if you had a bank of 10k...

Value  is in  your  mind  .. us  bookies   pay  out  on  results .

Why bother with prices then?

zipper, you've been administered too much medication  please return to the nurse

Catfloppo   punters   look  at  prices  they  have no  ideas  of there  own ..  say  the  daily  paper  says   micky  mouse    in  the  2.30  at  Dream Land   is   4/5  fav .... well its  a  cert .

Well  zip  has  a  different   view    i  price  up  each  race   on  merit   dont take any  notice  about   the   press  gang  .

And  i  have  been  at  this  game  the  last  50 years   


Heres  my   CV.  my dad  was  a  gambler    my  mum   married  a  gambler ..  so  i did  not  have  much  choice   zips   follows   family   tradition    I  have  no  regets

buzzer.. you  are  a  .....    and  not  worth  an   answer      dont  come  on  my  thread   again  ....  thank  you

I didn't realise this was YOUR thread and you're as thick as pigshi t if you think prices don't matter! A bookie who doesn't understand overround is unheard of. You spout some rubbish on here and expect people to listen to it!

this could have been a good thread but seen that ego zipper joined, another tosspot

Don't get bogged down with the word 'value', the point is that you need to be able to spot horses which are overpriced over a period of time, not on an individual race. If you are able to do this you will have an edge. Your profit/loss column will tell you whether you have this edge. Commission makes it alot harder than people realize to make this edge pay.

Buzzer  a  bookie  who  dont  understand  over rounds   Well  Son  if   your  a  gambling  bookie  like  my  dad    and  myself   over  rounds  mean   nowt  .. The  Late  Great    John Banks   would not  know  what  you  are  talking  about   over rounds  are  for   public owned   companies    .. 3  spring  to mind  ...Laddies , Billy  Hills ,  And  Joe  Coral   have  say   a  winning  run   with  any  of  em  ... they  close  your  account    .. over  round  or  not    so  stick  your   over  rounds  up  your   backside .. hope  thats   clear.

dlarssonf  what  that means  ive no  idea   and   Buzzer .  now  this   nonsense   about    over rounds .. take  this  onboard    there  are  layers  on  here  (Betfair )  who  will  stand  a  horse  for  say  10k   or   20k  to  lose    and  nowt  else in the  book .. tell  them  about  over rounds .

You still need value bets to make a consistent long term profit.

gambler versus gambler
gambler 1 bets horse at 3-1 (horse wins)
gambler 2 bets same horse at 2-1
gambler 1 bets horse at 2-1 (horse loses)
gambler 2 bets same horse at 13-8
gambler 1 bets horse at 5-4 (horse loses)
gambler 2 bets same horse at 8-11

all to level stakes

catfloppo Joined: 16 Nov 06
Replies: 487 19 Aug 10 18:47   


You still need value bets to make a consistent long term profit.

The voice of reason.

ffs i dont even like horse racing

Take  Me  Out   you  dont  even  like  horse  racing   why start  a   conversation  you dont  like  and its  patently clear you  know  nothing  about    beats   me

i didnt start this thread about horse racing

Well son   this  is  a  horse  racing  forum   . take   your  nonsense   some  were  else   thats  my  advice  and  its   free  .

since when has this been the horse racing forum old man?

With a largish bank making money on football is fairly easy providing you know which prices are right and which are wrong.If you get that correct the result can be an irrelevance.

That deserves a big

zipper     19 Aug 10 15:56 
This  nonsense  about  VALUE   is  just  that  Nonsense .. the  ONLY  value  is  the  winner ..  eg  one you got  8/1  a  horse    who  started   6/4 fav .. so  you got  the  value    . but  but   the nag  ran last .. take your  ticket  up to your  bookie   and  he will  say   .... sorry  son  that  was  a  loser .get  the  drift

Finally......a bit mad, but a voice of reason...

Value is subjective.

No Name Specified     20 Aug 10 14:35 
zipper     19 Aug 10 15:56 
This  nonsense  about  VALUE   is  just  that  Nonsense .. the  ONLY  value  is  the  winner ..  eg  one you got  8/1  a  horse    who  started   6/4 fav .. so  you got  the  value    . but  but   the nag  ran last .. take your  ticket  up to your  bookie   and  he will  say   .... sorry  son  that  was  a  loser .get  the  drift

Finally......a bit mad, but a voice of reason...

Value is subjective.

If I back the same 100 horses with a BFSP of 5.0 as you and zipper, using identical stakes. I back them at 6.0 you guys who don't care about value back them at 5.0, who will be the biggest winner?

Value is subjective alright.

What does Jimmy? I meant to say pre kick off regarding prices.

Muqbil     Joined: 18 May 03
Replies: 1961 20 Aug 10 14:53 
If I back the same 100 horses with a BFSP of 5.0 as you and zipper, using identical stakes. I back them at 6.0 you guys who don't care about value back them at 5.0, who will be the biggest winner?

Value is subjective alright.

if they lose? Price is irrelvant.
i don't think anyone's talking about who is a bigger winner, are we?  its about making a profit.

No Name Specified     20 Aug 10 15:05 

if they lose? Price is irrelvant.
i don't think anyone's talking about who is a bigger winner, are we?  its about making a profit.

roffle.

Muqbil     20 Aug 10 15:21 
roffle

a well thought out retort and reasoned argument.....
one that has made me realise the error of my thinking.

ok  you  guys    please  please  one  at  a  time   now  settle down

Zips   take  on  value  is  this   take    Wootton Bassett  yesterday   every  bookie  in  the  land   made  this  a   5/2  or  11/4  shot  at    1.20 pm   the  horse  was   very   backed   at  5/4  it won like a  cert  you value men  would  not  be  on   cause  theres no  value   zip was on  cause  my  take on  value  the  only  value  is  the  winner

Mugbil   If  i back the  same  horses  as  zipper.
Let  me  stop  you  there  son    IF  IF   is all encompassing.
Take for instance .... If my granny had testicles she would have been my Grandad  .. need  i  go  on

Think this mug Zipper has got the wrong part of the forum this is General Chat nog bugger of to Horse Racing part, oh thats right they hate you on there and its not your thread you moron its Take Me Outs

Backing Zippers lays = Poorhouse! (and this is zippers thread cos he said so)!

NM1 It looks like you've been on here a full 6 days.So you may have a lot to learn about us old timers. I joined 2002.

This  MMI  most  be  some  gob  he  joined     6  days  ago  and  he  has  had   766  replies..

Does'nt mean he is wrong though, does it?

Shiraz  .. grow up   hes  wet  behind  the  ears

MM1, formaly known as hornets,also formally known as horsham fc,not the worst of em but daft as a brush!

zipper  is  available for the next 40 minutes to take any abuse or serious questions. At 7.30 i.m taking my lovely wife to our favourite restaurant.

Times  up .   good  night  god  bless

Value lies in the thoughts of us. Sometimes a 1-3 shot is value it's about opinions. I rarely bet under 3-1 but yesterday thought Wooton Basset was good value 15-8. Tues thought Twice Over was value at 11-2 only 2 horse bets this week. I find it harder on footy but regularly bet on Rugby and having a poor run at present

No Name Specified
Joined: 16 Feb 10

Value is subjective.

If I say my purple trousers are lovely that is subjective. Others may disagree and no-one's opinion is dominant.

If I say Man Utd are 100/1 to win the premiership next year I would be objectively wrong.  If I said they were 1.01 to win I would be wrong again.  The fact that is very very hard to identify the exact point in between 1.01 and 100 that represents the true odds of them winning does not make it a subjective assessment.

Scooby

Value is not subjective, but it is very difficult to pinpoint - so we need margings of error to work within if we are to profit from any meaningful analysis. If value had no meaning at all we would all willingly bet 1.01 on anything that we thought would win an event. In truth, value is everything to a punter, whether they actively look for it or not. Ask yourself, where would you be if you backed/layed at half the odds or twice the odds? The biggest mistake a punter can make is to think they have to find the most likely winner of an event. Wise advice whoever gave me that nugget.

The biggest mistake a punter can make is to think they have to find the most likely winner of an event.
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A "punter" does not know where the likely winner of horse race will come from ...generally speaking!

Surely REM if you CAN identify where the winner is likely to come from, then you have a huge advantage compared to those who are only guessing.

I think you are talking from LAYING perspective......as it is NOT a big mistake to check out the odds of thoses that MIGHT win IF YOU ARE A BACKER.

VALUE lies more from a BACKING perspective than a LAYING one.......eg 100-1 SP winner compared to an evens money loser is quite a differnce in return on "investment" etc.

i started at the beginning of this year with a bank of 2k - and am now up to 12.5k I dont leave bets hanging out there tho and I aim to greenbook most of the time. and i generally only bet on games / matches where i can watch live (or a least a live scoreboard on the net somewhere), and I dont mind taking a pounce at the last minute on a short odds favorite - but still - like "dont stop winning" said - i only use a 2% of my bank per bet - its all about money management

DFCIRONMAN Joined: 04 Dec 04

Surely REM if you CAN identify where the winner is likely to come from, then you have a huge advantage compared to those who are only guessing.

The winner can come from anywhere it's how likely each of the runners are to win that is the key.  If a 500/1 shot is priced at 600/1 it is worth backing.

Disagree that a winner of a horse race can come from any of them generally! This is nonsense.

You don't back a horse just because the odds are higher than you think they should be.....that is flawed thinking IMO.

There have to be factors in favour of a horse that give it a winning chance in a race....such as when both 100-1 SP shots won the other day......

Nonsense, any horse can win in any field. You are confusing impossible with unlikely.

A 100/1 shot will win, on average, one in every hundred events - that's what it means.  A 1000/1 shot will win, on average, one in every thousand events.

Did you back either or both of ywo 100-1 SP shots that won recently?

If not ....why not?

Just because I know that a 100/1 shot will win sometimes does not mean I can tell when it is going to happen.  I would only have backed those horses if I thought the odds offered were higher than the true chance of them winning.

"When it is going to happen" is the key........if you can identify horses that do have a chance to win....realistic chance to win...then generally 100-1 shots will be "value" to back.

The FACTORS must be in their favour though.......and you presumably ....if you saw these factors in favour of a horse winning would FIRST HAVE TO SEE THOSE FACTORS BEFORE YOU CAN DETERMINE "the odds offered were higher than the true chance of them winning".


The FIRST stage comes before you betting on them.......if they don't have factors in favour ....you should not back em .......


So i still disagree that "that a winner of a horse race can come from any of them generally!" This is just pure nonsense GENERALLY!

catfloppo Joined: 16 Nov 06
Replies: 501 22 Aug 10 13:44   


Nonsense, any horse can win in any field. You are confusing impossible with unlikely.

A 100/1 shot will win, on average, one in every hundred events - that's what it means.  A 1000/1 shot will win, on average, one in every thousand events.
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The FACTS are -

Results broken down by Year
Bets Wins Win Strike Rate Win %Return at SP Placed (inc wins) Place Strike Rate Each-Way %Return at SP
2008 3177 5 0.2% 15.9% 59 1.9% 28.3%
2009 3079 7 0.2% 23.0% 82 2.7% 40.4%
2010 1696 8 0.5% 47.6% 35 2.1% 46.5%


Nothing like 1 race in 100 etc etc............

DFc   when  is it  going  to  happen   is  the  key   nobody can   dispute  that      this    newton abbot   the  fav   Otage De  Baron   will get  beat  in the  next  10  mins

DFC, catfloppo is right.  And you have kind of just proven it.  You are correct, nothing like 1 in a 100 races, hence catfloppo is saying that obviously those horses were incorrectly priced and had we bet on them we would not be getting our moneys worth over time.

Cat is saying that if we knew a horse was 200/1 but true odds of 100/1 then you keep backing those odds and over time you are in profit.

1000/1 SPs have won, a couple quite recently - so there you have it, Cats "any horse can win in any field. You are confusing impossible with unlikely." statement is true.


The fact is though that we don't back the 600/1 over priced horse because A) I'm not sure anyone really ever knows true odds and B) we don't like to bet like that, over a long period of time for little return and dont get our 'fix' :)

Having said that, cats theory/statements are right.

No one can say when it is going to happen.  You can just try and get value.  The factors you are taking about may mean you can get value if others have not taken them into account.

DFC   lets have  a bit  of  fun   3?  for  you   
1  name me  any  Pro  punter  who  bothered  about  value .
2  name  the  last  1000/1  shot  to win  l will give you  any  event . 3  name  this  year  Ledger  2010 winner ..

Horse Racing > Bang 20th Aug : 2m4f Mdn Hrd Showing 1 - 6 of 6 Selections

Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Butlers Glen * 5.39 42.00 Lay   42.00
Himayna  17.50 3.00 Back 20-Aug-10 13:45  -3.00
Miss Franklin  315.85 2.00 Back 20-Aug-10 13:46  629.70
Miss Franklin  3.00 100.00 Lay 20-Aug-10 13:57  -200.00
Nouailhas  220.00 2.00 Back 20-Aug-10 13:46  -2.00
Pinerock  2.90 15.00 Back 20-Aug-10 13:45  -15.00
*Average odds: On  Off  Back subtotal: 609.70
Lay subtotal: -158.00
Market subtotal: 451.70
Commission @ 3.2%: 14.45
Net Market Total: 437.25
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Borderlescott  12.00 2.00 Back 20-Aug-10 15:15  -2.00
Equiano  4.90 6.00 Back 20-Aug-10 15:21  -6.00
Kingsgate Native  6.60 15.00 Lay 20-Aug-10 15:21  15.00
Prime Defender  55.00 2.00 Back 20-Aug-10 15:15  -2.00
Rose Blossom  23.00 2.00 Back 20-Aug-10 15:15  -2.00
Sole Power  152.30 2.00 Back 20-Aug-10 15:20  302.60
Starspangledbanner  2.60 9.00 Back 20-Aug-10 15:25  -9.00
*Average odds: On  Off  Back subtotal: 281.60
Lay subtotal: 15.00
Market subtotal: 296.60
Commission @ 3.2%: 9.49
Net Market Total: 287.11
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Are you sure NO ONE CAN SAY WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ?

DFC, I agree with Catfloppo. Would you have backed Sole Power at 4/1?

DFC  When is  it  going to  happen   zip  thinks  this  will  happen  in the  next  40 mins  Mussle  3.50  misscomplacent .
Folkestone  4.10  Cocohatchee 
Newton  Abbot  4.30  Marufo 
All  three  will  get  beat .

3.50 is a WIDE OPEN race and "anything" can win that specific race. A dodgy lay ...but I've layed Reel Amber...soon see

Also backed winner....( 1 of 3 backed as mostly likely from where winner came from including MISS COMPLACENT!)

You FIRST identify horses that CAN win a race........and I back them with small stakes initially ...WITHOUT LOOKING AT ODDS........This helps me decide IF I am gonna lay one ....just in case I inadvertently lay a horse that can win....


So Homer Jay Simspon ....I suppose in my case the answer is YES....but only due to the method i apply on betting on a race.

zipper Joined: 06 Jul 02
Replies: 1941 22 Aug 10 15:26   


DFC   lets have  a bit  of  fun   3?  for  you   
1  name me  any  Pro  punter  who  bothered  about  value .
2  name  the  last  1000/1  shot  to win  l will give you  any  event .
3  name  this  year  Ledger  2010 winner ..
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1. I don't "know" any ....and it is not relevant to topic.
2. No idea .....I don't BACK IR generally........so really not relevant , as i BACK and LAY PRIOR to off and that is all that interests me.
3. Will depend on going ....and will just have to wait before that is clear ..............obviously!

4.10 race ...no bet ...but would not lay the one you have zip...may lose ...may win...

Welsh Inlet looks more of a lay than back....BUT NOT LAYING IN THIS RACE

Some small backs to pass the time


GB / Folk 22nd Aug / 16:10 5f Mdn  Soviet Suspect Back  22-Aug-10
16:09    34 2.00  34.63 22-Aug-10 16:09   

GB / Folk 22nd Aug / 16:10 5f Mdn  Whitstable Native Back   22-Aug-10
16:08    9.6 2.00  9.62 22-Aug-10 16:08   

GB / Folk 22nd Aug / 16:10 5f Mdn Silver Angel Back   22-Aug-10
16:08    13.5 3.00  12.99 22-Aug-10 16:08 APPEARS TO BE THE VALUE ONE

Homer, Cat,  And  DFC .  when  racing  is  over  today   lets  have  a  chat  about   value .  rules  are   no  swearing   no  falling out  .. remember  its  all  about    ideas .

Unlucky zip ...might get thrown out!

4.30 ...again would not lay your one zip ...as it can win....

BACKED as maib bet Orchard King ew

and BACKED SKIPPER'S LAD win only

small LAY on Le Forezien

DFC  thrown out  hope  not  zipp  a  spotsman   no way  do i like  to win  like  that

christ what happened to my thread

Have chickened out the LAY bet on Le FOR.....as well up and don't want to ruin a good day etc

smaller lay on Good Harvest
  7  £9.00  £63.00 £54.00

DFC  4.30  Marufo  ( your  words   zip  i  wopuld  not  lay   your  pick   cause  itcan  win )    Sure  its can  win   but  zips  got  at  least  four  who can  beat  it  ....hows  that  for  value

Buggggggerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ..RAT ....still in profit but reduced AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

MCCOY is a demon

Take me out I did tell you that Zipper and his ego would take over the thread.  Spouts non stop rubbish

You would only break eveish on 3 lays though zip........

evenish even

Sorry zip ...just seen your post ...it rightly was thrown out IMO ...wd zip[:D]

Sorry TAKE ME OUT .......got side tracked...............

Appears to have dried up on posts really...GL with bets.

DFC ,  zip  dont  want  to  wind  you  up   cause  its   Sunday but   you  started   this  value   bit .  Sunday  is  peace  on earth to  all  men  and  there  familes .

Take  Me  Out  . did  or  did  you not  say    i  have  no  interested  in  horse  racing ... thats  what  happend .. now   talk  horses   or   leave   us  guys  alone

Take  Me  Out .... Why  not  start  another  thread  under   ONCE UPON  A  TIME  .....   the  snow  fairy  will  have  plenty  to  say

TAKE ME OUT Joined: 13 Feb 10
Replies: 8118 18 Aug 10 16:27   


how much do you realistically think you could win a day/week?

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What someone else does is not really relevant to how much you can make ...or keep.....

All depends what sport and what markets you bet on ...so as i believe it is FOOTBALL markets you are interested in.....and it is more "luck" based, would believe it wuld be dangerous tp compare someone else's performance against yours....

if i wanted to talk about horse racing i would go to the horse racing forum

DFCIRONMAN,
You knew a horse was going to win at odds of 150/1 and you staked £2??

I did not "KNOW" it would win...I knew it could win.....and my staking is low anyway....

This fav at MUSSELBURGH could well lose this race...so I have layed it small and backed a few

OK  this  looks  like   the  DFC  man   and  Zipper  show       yes  zipper   is   a  girl .  Been  on   here  saying  zips  an  old  man  call   the   nurse . any  how  deal  with  it   any of you  guys want  to  talk  sense  about    gambling   post  it

Any of them can win DFCIRONMAN, that is the point.

Horse Racing: £148.82   

 

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 21 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Muss 22nd Aug : 1m Hcap 22-Aug-10 17:20  22-Aug-10 17:25  11.62
Horse Racing / Folk 22nd Aug : 1m4f Hcap 22-Aug-10 17:10  22-Aug-10 17:16  20.28
Horse Racing / Newt 22nd Aug : 2m1f NHF 22-Aug-10 17:00  22-Aug-10 17:08  36.01
Horse Racing / Muss 22nd Aug : 1m4f Hcap 22-Aug-10 16:50  22-Aug-10 16:57  24.39
Horse Racing / Folk 22nd Aug : 1m1f Hcap 22-Aug-10 16:40  22-Aug-10 16:45  -6.00
Horse Racing / Newt 22nd Aug : To Be Placed 22-Aug-10 16:30  22-Aug-10 16:44  -7.00
Horse Racing / Newt 22nd Aug : 3m2f Hcap Chs 22-Aug-10 16:30  22-Aug-10 16:42  -84.60
Horse Racing / Folk 22nd Aug : 5f Mdn 22-Aug-10 16:10  22-Aug-10 16:21  -7.00
Horse Racing / Folk (RFC) 22nd Aug : Reverse FC 22-Aug-10 16:10  22-Aug-10 16:21  -4.00
Horse Racing / Newt 22nd Aug : 2m6f Hcap Hrd 22-Aug-10 16:00  22-Aug-10 16:11  21.12
Horse Racing / Muss 22nd Aug : 5f Sell Stks 22-Aug-10 15:50  22-Aug-10 15:55  27.10
Horse Racing / Folk 22nd Aug : 6f Hcap 22-Aug-10 15:40  22-Aug-10 15:47  0.00
Horse Racing / Newt 22nd Aug : 2m6f Hcap Hrd 22-Aug-10 15:30  22-Aug-10 15:44  18.39
Horse Racing / Muss 22nd Aug : 1m6f Hcap 22-Aug-10 15:20  22-Aug-10 15:27  51.69
Horse Racing / Folk 22nd Aug : 7f Hcap 22-Aug-10 15:10  22-Aug-10 15:17  24.20
Horse Racing / Newt 22nd Aug : 2m5f Nov Chs 22-Aug-10 15:00  22-Aug-10 15:08  24.20
Horse Racing / Newt (F/C) 22nd Aug : Forecast 22-Aug-10 15:00  22-Aug-10 15:08  -4.00
Horse Racing / Folk 22nd Aug : 7f Sell Stks 22-Aug-10 14:40  22-Aug-10 14:48  -12.00
Horse Racing / Newt 22nd Aug : 2m1f Mdn Hrd 22-Aug-10 14:30  22-Aug-10 14:38  2.90
Horse Racing / Muss 22nd Aug : 1m Hcap 22-Aug-10 14:20  22-Aug-10 14:24  -3.00
Horse Racing / Newt 22nd Aug : 2m3f Nov Hrd 22-Aug-10 14:00  22-Aug-10 14:08  14.52
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Just SMALL STAKES used ...and a profit of over 100 made ....but that is spending afternoon doing bets etc......So a large bank is not needed to make a profit ....but it does help psychologically to have a large bank.

149 nice pay for 3 1/2 hrs work any 1 would take that 5 days a week thats for sure

Take  Me  Out   watch  and  learn   zip  has  never  posted  on  the  horse  race   forum  and  never  will.. the  smart  guys  are  on  general  betting

TMO please dont be clogging up Zippers thread with your shyte!

Scooby  Thats  a  bit  harsh .  remember  this  is  the  Land   of  Free  speach..God  Save  The   Queen

Just practising

Year	Bets	Wins	Win Strike Rate	Win %Retn at SP	Placed	Plc Strike Rate	Each-Way %Return at SP
2008	3177	5	0.2%	15.9%	59	1.9%	28.3%
2009	3079	7	0.2%	23.0%	82	2.7%	40.4%
2010	1696	8	0.5%	47.6%	35	2.1%	46.5%

Did I just open a can of worms...

OK - it's late so no time for an essay, but the point I made was exactly that it is all a question of trying to quantify how likely a particular outcome is. We all know Man U are a better football team than Fulham, but knowing that is not enough.  We need to know what happens if the game is played a thousand times (and the answer is not that Man U will win a thousand times because they are the better team)?

Horse racing is an entirely different beast. The market has always been nearer the true odds at the shorter end of the market and further away at the more fanciful end. In a conventional sense big priced outsiders do represent value, but the fact that they are outsiders is also often an indicator that all is not well. If the market speaks I listen to it.

TakeMO
I firmly believe you can consistently turn over a decent wage. The 1% per day sounds about right.
But we all know it isn't about making money, it's about holding on to it. It takes a lot of practice to take a pounding and not steam you're bank into oblivion.
Gamblers don't lose their bankroll by losing bets, they lose their bankroll by continuosly making STUPID bets. (usually after a large loss or when you're drunk or stoned.)
You're obviously switched on and i presume you've had the experience of chasing and making a complete cnt of yourself and waking up the next day feeling worse.(i know i have) Well how would you feel if you blew 10K? If you feel confident enough not to make this mistake, i reckon you could have a go. But bail out if you blow 50% and take a week to breath.
By the way, i always like having my opinions questioned so i can evaluate my carry on. It's called learning. Thats why you started this thread. but as usual the fkn numpties arrived. Zipper was giving sound advice. And sound advice and opinions from a dude that has managed to play this game for 5 decades deserves respect. I am a value man too but he gave me a lot of food for thought. Its a pity the TOOLS ruined you're thread.

Between £500-£1000 easily.

Is per day or week?

Either answer you give will be wrong btw

*that