple"??

A simple £100 start bank at a simple 10% a day for simply 365 days returns a simple £11,666,414,366,485,000.00

I assume you are simply the richest man the world has ever seen?

Ok, so you couldn't get matched...?

But of course you can get matched up to £30k easy on footy matches and horse racing. So I assume you have started with £100 and done a simple 10% a day for simply 86 days to get £30k.

Then you took your £30k and stopped compounding, and just settled for 10% of the £30k each day to give you just under £1.1 million for the year (before commission of course), didn't you?

Didn't you? Because if you didn't you are a little silly to not have made millions aren't you?

thats 10% a day....I said 10% a WEEK

LIVEBETTER said 10% a week was impossible...i know it isnt as i turned £50 into £25,000 in 9 months doubling my bank every 4 weeks


10% a week is childsplay!!

Do you work too IOL?

nope and havent since 2006

Do you still have the 25k bank then?

I did that 3 years ago...i have alot moe than a 25k bank

Grenoble vs le mans (french pish) 7.00pm ko

Bet 2: back under 3.5 goals @ 1.20 (£20)

Well even just 25k @10% per week turns over £2.8 million a year, and if it's so simple why aren't we all millionaires, as asked?

how much u made in the last 3 years?

wedged.......because its only easy to those who know what they are doing. Majority here a fuking cluless like backing man city away at sunderland @ 1.80 just sums up the intelligence here

freddie.....what has my profit the last 3 years got to do with anything...or you?

the point of this thread is to show the numpties that 10% a week is childsplay!!!

i made £1781.23 just in the bolton/birmingham game

ONE GAME!

Hi I Only Lay. Please do not take this the wrong way as it is a comment not a knock.
Why have you started at least 30 different types of laying threads and quit everyone as soon as you have gone into negative territory. I think you have some good ideas and if you are to be believed you obviously make things pay. But what is the point of starting these threads just to let them fade away. I just do not get it. ????

The trouble is, it isn't simple or easy.  Of course, it is possible, just not very likely in my opinion.

You are staking £20 (1/5 of your bank).  An early goal goes in and the trade is in trouble.  Plenty of early goals go in, sometimes goal rushes come, sometimes no goals come.  Often against what all stats/knowledge/run of play suggests.  It's a bit of a lottery in that sense.

So you say to change the bet when you need to.  But you then have to use a similarly large part of your bank, if not more.  Then the score stays the same, or the goals keep coming.  Money is all over the place.

Worst case you lose 2/5 of bank or more.  You might get away with just losing the £20. You might somehow make money, but sooner or later you are going to lose one.

Say you lose the £20 you have staked - when you are winning £1.30 (before commission) a time, that is 15 days of bets undone!

It is hard work. Not "simple".

Like dennis, I am not having a go, just playing devil's advocate.  And a small warning to all the "fuccking clues" types on here, as you put it , that it won't be simple for them.

Good luck with the thread and keep it up for a long time like 20 weeks plus hopefully.

10% a week is childsplay, until you get past about £250 ... then it turns very difficult.

wedged get back to that martin gale thread ffs give me something to read

i-only-lay, to prove u can do it run it for 52 weeks, that should prove that you find it very easy

Wedged Joined: 19 Nov 05
Replies: 3495 30 Aug 10 18:13   


Well even just 25k @10% per week turns over £2.8 million a year, and if it's so simple why aren't we all millionaires, as asked?


10% of £25,000 is £2500 a week,  £2500 x 52 is £130,000 not 2.8mill you crazy horse

i think he means 10% a week as in compound it [;)]

so then you take 10% of 27,500 in the next week and so on

you cant do that as there is only a certain amount of money you can matched.


you can do it up to a point but then you just have to keep it a level 10%

once you get up to £500,000 you are hardly going to get matched for 150k pre k.o and then laid off for 150k in-play

£25,000 bank can make £130,000 profit a year no problems

yeah no problems, no problems at all, that's why we're all getting 25k loans and ending up millionaires in a few years

what planet are you people on?

wow
top trader
i bet on no balls
lay down your bets and exits pre event and we share in your success and call you a jolly decent person.
make the world a better place by making people richer.

What about my 18:27 post? What happens when you lose the £20 and drop 15 days and 1/5 of your bank?

Surely the question everyone reading this should be asking is, if you were making plenty on here month in month out,would you really start a thread trying to convince others it can be done?

Would you fk.

As for i made £1781.23 just in the bolton/birmingham game

ONE GAME!

Well i could show you plenty of four figure payouts i've had on here on one event,but it proves nothing,i'm still in the red.

i-only-lay Joined: 11 Nov 09
Replies: 1768 30 Aug 10 19:24   


£25,000 bank can make £130,000 profit a year no problems


sorry this should read.....

£25,000 bank can make £130,000 profit a year no problems IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING

seeing how 98% of this forum knows nothing then thats why everyone isnt doing it [;)]

so its a case of backing under 3.5 in expected low scoring games and trading or do you have more strings to your bow

By: i-only-lay When: 30 Aug 10 10:43
JUST TRADE OVERS/UNDERS MARKETS

PIECE OF PISS AND I CAN GUARENTEE THE FEW US MAKING OVER £100,000 A YEAR ON HERE ARE TRADING THE GOALS MARKETS.

BUYING MONEY IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING ESPECIALLY IN ITALY AND FRANCE

In your opening paragraph for this thread, you state you turned £ 50 into £ 25,000 in 9 months.

I'm now a bit confused, I-only-lay.

Do you make £ 25k or £ 100k each year?

alot more strings. Incase you havent noticed there really isnt alot to choose from today and who cares what the bets are as long as they win.

In i-only-lay's defence, he did say he turned 50 into 25000 a few years ago and now clears over 100k

so its a case of making much more than 10% to compensate for losing bets.

Roger me thinks your taking the mick. never know so many successful people all in one thread.

have we trading out on the grenoble game yet ,lay 1.1

Hi I only lay. Any chance of a reply to my earlier post. Understand if u do not want to but would be nice if u did. Cheers

10% of £25,000 is £2500 a week,  £2500 x 52 is £130,000 not 2.8mill you crazy horse

im convinced by this guy

whoops.
a goal

£25,000 bank can make £130,000 profit a year no problems IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING

seeing how 98% of this forum knows nothing then thats why everyone isnt doing it
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One thing is for sure. If there is someone here on the forum who does'nt know what he is doing, it's i-only-lay. You're so f...ing stupid that it should not be possible. And it's as obvious as it can be to everybody but yourself

Hi i-only lay, i read your thread at the begining and you said you could turn £50 into £25,000 in 9 month, i believe you so when i get my dole money on friday i will invest £100 on your selections to make £100,000,
at the end of nine month i will give £50,000 to charity and the other £50,000 i was going to give to you for all your eforts in making this poss but you do not need the money so i will give it to a charity of your choice,
so on friday start giving the selection and lets make 2 charitys very happy.

^ ^ the above is a very good suggestion

Lol I-Only_lay you had that failed thread and this will be no different either

IOL you have to be one of the biggest bull****s this forums ever seen.

You come here claiming "Eureka!! I've cracked Betfair" and am making hundreds of thousands [smiley:crazy]
Yet you aren't happy with this alone, you feel the need to start a new thread trying to prove it (lol), with £100 starting bank, winning about £1.50 a day
What a ****.

Worse thing about it is your a proven loser, give it up.

I/O/lAY Do you get called into the Stewards Room Every Wedesday?

since they said about doing this thing for charity he hasnt been seen since interesting?

following this with interest, like the charity idea, im quietly trying 30% a week but wont post until i get a few weeks down the line dont need to prove anything only to myself and if i fail it will be in first couple of weeks

I'm sure these "i've cracked it" threads are just started because the poster has had a good couple of days and really thinks he has cracked it. Like i said earlier, if you were winning consistently on here you wouldn't start a thread like this unless you were a bit of an egomaniac.

have you made your tenner for the week then?

i made £1781.23 just in the bolton/birmingham game

ONE GAME!
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Exatctly. One game! One game is one game and does not matter. I once made around £3200 on one game. But I've also lost large amounts on one game, several times. You lose and you win, all the time. It's what you win in the long run that counts. Everything can happen on one day..

If you don't realize this you have very limited experince as a bettor..

just one question?why are you sharing this info with the masses?if i had a way of making the figures you are talking about i wouldnt want to share the pie!.as you say the liquidity is limited enough and if every one starts following you it will get smaller?..theres no easy way.

Good to see someone showing everyone how it's done, keep up the good work

the OP is a sad dreamer.

Claims he makes £100k a year, but spends nearly two hours on a football match backing and laying to win just over a quid.

There are only two things you can be assured on in this forum.

1. People who claim they are making a fortune, and telling you how to do it, are lying.
2. People who are making actually making a fortune won't tell a soul how they do it

Hello?

Hello?

Hello?

Hello?

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:echo:

je-sus turned water to wine but bank of 25k to 130k is the DEVILS WORK-IMPOSSIBLE--liquidity problem 1k upwards

I have to say, deepwater, I don't agree with that.  I'd say it's not impossible.  However, i-only-lay is clearly a bulls hitter.

wedged...u punting today.....?

are u a layer,,,backer,,,,trader.....just horses...or other sports too?

Hello freddie, Just come in from the gardening. Won't be doing anything today as am off out again soon.

I have 3 banks, where I have a target for 2 of them per day.  Two of them are lay only bank, the days target is broken down into 4 parts and I try to make that in 4 bets (continuing if not).  Once banked, I complete the next lay bank target.  All compounded.

I then move on to the 3rd bank where I then make my wages.  This is a mix of backing, laying, but mainly trading.  I only do the horses.  This bank is the one that I withdraw from.

I occasionally play the footy on the Prem, but that is only fun and I don't have as good results there.

I'm no horse expert, it's just that my methods and systems suit the faster pace of the horses markets.

And you?

i just lay horsessss
i took mondays and tuesdays off during the summer as only 2 meetings in afternoon...back to 7 days a week now
my email is freddiewilliams
@
operamail
.com

any advice......more details on your bank system....any  other systems.....compounding advice, etc,etc,etc....very much appreciated

freddie STILL looking for systems

i thought you are at this fulltime why do you need new systems? surely if your on here so much u already are making enough to do you?

i collect systems like u collect stamps stevie....what uni u going to and when u off on this new journey there?

freddie, what size is your bank? (if I may ask) The size of the bank can often determine what systems are suitable etc.

Hello Stevies, man, you have a lot of posts to your name! [;)]
What's the bets for Man U tonight fella?

Wedged - your 15.56 effort ranks highly in the most intriguing
posts on the form ever. You may be minted (or not) but sweet
J***s what a post that was.

It was full of sweet nothings. Probably a bit like his garden.

wedged i just seen your post
erm i think man utd may draw 0-0 tonight.. not too sure? [;)]

yes alot of posts but ahwell haha

freddie since when do i collect stamps?

im running with a 3k bank at the moment wedged


comeon stevie...what uni u going too?

anything interesting u can email me wedged?

you lot may know ..only lay,  from old ,
so he might be as you all suspect ...
i must agree if your making a mint..its very unlikely you feel the need to share !
i agree with wedge entirely about betting large % of bank on single bet ..sure way to empty bank !

having said all of that , i think its very possible to increase your bank 10% per week !
personally i never bet more than 5% of my bank on a bet ,
always happy to trade out for 10% profit,
which normally means for me a need 10 bets a week to match that target

Is it better for people to do these percentages daily or weekly im fairly new to this game and at the moment im laying and im taking 2% of my bank per day i play the horses and to be honest i havent come unstuck yet but its only a matter of time ill keep my disapline but i just wondered if the way im going about things is dangerous as im playing for 14% of my bany per week. Thank you

i would say daily is ok ..as there are horse races everyday ,
i do weeky ..one you have to allow you arent going to win everytime , also i bet on sports that arnt on everyday ,
if you are winning its always tempting to bet bigger ,
the amount of times i have won say 8 times or so small ,
to be wiped out by one short price cert..lol..lumping on ,
if you avoid big losses , lots of small gains ...
soon builds up ..and you are learning as you go ,

In your experence how do you accept a losing day the reason i ask is because ive seen friends of mine in a shop chasing there loses and i really want to avoid that

i look at it like graph ...
take the stock market ....you may exspect your stocks to go up long term ,
but being realistic ..nobody would exspect it to go up and up everyday !
it will go up and down ,,lets hope there are more ups than downs ,
limit the size of the down by a max limit bet too ,
sometimes i chase and double up at a much better price..hoping to trade out at a profit if they draw level , ...cant do that in shops !..but mostly i m happy if im in profit...and trade out ,
you will find your own way , ...but if you only want to pick winners ..it will be very tough ,
i would say almost impossible to do well long term , ,
if you are just staring off ..you are bound to make mistakes ..so let them be little ones ..many its not aprob ..learn a way best for you to profit ,
if you spent a day reading all the threads here on general betting ..you will pick some ideas up

Good to see you're still offering your wisdom, wit and winning mentality to the forum. You have to be commended because so many idiots come on here spouting they've cracked it and are making so much they don't know what to do with it only to disappear in a cloud of bu ll sh it, well done.

Chortle [:D]

Another one who no longer shows their face on this forum whilst this thread is near the top.

Imagine, you are claiming to make £130,000 per year EASY and you pizz about with £50 bank threads.

what happened to i only lay

am i right in thinking that the person who started this thread is a c0ck?

profit is possible on betfair.  But it comes down to the individual to not deviate from what they know in order to make a continuous profit.  In this day and age of 'click and bet', it is easy to stray from what you know. 

In the past 30 days, any losses I had were:
a) due to a mistake
b) bending my own 'rules of engagement'
c) not doing the research or taking on a sport where my strike-rate is weak.
d) pushing the stake (no, not chasing.  Just pushing the risk).

Examples:
a) My spreadsheet reading the horses had a different order to that on the platform.  I laid the wrong horse in-running.

b) Last week at evening racing at Kempton, I laid a horse in a race that historically I had a return of -40% ROI over a long period.  As well, the type of horses were rated from naught so was a donkey race.  Horse won at 4/1.

c) I took on U.S. Racing the past month because of my schedule.  Was doing okay with small stakes then got lazy and played a race without digging as deep as I normally do.  This was combined with (d) when I was trading to reduce the risk only to get caught out on momentum and rather than red out, I 'let it ride'.

Prior to that and since that (including three days off to chill), I made a steady profit through proper research and playing two (repeat two) markets only:  UK HORSES and NHL HOCKEY.

I did not win every bet but made a steady profit through backs, lays, trading and trading to reduce risk.

With 3 meetings a day, I don't need to play every race.  I usually choose the two tracks I have a better strike rates at then will 'glance' at the third track if there is a type of race that I usually do well at. 

There is always another horse race so no harm in skipping one or two.  Enjoy the cup of tea away from the screen.  It will clear your brain.

With a PC in front of us, we have more information than most to make decisions.  Yet we'll 'cut corners'.  Any losing plays I had in the past 30 days were because of that. 

The vision is clear if you want it to be.

Good luck to all in 2011.

good post, shape.

I THINK HE DISSAPEARED ,BECAUSE HE THOUGHT YOU LOT DIDNT DESERVE HIS ADVICE ,THE WAY ALOT OF YOU WERE TREATING HIM,IF HEWAS SENSATIVE LIKE ME ,YOU WOULD HAVE UPSET HIM

turned £50 into £25,000 in 9 month

Course he did

hello?

liars

nice post SHAPE  [;)]

Dosen't matter how good your system is if you lose it all because the site goes down and you can't lay it off.

isnt it high time you changed your user name?

funlovingexpress, I have been caught out on the site crashing as well.  I, fortunately, have not lost my whole bank. 

But I do monitor the site carefully now.  The tell-tale sign are sometimes there and best just to take the day off rather than fight the stream.  And that goes for if your broadband supplier is having a rough day (sometimes simply turning off your router for ten minutes can reassign your access to the net).

As well, if you are exposing your whole bank, then that's a mindset you have to look at.  If you are going to take that route, make sure you have the funding to cover yourself through a bookie (since laying off simply means placing bets on other outcomes).

This wasn't to defend betfair but the fact remains that technology on all levels, simple or complex, is not flawless and contingencies have to be there.