I hate betting on ''things to happen''

I am exactly the same mate. I actually think that long-term wise it's profitable, as most punters like being on the "positive" results, ie. overs points/goals etc. NBA is my favourite for backing unders, although it drives me insane when easy fouls are given. Just don't back unders in Isner-Mahut!

Surely laying overs is the same as backing unders.

If you don't like backing things to happen but prefer
to lay then you are laying a thing not to happen,
which is itself also a "thing to happen".

So I don't see your point - surely the price is the
determining factor.

I agree price is paramount. I'm just talking
about my personal preference if you like, that
I would prefer the value 'unders' bet to the
value 'overs' bet. sitting waiting for 3 goals
to be scored is something I'm less comfortable
with than watching no goals being scored !!

NBA ?

I'm the same, much prefer to start off as a winner.  Yet there are all these people laying 0-0

Toally agree with OP - I don't bet on any of these markets quoted though....tend to lay the home team on match odds

VardonVoo: If you don't like backing things to happen but prefer to lay then you are laying a thing not to happen, which is itself also a "thing to happen".

I think you have a slight logic problem there.

The OP said that he didn't like backing things to happen. Your mistake is in saying that this is the same as laying a thing not to happen. It isn't - it's the opposite. It's laying a thing TO happen.

Think overs/unders. OP doesn't like backing overs, he prefers laying overs, not laying unders as you suggest! And laying overs, backing unders, is not betting on a "thing to happen".

Clear as mud?

Supernap quit betting then if you prefer laying thats still backing i.e lay overs your backing unders, lay a team your backing them not to win etc etc

Hornets, perhaps I should take your advice, that from someone
who has been on Betfair precisely two weeks. If I lay, say 'overs'
I'm looking for 'nothing to happen' to win, whereas if I am a
backer of the same 'overs' I'm looking goals to be scored, i.e.
'something to happen'. I personally prefer the former. Is that
understood ?

I like your point. I do hate to bet on things to happen. I prefer to bet on no more goals or unders or stay away if no value in odds.

Farcical thread

Supernap ive been here longer than two weeks

And also if you lay overs your looking for there not to be any goals, either way a back or a lay your looking for something NOT to happen or dont you get that

Hornets, I could be forgiven for thinking you only started betting
two weeks ago as you don't seem to understand what I am getting at.
I realise that backing 'overs' is the same as laying 'unders', as laying
'overs' is the same as backing 'unders'.I prefer the latter pair cos
3 goals have to be scored for me to lose, whereas with the former pair
3 goals have to be scored for me to win.  I prefer to start off winning
rather losing, although at the end of the day there is probably little diff.
Most punters back the good thing to win by a hatful. When they don't, the
books clean up. A point to ponder as well.

But your always backing something with any bet even if its a lay

yes but one has the chances of happening increasing the other has the chances of happening decreasing - from kick off.

Supernap, I get what you're saying; I take it you must be watching the games you bet on because you say...

'I prefer to start off winning rather than losing...'

What if you were to just check the result AFTER the game has finished?  If you'd backed unders, you'd be betting on strikers not to score goals, and goalkeepers to make saves.  These things in themselves are events..A striker missing an open goal is an event...a penalty being saved is an event, so really when it comes down to it you don't have a point, even though you really believe that you do..

I thought that what you meant, when i read the title of the thread, is that you don't care about a result because you back the value, and as we all know, deep down, that's the only way you're gonna make any DirtyCashMoney...long term..ah what a cliche, true tho..

i think what the OP is saying is that there are two types of approaches that suggest the personality of the punter, the optimistic and the pessimistic

in the case of goals markets every minute that passes the "unders backers/overs layers" see their position improve and the "overs backers/unders layers" worsen and vice-versa

so some start on a confortable position and others on a unconfortable position, how the match develops will obviously determine the changing of this initial positions equally on opposing directions

Dirtycashmoney, I agree. some bets are best not watched ! I also agree that strikers NOT
scoring goals are in themselves 'things happening' but those things happen a lot more
often than goals being scored. It's just a personal thing really, and boils down to the
fact that I prefer backing the value 'unders' than the value 'overs'. (I wish I hadn't
started this thread !)

why would you wish that supernap??

you expressed your opinions and thats all that matters

Lusitano71Correct, but I get bit
cheesed by derisory comments (not from you
I might add)

I prefer to back
and lay and then
lay and back and
then look at my
red book and think
what have you done?

I agree 100%