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Maurice365
22 Apr 10 20:58
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Do you green up when you can, or do you let it ride?


Mi?
I'm a nervous sort of f**ker and tend to green up.

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By:
Hull
When: 22 Apr 10 21:05
big nads, very rarely green
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Apr 10 21:13
never
By:
dlarssonf
When: 22 Apr 10 21:21
greening up is the easy part of this game really, its redding up when you should in my experience that helps more
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 22 Apr 10 21:38
If you have an opinion on an event,and the market moves to support your opinion,then let it ride,imo
By:
HooRoo
When: 22 Apr 10 21:42
better a small guaranteed profit than a possible big loss - i'm green
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Apr 10 22:08
guaranteed profit = smaller profit though , over time you may collect less from 100 greened up bets than 100 you left ride , even if 30 of them ending up losing.
By:
tommytwists tommyturns
When: 22 Apr 10 22:09
green up for small profit and move on to the next bet.
By:
gresty241
When: 22 Apr 10 22:34
i always go green for a guarenteed profit, it's cost me some big big wins but it's also saved me from many big losses.
Also as a poster says above it's very difficult to go all red sometimes but why let greens that have no chance remaining ride
By:
TheSnapper
When: 23 Apr 10 07:58
tobermory is correct. I think the difference becomes quite large over many, many bets.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 23 Apr 10 08:29
Green if it is value to do it. Otherwise run it.

Easier said than done.
By:
Hotblack Desiato
When: 23 Apr 10 08:34
Please what is the formula for greening up that includes your current comission rate.


eg. I back @11.0 for £100 and the price has now shortened to 6.0. Comm rate 5%

How do I get equal green?

Ta.
By:
shiraz
When: 23 Apr 10 09:05
Hotblack Desiato

There is no formula as such, but this may help you.

Go into "More Options" which is to the top right of any betting screen (just under the Refresh button).
Then tick the following options
Display "what if" figure
and
Display P&L net of commission


Then when you are in your market having backed the 100 @ 11.0, just put a lay bet up at 6.0 and it will display the "what if" for you.
By:
Hotblack Desiato
When: 23 Apr 10 09:23
shiraz

I want to put it in an Excel sheet and the process you just mentioned must be using a formula to complete that WhatIf calculation.

Anyone?
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 23 Apr 10 09:29
oddschecker.com is almost bound to have a tool that will do it for you. Look at betting tools on the top right hand of their screen. That will save you messing about with excel.

But I don't understand why you would want to do it except if you think that the odds are totally in line with the probabilities. A very rare occurrence in my very humble view.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 23 Apr 10 09:30
Besides betfair has the "what if" facility so why mess about?
By:
Hotblack Desiato
When: 23 Apr 10 09:57
As above.

The Oddschecker tool uses a formula to calculate it.

Anyone?
By:
Ghetto Joe
When: 23 Apr 10 10:09
((back_odds*stake)/lay_odds-stake)*(100-commission)/100
By:
Hotblack Desiato
When: 23 Apr 10 10:10
Thank you Joe. :)
By:
Cosmic Horizon
When: 23 Apr 10 13:12
It really is an extraordinarily bad idea NOT to "green up"! Just try not greening up and see how much more you lose over the long run!
By:
the silverback
When: 23 Apr 10 14:04
Depends if you have any concept of value. It not, green away and lose long-term. If you do, do what's correct and win long-term. Simple really.
By:
cpfc4me
When: 24 Apr 10 03:18
Alex had it spot on "Green if it is value to do it. Otherwise run it."

He was also spot on with his comment that it's easier said than done!
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 24 Apr 10 08:33
There is an exception to this and that is to green if you think that you can recycle. But again rarely to leave a level book.
By:
heynoodles
When: 24 Apr 10 08:36
imo you should green up even if losing some value in the long run, because constant wins breed confidence and confidence is a huge plus.
By:
Levelsteakprophet
When: 24 Apr 10 10:37
many pros put in a lay bet rather than use the dreaded green up
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 24 Apr 10 10:48
It would not feel right to take money off the book unless it screamed at you.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 25 Apr 10 10:49
http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=101352730&ex=1&origin=MRL




Is is just never going to happen. This price, imo is down to one of the consistent greeners greening.

Only take a green when it is value. 1.05 is not!
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 25 Apr 10 10:56
** is.
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