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tarm
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Does anyone think that there is a limit to PC above the current 20% or if indeed 20% is the limit?
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Report vic • May 12, 2010 8:57 AM BST
Assuming that you win every time at 5% commission then limit would be 96% of winnings cos you would have generated 4%.
Report palacefatboy • May 12, 2010 11:39 AM BST
How does trading affect PC. If you won every trade say £2 a day for a year or 2 how would pc kick in
Report Lay Low • May 12, 2010 12:31 PM BST
How does trading affect PC. If you won every trade say £2 a day for a year or 2 how would pc kick in?

Winning £14 per week with any losses is the same as having  a single winning bet Of £14.

( 5% comm)

Gross Profit___£14
Generated_Comm 35p
PC_due_________£2.45



This means that your £1,000 allowance would last 408 weeks
Report palacefatboy • May 12, 2010 1:41 PM BST
Thnks for that . I don't want to win big just often and see how it goes.
Report getintheir • May 12, 2010 1:48 PM BST
would it be correct to say you need to get overall tradung profits of around £6666 before you get into pc territory then its time to start a new account?
Report Lay Low • May 13, 2010 12:23 PM BST
Getintheir,

That would be correct if the £6,666 was won over a period of time without ever having a losing bet or trade.

The example above shows what would happen if £14 were won every week without losing.
If the £14 profit was due to winning £114 and losing £100 there would be no PC to pay.

For anyone who still does not know how to calculate there weekly PC liability open up a blank spreadsheet then:

Sum all your winning markets pre-commission for the week  into cell  A1
Sum all your losing markets for the week expressed as a positive value  into  cell  B1
Commission   into  cell  C1

In any other cell copy and paste
=0.2*(A1-B1)-((A1*C1/2)+(B1*0.015))

If the answer is a negative value then your PC liability is zero, You do not get a rebate

Weekly pre-commission profit is A1-B1 and Commission already paid is (A1-B1)* C1
Report palacefatboy • May 13, 2010 9:09 PM BST
But surely simply by trading , even if every trade wins overall part of that trade is awinning bet and part is losing , how is this calculated in PC.
Report The Investor • May 14, 2010 8:28 AM BST
The maximum PC is 17.5% of GP.
Maximum PC+commission is 22.5% of GP paid (20% generated)

This is what would be paid by someone on 5% commission who wins every market.

Of course if you pay PC and then lose, the maximum has no bounds.
Report The Investor • May 14, 2010 8:30 AM BST
To clarify, I paid 25% in commission+PC in 2009. This happened because I had a losing month in December, bringing up the share of GP paid to Betfair.
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