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letsalldance
15 Jul 10 13:57
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Might be a stupid question but I was wondering is gambling income liable to income tax once it goes beyond a certain point. I know all the tax rules regarding gambling changed pretty recentley but I don't really know the full story.

I'm not a full-time gambler, but what would be the case if you were and gambling was your only income? would you have to pay tax on the gambling income then?

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By:
omg ref wtf!?!
When: 15 Jul 10 14:00
No
By:
dustybin
When: 15 Jul 10 14:01
I know all the tax rules regarding gambling changed pretty recentley

what are you referring to?
By:
mug
When: 16 Jul 10 13:01
Dickhead.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 16 Jul 10 13:22
depends on where you are living & paying tax, i would imagine.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Jul 10 22:47
some countries charge a tax , not in the UK though
By:
SA - Lacks middle pace - Faded
When: 19 Jul 10 09:47
Well not yet...........!
By:
scoobyknows
When: 19 Jul 10 09:56
NO!
By:
TELL DEL
When: 19 Jul 10 11:41
Unlike the US, there is no tax to pay on gambling winnings in the UK and that includes casino, bingo, poker, horses, greyhounds and sports betting.

The main reason gambling is not taxed in the UK is because of the way UK tax law works. If the taxman started taxing winnings he would also need to offset losses before working out personal income tax- and this would be a can of worms.
By:
scoobyknows
When: 19 Jul 10 12:05
Correct!
By:
brendanuk1
When: 19 Jul 10 12:33
if you become liable to pay gambling tax one day, the next day your on the plane out shirley Confused
By:
AussiInUK
When: 19 Jul 10 12:45
Head in Hands Man please....
By:
BobSievier
When: 19 Jul 10 13:12
Yes , it's called the SadPremium Charge.
By:
nairda
When: 19 Jul 10 14:26
everyone already gets tax 15%..
By:
scottw
When: 20 Jul 10 01:49
If you declare winnings as income, it will be taxed as income :)
By:
The Visionary
When: 20 Jul 10 08:52
Gambling income in UK is taxable if you are seen to be in partnership with others
By:
BobSievier
When: 20 Jul 10 09:09
22% actually
By:
grey shark
When: 20 Jul 10 09:20
.
By:
catfloppo
When: 20 Jul 10 16:02
scott, thats not true.  I have fully declared all winnings via an accountant and it has all been acknowledged as tax free.
By:
ripped off
When: 20 Jul 10 16:12
The Visionary     20 Jul 10 08:52 
Gambling income in UK is taxable if you are seen to be in partnership with others


Wrong.
By:
ripped off
When: 20 Jul 10 16:37
If that was the case losers could bet in partnership to claim tax back.
By:
dustybin
When: 20 Jul 10 16:48
scott, thats not true.  I have fully declared all winnings via an accountant and it has all been acknowledged as tax free.

If you filled a self assessment in based on winnings they would accept it, that might have been the point

It was once attempted to take tax off me by calling capital 'miscellaneous income' a term that my solicitor laughed at and called cheeky, a letter from him was enough for the greedy gets to back down
By:
The Visionary
When: 20 Jul 10 17:01
ripped off - put a call out for Honest Al - he'll tell you all about how the taxman came after him about 5 years ago.  Not sure what the final outcome was.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 20 Jul 10 17:01
If your filling in a self assessment and puting down winnings as taxable income then its a tax on stupidty Grin
By:
The Visionary
When: 20 Jul 10 17:05
Actually the Honest Al case may have been where he was using somebody else's money to bet and then his winnings were seen as a commission and as such liable to tax.
By:
ripped off
When: 20 Jul 10 17:11
That is right Visionary.  His case was not straight forward.
By:
cornubia
When: 20 Jul 10 19:58
There is not and never has been a UK law that allows gambling losses to be claimed against tax.
The HMRC website indicates which punters are non taxable and which are.
Recreational and self employed one man band professional punters are tax free.
By:
dustybin
When: 20 Jul 10 20:33
If your filling in a self assessment and puting down winnings as taxable income then its a tax on stupidty

I hope this repost wasnt aimed at me, because mine was no such thing...it was a clown collective opportunist thinking that because I was doing well, so should they
By:
JPL66
When: 20 Jul 10 21:58
I guess this is the HMRC website cornubia mentioned?

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/bimmanual/bim22015.htm
By:
catfloppo
When: 21 Jul 10 01:07
Honest Al was betting with someone elses money, that's not gambling.
By:
BobSievier
When: 21 Jul 10 14:17
correction : 22.5% .
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