Horses System

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It took me a surprisingly short time to work out my stakes.

Do you have a breakdown of how this system has fared to level stakes over the past year ?

month?

week?

last 30 minutes?

Won on last two races. Best stick to handicaps with it.

Mines better.46 lays only 1 winner so far,at 4/1.

Tiger ....
@ what odds max ?
My mate layed 2 consecutive 30-1 outsiders ton a time - lost almost 6 grand that cured him !

max odds matched at 7.6. Don't worry,I know it wont last !

Wed LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Thu LLLLLLLLLLL 5.1 LLLLLLLLLLLLLL

I will try and do a session on Saturday to prove this unbelievable system in running.

:D

Tiger hi good morning zip here .. you should know better than rising to the bait .. systems my backside ... try the form book if you need winner .. the form book willl also tell you the losers .. what more do you want ..

My system is based on form :^0

Crisp 77 .. Yes my system IS based on FORM ....... You seem a bright lad to me .. it took you less then 2 mins to work that out .. well done ...

LLL 5.1 damn. Rip it up and start again.

or just avoid the 5.1's

£50 bank...4 bets later with the system

Horse Racing: £59.02 | Tote: | Total P&L: £59.02

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 5 of 5 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Perth 23rd Apr : 2m4f Hcap Hrd 23-Apr-10 16:15 23-Apr-10 16:26 20.94 (solis)
Horse Racing / Wolv 23rd Apr : 1m Hcap 23-Apr-10 16:05 23-Apr-10 16:10 29.51 (aegean king)
Horse Racing / Wolv 23rd Apr : 1m1f Hcap 23-Apr-10 15:35 23-Apr-10 15:41 3.81 (kings topic)
Horse Racing / Wolv 23rd Apr : 5f Hcap 23-Apr-10 15:05 23-Apr-10 15:08 4.76 (the jobber)

Amazing seans :-)

2 winners at 5.1 so far today,what is it with them ? And another at 6.4,but 19 losers keeps me ahead so far.
I had Solis too,maybe we should double the bet if we agree on one !

3 winners at 5.1,another at 4.9, and a 6.4.
27 losers keep me ahead.
had my cut off been 5.1,I'd be 22 losers and a 6.4 winner today.
Weds would have been 17/17
Thurs 20/20.
That's 59/60,winner at 6.4.

Nice one TameTiger. All the losers in the laying game seem to come together...a good test of discipline :D

Do you lay on any set races? I'm just sticking to handicaps.

Hi Crisp

My current battle plan takes in all types of races,although I've had battle plans in the past that get better results in handicaps (laying).Actually,I will check results to see if there's any difference between handicaps/non handicaps the last 3 days.I don't like to back-fit too much though,or I'll end up with no bets.

Last 6 beaten this evening. One winner layed at 6.4 out of 66 selections.I'm staggered,never seen results like that at the odds I'm laying at.
What price bands do you play at ?

Nice one. Is yours form based then?

I've mainly stuck to handicaps because I need horses in the race with 6 results in the form, all the horses if possible.

My price band is anything up to 20.0. Although I rarely bother if it is above 12-14.

Like to go big on the short prices, but that is not always the best way :D

Lads

Do you lay to a fixed liability as I find that's best for me.

At the moment I am laying to £50, but will accumlate it if I win £3 or £4 on an outsider...so anywhere between £50-£60.

Checked all the results today on the handicaps.

Noticed that if I would have played the 5.25 at Newton Abbot...I would have lost.

Serious Choice 4/1.

I had Serious Choice aswell,so maybe not such a good idea to double up on the ones we agree on :)
I don't do any form study,it's purely a numbers racket as far as I'm concerned.
I lay to a fixed backers stake.10 points up today.Would have been over 20pts had I not done the 5.1's and under.They were break even previously so I thought I'd still include them today.
The 6.4 winner I layed today was in a race where I layed 4 others,so there was a fair chance I'd lay that winner.Usually it's 1-2 per race I get involved in.

9pts lost on the 3 NHF races,although the new price filter would have eliminated both winners I layed.

I never bet on NHF. I don't understand it and for some reason it freaks me out :D

H'caps and non handicaps return similar profits,which is what I'd expect.A 5/1 shot is a 5/1 shot,regardless of what kind of race.Having said that,I was hit by the winner of the last yesterday,a NHF race,winner was backed from 10/1 into 5/2.Might be an idea to stay clear of those.

Of the afternnon races, this is the list of the nags that fit my criteria for a lay. Just need to identify some short price ones now :-)

SANDOWN
1.00 Carlito's Spirit
2.00 Nortonthorpe Lad
Stripe me blue
3.05 Nozic
Air Force One
Lacdoudal
Hello Bud
4.50 General Eliott
RIPON
2.50 Lucky Art
Guertino
Sands Crooner
3.25 Halla San
Bogside Theatre
MARKET RASEN
2.10 The Hollow Bottom
2.40 Woody Valentine
Indian Pipe Dream
3.15 Owls FC
Adjami
Estrica
3.50 Ormus
Tranos
Keen Warrior
Peak Seasons
LEICESTER
1.55 Sunrise Safari
Ra Junior
Rowayton
Aroundthebay
Frognal
Dancing Maite
4.05 Marju King
El Libertador
Green Passion
Arashi
Divinatore
Frankie Falco
5.15 Haatheq
Jimmy the Poacher
Tilsworth Glenboy
High Holborn
Dovedon Diva

Now put the Billy Hills price against them, any opinions on some of the short priced ones TametheTiger?

SANDOWN
1.00 Carlito's Spirit 25/1
2.00 Nortonthorpe Lad 20/1
Stripe me blue 16/1
3.05 Nozic 33/1
Air Force One 14/1
Lacdoudal 12/1
Hello Bud 14/1
4.50 General Eliott 12/1
RIPON
2.50 Lucky Art 18/1
Guertino 25/1
Sands Crooner 5/1
3.25 Halla San 7/2
Bogside Theatre 3/1
MARKET RASEN
2.10 The Hollow Bottom 6/1
2.40 Woody Valentine 7/2
Indian Pipe Dream 8/1
3.15 Owls FC 22/1
Adjami 12/1
Estrica 6/1
3.50 Ormus 8/1
Tranos 13/2
Keen Warrior 8/1
Peak Seasons 16/1
LEICESTER
1.55 Sunrise Safari 14/1
Ra Junior 14/1
Rowayton 9/1
Aroundthebay 33/1
Frognal 33/1
Dancing Maite 20/1
4.05 Marju King 5/1
El Libertador 7/1
Green Passion 12/1
Arashi 10/1
Divinatore 8/1
Frankie Falco 25/1
5.15 Haatheq 7/2
Jimmy the Poacher 9/1
Tilsworth Glenboy 5/1
High Holborn 20/1
Dovedon Diva 50/1

Ok, got it down to 4 after looking at Timeform:

£50 exposure on each one

Market rasen
2.10 Hollow Bottom (slightly unsure)
3.15 Estrica
3.50 Tranos

Leicester
4.05 Marju King

:-)

They look good to me.Not sure if I'll be laying them yet,it depends on what price I can get.

Hopefully they wont all be 5.1 :-)

Having to go out for the afternoon...layed the above 4. Probably about £5 profit it they all lose. Good luck with your picks :-)

*£25

All 4 unplaced for yourself.
I'm a couple of points adrift at the mo,not surprising after the last few days.

Yes, just back & checked.

Returned about 27 quid.

Of the 40 lays shown with the system 3 won. On the Will Hill odds it would have been £46.69 profit, but with Betfair odds & commission...perhaps not alot.

Tonights system picks

HAYDOCK
6.00 Lady Lube Rye 25/1
6.35 Kings Head 20/1
7.05 Just Bond 12/1
Charlie Tipple 10/1
Ezdeyaad 9/1
Bold Marc 25/1
7.35 Deely Plaza 14/1
WOLVES
6.50 Loyal Royal 16/1
7.20 Madam Isshe 17/2
9.20 Birkside 15/2
Look Officer 12/1
Naheell 5/1
National Monument 8/1

Naheell 9.20 would be the only one I would entertain from that list.

I have my nose back in front again.17/19 today,82/85 overall,top price layed 7/1.

Well played.

Yes Naheel looks to be a decent short price lay :-)

Only 1 out the 13 won this evening....Just Bond. Horse was rated 5/5 by Timeform though.

System has returned 7.5% winners out of the lays today.