ANY SYSTEMS OUT THERE THAT WWORK

Sorry but couldn't help when I read this one.

greenviking 31 Jul 10 18:08

The favourite WILL WIN 1 race every meeting.The favourite WILL NOT win every race at a meeting.

I think you're being a bit too pessimistic page-413. For instance, something as simple as laying 0-0 draws at half time throws up some interesting long term consistancy, but not in the way most punters seem to think :)

The c/s markets offer a minefield of opportunities, but obviously that opportunity is only there for those who work hard and don't expect it on a plate (I'm not inferring you don't work hard) :)

your thick fullstop arbing wins

its called the math dick head

I believe your comments speak for themselves, iprefertolay :)

top2rated Joined: 28 Feb 04
Replies: 851 31 Jul 10 20:42 
Sorry but couldn't help Laugh when I read this one.

greenviking 31 Jul 10 18:08

The favourite WILL WIN 1 race every meeting.The favourite WILL NOT win every race at a meeting.

Top2rated twas merely in jest.

How many Favs won at Newbury today please ?

Firstly greenviking should never bet hes a fool.Fav always wins once at a meeting!! what a joke buy a newspaper greenviking.
Secondly I aint selling my system it works for me traders use on Betfair and on all stockmarkets througout the world.
Most of you need to learn like I have done over eight years ,there are books out there , read them.
Yes I have had some accounts closed with bookmakers because my accounts were not economical for them!! they dont like winners.
They want mug punters like greenviking, cant blame em lol.

Iprefer to lay.My original post on this thread wasnt serious ffs.The last sentence of it was now fill your boots clown.Does that not tell you I was joking?If not your thick as 2 short planks

Iprefertoday has a strange way of posting on the forum. On this particular thread he seems to have unearthed a mysterious way of producing profit out of gambling, he announces that his secret will never be revealed to another living sole.

All this seems a little bizarre though, because if you look at one of the other threads on this forum located very close to this paticular thread; he announces that he makes his profit from arbittraging. Eureka, I think I may have located a clue to his secret stategy, aren't I clever?

As said above, his comments speak for themselves :)

iprefertolay Joined: 16 Sep 02
Replies: 14 17 Jul 10 00:51   
Forget the dogs horse racing its fixed.Forget one armed bandits thet arnt called bandits for nothing,You aint gonna win the lottery odds against Tip read books on Arbitrage. Eieght years trading yes ive maid a few mistakes. But I win and so should you comments please. 


Maybe reading books on how to spell would prove useful.

LOL

greenviking jumps on board my ship how many more?

yes no moves its called arbitrage trading aint rocket science learn it.

Iprefertolay you stated last night that this special theory wasn't for sale at any price, now you've just let the cat out of the bag.  As you an arbitrager does this mean you have to back every outcome? Yesterday you had a secret and today you've got to tell me wht it is.

Here's a system that works:
Open accounts with various bookies with free bet offers for new customers. Take advantage of them by using a betting exchange to lock in a guaranteed profit.

The only risks are :

1)bookie going out of business or refusing to pay you (very rare)
2)human error

Fairly straightforward to make a few thousand over a few months.
You can do it with just a few tenners, but the more cash you have to start with, the less time you need to spend to make money, as you can a do a bunch of offers simultaneously. There are people who have made tens of thousands doing just this on a part time basis. I found it pretty tedious, but it's the easiest way to build up a decent bank.

The bookies will keep giving you offers over time giving you a small stream of continued income. I still get emails saying 'hey we haven't seen you for a while, we have deposited £10 on your account etc."

This is a very formulaic way of making money. You follow a set procedure, and don't need to apply any creativity. It is useful to get to grips with odds and how they relate to each other. It's a good way to learn about betting, if you have been unable to profit so far.

When I started doing these free bets, I was already making a decent amount on Betfair, which is why I didn't pursue it further.

That's very good

dukeofpuke

there is a free one i am doing at the moment and to £10 stakes its about £2k up

it was posted on the horse racing forum a few weeks ago and it picks handicap flat horses turf only but only these months july august september


Whats the system please?

http://www.ibgaming.co.uk/

IR.Laying,slow pics.etc.etc.

Last 11 Days 172/189...91% SR..All 8/1 or Less.

Somethings working fine.

you keep backing the fav until you get a winner,but you need so much money to prepare for the bad run that you wouldnt need to gamble anyway,you would need to find a bookie who would take the huge bets that you need to put on in a bad run and you would also need balls so big that they would make buster gonad blush,if you have all that you cant lose.

i think the record for losing savourites is something like 86 on the trot so betting to 1 pence  your 20th bet would be £10485.76 if you double up

savourites =favourites

building society

isa-tax free

best yet

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or

bet for fun not ruin

Just remember that

1) nothing is risk free.
2) The value of fiat currency tends to move toward zero.

http://www.financialsensearchive.com/
editorials/saxena/2006/0421.html

"Today people who hold cash equivalents feel comfortable. They shouldn't. They have opted for a terrible long-term asset, one that pays virtually nothing and is certain to depreciate in value."

Warren Buffet

Thanks top2rated

You're welcome.

Investor post 2.35 I totally agree ive been there done it your wise.

No moves there are two bets to if you wish to arb a back and a lay some or more complex.

There are books out there listen to winners I prefertolay and Investor.

I cant stop humans making human error I dont

I also have ISA tax free quiet rightly corporate bonds, fixed interest trust, 12 cards debit,account on betfair, if I ring a bookie the price changes when my phone goes down.
I have a 20k traker fund following the FTSE.
Accounts with nat west, santander,nationwide,yorkshire bs,A &l,etc.
I have my personal advisor comes to my house.
Im off to Portugal in Sept and Vegas in October.
Aint bragging just facts.

You do well with that £11000, iprefertolay.

iprefertolay you are bragging. You've just made a list of your wealth and possessions on a public forum. If that isn't bragging then I don't know what is.

iprefertolay, Shhhhh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4iezZRfwvQ

I have two systems both are great

http://www.ibgaming.co.uk/

great tips 1 winner already today 33-1

Sir..... I know exactly what your systems are!

System "A" and system "B".

just had the 4.20 winner at 30

the system ibgaming had the winner not me

33% of favs win and trade shorter, approx 70% are placed and most trade shorter,

something to think about me thinks

wifes got lots more

so 67% fav dont win and 30% dont place

Just make good bets at good prices 1X2 on football or another sport that you know about.

Lay England in every major championship. Except when they are playing at home. Only system I know that has worked for the last 80 years.

Some clever people on this thread

I [:)] i am clever...and
I have the SYSTEM that works!!!
1st... I put my money in BF and with my SYSTEM the money gone
so my system work! something hapens every time i put money... and money disappear! 

REAL GENIUS SYSTEM

I use LAYBOTPRO, it works for me. (This is not an ad).

Profits are better than Wages!  Always!

tonystip, But how does your laybotpro work? what system do you use?

I have a bot bot but can't make it pay.

It's so frustrating.

Anyone remember the Precision Strategy system that was going a few years'back?  Apparently it was suceesful every year since 2001.  They often had full size advert in Racing Post.

iprefertolay Joined: 16 Sep 02
Replies: 33 02 Aug 10 21:03   
Firstly greenviking should never bet hes a fool.Fav always wins once at a meeting!! what a joke buy a newspaper greenviking.
Secondly I aint selling my system it works for me traders use on Betfair and on all stockmarkets througout the world.
Most of you need to learn like I have done over eight years ,there are books out there , read them.
Yes I have had some accounts closed with bookmakers because my accounts were not economical for them!! they dont like winners.
They want mug punters like greenviking, cant blame em lol. 


iprefertolay Joined: 16 Sep 02
Replies: 33 03 Aug 10 23:35   
yes no moves its called arbitrage trading aint rocket science learn it. 



I see a potential problem lurking around the corner.

page-413 Joined: 03 Jan 05
Replies: 887 31 Jul 10 17:55   


Ok lets get this straight right here >>

No Systems work long run did you hear me NONE

Its not possible .


Probably the most inaccurate 'statement' I have ever read on the forum.

I've had one that's worked for five years and throws up, an average of, 34 bets a week but the edge is very small and it's not scaleable due to the markets liquidity but it's the only one that's stood the test of time.

I've got one that's done very well over 12 days

I think buzzer has my system. It could have been me writing those comments.

buzzer send it back pronto! my email is ........... [>o]

there was a chap on here a couple of years ago who used to lay the lowest price Top Weighted horse in handicap races . Namshiri I believe was his Forum name ... seemed to do alright ... I think there were other filters as well ... max price/not odds on but that was about it.

Backing NH horses that won LTO and reppear within 5 days is another old one

Of course Muq your system works .. you would'nt have it any other way would you LOL

It could be argued that any system which shows a win strike rate of above 17% (at least 1000 qualifiers since 2003) AND has shown a profit at Industry SP over that time can be made to work on here.

Yes there is a system that works , it is called the "system that never fails" it is as old as the hills:

You have to be patient as F*ck and have a massive bank ...... if you have then read on

You back the FAV in all 5 English classics adding your loss to the deired win , until one comes in.

results from 2003 - present

epsom derby                  l w l l w w l w
epsom oaks                   l w l l w w l l
1000 guineas                 w l w w l l l l
2000 guineas                 l l l l l l w l
st leger                     l l l w w w l w

work downwards

star with the first classic and then the next etc until you get a win then quit for the year you will note that you would have won every year.....

However its total bollx really cos who the hell has the patiance or the bankroll to make this worthwhile !!

page-413     11 Aug 10 13:22 
Of course Muq your system works .. you would'nt have it any other way would you LOL

au contraire.

I have lots of systems that are no longer profitable. I have others that have worked for years and years. The racing landscape is forever changing.

The charlatans supposedly selling 'winning systems' are simply shopping for mugs. A guy on here sold a system that was built on back fitted results. I rubbished it at the time, he said it would work long term. It ended in tears. As alluded to no sane person would sell tried and tested winning systems. It is the easiest job in the world to back fit some good looking systems to sell on to those who know no better.

Pittsburgh Phil used to post a handful of systems on here that had worked for eons and continued to work after he made them public. They were based on sound logic, like inappropriate weight allowances in certain race types at certain times of the year.

Feck is living proof that large amounts of money can be made from systematically backing horses.

if it works

last thing you do is sell it

Muqbil 11 Aug 10 15:20

"Feck is living proof that large amounts of money can be made from systematically backing horses."

Are you sure ?

I thought he didn't bet in any meaningful ammounts ( I.E. enough to generate 100 betfair points ).
As he started a thread a few months back moaning about the requirement for 100 point to be able to access betfairs historical data.
And thus accidentally outed himself as an internet fanasist/all mouth no trousers sort of guy who doesn't actually bet.


maybe your post is a wind up?

Feck doesn't need me to defend him, but I will take the bait.... He has openly admitted to not having used Betfair for a long while due to getting snared in the pc net. I'm no mathematician but 100,000 points would become very few points within a year.

Feck seems to post on here a lot, didn't somebody make the suggestion a while back that the people who spend all their time on the forum are probably skint; I am not too convinced that he is a serious gambler.

Muqbil 12 Aug 10 05:51


....He[Feck] has openly admitted to not having used Betfair for a long while due to getting snared in the pc net....

Yes I saw a post of his a few days ago where he stated he had boycotted betfair cos of the PC. ( as a reason he had less than 100 points ).

My immediate reaction to this was: What a load of cobblers!

Because in the vast majority of his hundreds of posts on the subject, he has mantained that the PC is aimed at, and will ONLY impact traders, parasites, ferengi ( wtf are they ? ) and cheats.
And therefore in his view, the PC is a 'good thing'.


Therefore I have real difficuly accepting as true, that he actually boycotted betfair because he would personally pay it.
As it would mean according to his own spoutings on the subject that he himself is a trader, parasite, ferengi or cheat.


There are other cirumstancial evidence pointers to the "boycotted betfair" statement being made up, such as, In the 100's of posts he has made on the PC he has never even hinted at it having the slightest impact on himself,Let alone he was boycotting because of it.
or that he only revealed this boycott as a reply to a post I made pointing out to others his lack of actual betting and therefore he has a questionable level of insight into gambling and the PC itself. And is not the expert he makes himself out to be.



In summary:
===========
Fecks posting style and content over a number of years led me to assume that he wasn't the betting expert he and others thought he was.

A few months back Feck accidentaly outed himself and revealed he didn't bet on betfair using meaningful ammounts of money.
Aha I thought, proof of my first assumption. And I proceeded to point out this lack of betting and hence probable lack of expertise to others a couple of times when I thought people had been duped into thinking he was an expert.

The 3rd time ( in 4 or 5 months ) I pointed this out he retorted with this 'Boycott' story, which because of the various reasons I have stated above I think is codswallop.


Lastly....
I'm an open minded sort of person, prepared to change my mind and admit I'm wrong if evidence or logical arguements suggests my views are incorrect.

Muqbil, You seems like a reputable and intelligent sort of person.
( I can't recall any posts you made that would suggest otherwise )
Should I change my view that Feck is all mouth and no trousers ?

I Don't know how well ( if at all ) you know Feck, but can you vouch for his self alledged expertise and integrity ?

This boycott thing still puzzles me as he's always seemed very Pro the PC

Feck N. Eejit Joined: 10 Jan 02
Replies: 1736 19 Jun 10 20:09 
Norma, can't be bothered banging my head against a shower of clowns anymore. It's time to call it a day with this place. It's now nothing more than a coffee morning for copy cats and cheats. Fk the lot of them.

Muqbil, Palace Moon was very slowly away (someone said Fallon was slow to take the hood off) but it was just as well as finishing a close second to the Honest Jeremy Noseda "gamble landed" would've been even more frustrating.



This place has become fecks Hotel California

deepwater Joined: 06 May 10
Replies: 1051 11 Aug 10 17:02 
if it works

last thing you do is sell it

Youre a genius are you not

no moves Joined: 24 Feb 04
Replies: 598 12 Aug 10 09:34 
Feck seems to post on here a lot, didn't somebody make the suggestion a while back that the people who spend all their time on the forum are probably skint; I am not too convinced that he is a serious gambler.
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So because someone suggested that forum regulars dont make money here it must be true.Spa

Escapee, I have never met Feck. I would, however, put my bank on @ 1.01 that he is (was) a big winner on bf.

I should never have mentioned his name tbh, it's totally derailed the blasted topic so please disregard his name in relation to a discussion on systems and systematic methods..

Come to think of it your on here a lot as well greenviking

of course there are systems that work. Laying every favourite is not a system, backing every favourite is not a system, backing overs/unders is not a system. You adapt your betting strategies, you can compound your bets under certain circumstances, you keep details of all bets placed, you have a stop loss plan, you have a recovery plan, you have discipline and you put in the hours.
The only people on here who say "it can't be done" are those that can't do it.
Answer this question :- Could you make £2/day ( yes TWO pounds ) on here ? If you answer yes then think about it !!

The system that the IB Gaming website is using has made over 400 pts profit in just 50 days now.

why oh why do people have to blab about it if they are lucky enough to find a system thats working at the moment. keep it to your fecking self and you'll make more money.

Lay Johnjos drifters

bet pennies,lose pennies

ain't the worst about

lay two in a race, at least one less than bookies sp.

you can develop trading strategies to minimize risk, but apart from that i dont get what a system is. it all comes down to price models.

minimize losses longterm is a good battle to have

Aug 2, 2010 -- 3:03PM, iprefertolay wrote:

Firstly greenviking should never bet hes a fool.Fav always wins once at a meeting!! what a joke buy a newspaper greenviking.Secondly I aint selling my system it works for me traders use on Betfair and on all stockmarkets througout the world.Most of you need to learn like I have done over eight years ,there are books out there , read them.Yes I have had some accounts closed with bookmakers because my accounts were not economical for them!! they dont like winners.They want mug punters like greenviking, cant blame em lol.

And now you are trying to sell the idea of free bets for 5 bucks to anybody prepared to give you the time of day......  rotflmfao...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X705M3njgy0

Aug 4, 2010 -- 4:31PM, iprefertolay wrote:

I also have ISA tax free quiet rightly corporate bonds, fixed interest trust, 12 cards debit,account on betfair, if I ring a bookie the price changes when my phone goes down.I have a 20k traker fund following the FTSE.Accounts with nat west, santander,nationwide,yorkshire bs,A &l,etc.I have my personal advisor comes to my house.Im off to Portugal in Sept and Vegas in October.Aint bragging just facts.

rotflmfao.

you mugs still looking for Systems up to 4 houses now Buy To Let

see ya you yankee , treble , correct score mugs stick to your roll ups and betting shops
bye

WHEN I GET A WINNING SYSTEM IM GOING TO TELL THE WORLD ABOUT IT ,WHY KEEP IT A SECRET WHEN YTOU CAN BE REMBERED FOR INVENTING SOMETHING BRILLIANT  LIKE MATILDA BOOMERANG AND CHARLENE CUSTARD

I REMEMBER WHAT  TIM  THE TYPEWRITER INVENTOR  SAID TO MY GRANDAD  WHEN HE INVENTED THE TYPWRITER
HE SAID WHAT COMES AFTER S IN THE ALPHABET GRANDAD DO WAH DIDDY

MY UNCLE ALPHONCE WORKED AT BLETCHLY HOUSE WITH THE GAY MAN THAT IN VENTED THE COMPUTER

I ONCE SAID TO HIM UNCLE ALPHONCE DID YOU GO TO BLETCHLY HOUSE TO HELP US WIN THE WAR

HE SAID NO HE WENT FOR THE SEX

MY UNCLE ALPHONCE WORKED AT BLETCHLY HOUSE WITH THE GAY MAN THAT IN VENTED THE COMPUTER

I ONCE SAID TO HIM UNCLE ALPHONCE DID YOU GO TO BLETCHLY HOUSE TO HELP US WIN THE WAR

HE SAID NO HE WENT FOR THE SEX

Here's a system that works:
Open accounts with various bookies with free bet offers for new customers. Take advantage of them by using a betting exchange to lock in a guaranteed profit.

The only risks are :

1)bookie going out of business or refusing to pay you (very rare)
2)human error

Fairly straightforward to make a few thousand over a few months.
You can do it with just a few tenners, but the more cash you have to start with, the less time you need to spend to make money, as you can a do a bunch of offers simultaneously. There are people who have made tens of thousands doing just this on a part time basis. I found it pretty tedious, but it's the easiest way to build up a decent bank.

The bookies will keep giving you offers over time giving you a small stream of continued income. I still get emails saying 'hey we haven't seen you for a while, we have deposited £10 on your account etc."

This is a very formulaic way of making money. You follow a set procedure, and don't need to apply any creativity. It is useful to get to grips with odds and how they relate to each other. It's a good way to learn about betting, if you have been unable to profit so far.

When I started doing these free bets, I was already making a decent amount on Betfair, which is why I didn't pursue it further.



CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THIS PLEASE .. IM LOST

I have a system for sale 100% sure to make you all money .....get a job you lazy barstewards.. sick of seeing you lot hanging around betting shops smoking

I have discovered an amazing strategy on Betfair on the  CS markets .It has a 94 % strike rate at level stakes and is not back fitted .
I am making £650 to £850 per day with this BUT..................!!!!

I want to sell it online for £39.99 and share it with you all ????

YOU MUGS
for god sake get a life and while you're at it a job.

ANY SYSTEMS OUT THERE THAT WWORK

devlinlfckopirish1990
devlinlfckopirish1990 30 Jul 10 00:05 Joined: 17 Jul 10 | Topic/replies: 1,319 | Blogger: devlinlfckopirish1990's blog


Of course there are plenty.
Do you really believe that people who have them would post them up for the fun of it.
If you have an idea the best person who can quickly tell you in an instant is compound _magic.
Truly he/she is brilliant and a really decent person.Has helped loads on here including me.GL.

There is a fantastic system out there... It involves backing only in novice hurdles ..... Place only

There is a fantastic system out there... It involves backing only in novice hurdles ..... Place only

yes arbing

Many decry systems or any means of staking. I would like to point out that
Most use some sort of selection method which is in itself a systematic approach.
The staking of those selections is what usually determines whether you will make
a profit in the long term or not.

An analysis of most selection methods usually shows what I call "Purple Patches"
a purple patch is a series of selections that win according to plan with a high ROI.

The total selections in themselves at level stakes may not over the course of 500 wagers
make a profit.

Lets take a simple selection method I have:
I find the favourite that is in the same daily paper(PrePost) and through rating the entire
field using only logic E.G. Weight, distance, class and form. Now the prepost fav must have
at least a 2 length advantage over the entire field bar one other horse but must still have
an advantage over the other horse.

So the fav has a 2 length advantage over all horses bar the second best rated which could be
a 10/1 shot. This fav becomes the selection. Out of ten races rated I usually get about three
favs that qualify.

The staking used is what I call the poor mans method.
Lets say you can afford only 5.00 a week but you need an initial bank of 20.00 to get you started.

This is how it goes:_  We wait until the last 3 to 4 minutes before the off and we see that the selection is showing a dividend of 2.60. The amount to bet is 1/2.60*bank, in this instance
the bank for the first bet is 1/2.6=0.3846*20.00=7.69 Rounddown to 1 decimal place = 7.60
our first bet. All bets are placed at betfair SP. If this wins say at 2.64 it is a profit of 12.46
From this we deduct commission and also deduct the same amount as the commission to go into a reserve bank. What is left of our profit gets added to the running bank. So in my case in Australia the commission is 6.5% on 12.46 rounded I would pay 0.81cents and the same amount to go into reserve. Taking 1.62 of 12.46 = 10.84 my running bank would now be 30.84
ready for my next selection to be calculated in the same way.
Lets suppose over a 3 year period betting only 1 day a week my total selections = 393 PrePost favs that qualified and were bet on as set out above.

Next we go to the loss side of things, If we lost our first bet 7.60 our next running bank would
be 12.40. if the running bank drops below 20.00 and the last bet was a loser we add 1.00
from reserve. The reserve is made up of our weekly deposit of 5.00 which we are prepared
to lose a week plus any transfers from previous wins. The next bet would now be calculated
on 13.40. now when you lose some bets in a row your bets will drop below 5.00 the minimum allowable bet. There are two ways around this hurdle 1. you use gruss which lets you bet below 5.00, 2. Say your bet for the next race is 0.50 cents or pence In the last minutes before the off _ lay that selection for  5.00 and then place a bet at SP for 5.50. Although this is not always optimal you will gain on some and lose on others. If you have a loss and the running bank is over 20.00 do not add any amount from reserve.

Now lets assume before our "Purple Patch" hits we lose 200 bets in a row (unthinkable
backing favs) which would take about 18 months, the most you could possibly lose is 220.00
We have lost 216.00
Now our Purple Patch kicks in and over the next 50 bets we get 27 winners with an average dividend of 3.79

At the start of the Purple patch our running bank is 4.00 and the reserve is 36.00 Our first bet
is 1.30 which wins at 2.88 ____

At the end of the 50 run Purple Patch it ends with a total net profit of 167.11 and 275.43 in
reserve. Not bad considering 250 bets on prepost favs with only 27 winners.
Here's a breakdown
NB these selections may or may not end up as favs, they are prepost favs in a paper hours before start time.

Running Bank	Div.	Bet	Win	Gross Profit	Total net profit
4.00	2.88	1.3	1	2.44	-213.72
6.12	8.23	0.7	1	5.06	-208.99
10.53	1.76	5.9	1	4.48	-204.80
14.41	4.16	3.4	1	10.74	-194.76
23.75	3.49	6.8		-6.80	-201.56
17.95	1.08	16.6	1	1.33	-200.32
19.10	5.1	3.7		-3.70	-204.02
16.40	6.01	2.7	1	13.53	-191.37
28.17	3.34	8.4		-8.40	-199.77
20.77	2.26	9.1	1	11.47	-189.06
30.73	2.56	12		-12.00	-201.06
19.73	3.9	5	1	14.50	-187.51
32.33	3.99	8.1	1	24.22	-164.87
53.39	2.88	18.5		-18.50	-183.37
34.89	5.51	6.3		-6.30	-189.67
28.59	2.72	10.5	1	18.06	-172.79
44.29	4.9	9		-9.00	-181.79
35.29	3.95	8.9	1	26.26	-157.24
58.13	5.64	10.3	1	47.79	-112.56
99.70	1.83	54.4		-54.40	-166.96
45.30	5.17	8.7		-8.70	-175.66
36.60	7.2	5		-5.00	-180.66
31.60	4.2	7.5	1	24.00	-158.22
52.48	4.57	11.4		-11.40	-169.62
41.08	2.96	13.8		-13.80	-183.42
27.28	6.80	4.00	1	23.20	-161.73
47.46	2.81	16.80	1	30.41	-133.30
73.91	1.84	40.10	1	33.68	-101.81
103.21	3.62	28.50	1	74.67	-32.00
168.16	5.31	31.60	1	136.20	95.34
286.64	5.97	48.00	1	238.56	318.39
494.18	3.00	164.70	1	329.40	626.37
780.74	2.42	322.6		-322.60	303.77
458.14	5.1	89.8		-89.80	213.97
368.34	3	122.7		-122.70	91.27
245.64	5.36	45.8	1	199.69	277.98
419.37	4.47	93.8	1	325.49	582.30
702.53	3.53	199		-199.00	383.30
503.53	4.6	109.4		-109.40	273.90
394.13	2.85	138.2	1	255.67	512.95
616.56	3.2	192.6		-192.60	320.35
423.96	2.95	143.7		-143.70	176.65
280.26	3	93.4		-93.40	83.25
186.86	4.07	45.9		-45.90	37.35
140.96	3.92	35.9		-35.90	1.45
105.06	1.91	55	1	50.05	48.24
148.59	1.75	84.9	1	63.68	107.78
203.99	3.65	55.8	1	147.87	246.03
332.62	2.01	165.4		-165.40	80.63
167.22	2.24	74.6	1	92.50	167.11

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There are many nice strategies that work in 3YO only races .

Bet only when you are sure the odds are
in your favour, learn to recognise when,
not easy, experience required.