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Schalke 04
04 Feb 10 13:55
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Well, got £40 left that I am using for betting, tried so many different things in betting and this is the last ... the last few days I have turned the £40 into £42.81. The forum is the best place to keep a history of it ... smaller bets will be placed at bookies, and the larger bets if I need them will be placed here.

Every £1.43 I win at the moment increases the stakes, I have divided the money into 5 banks at the moment, and the following gets added to each bank as every £143 is won. Sometimes though I will back lower than the money in bank 1 like I have with the first bet of the thread, this further increases the amount of bets and profits .....

1p / 3p / 9p / 30p / £1

£40 start

51p / £1.53 / £4.59 / £14.30 / £20.50

Money for next stake increase(£1.38)
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Report Schalke 04 June 7, 2010 4:43 PM BST
next bet: (Tennis) Mur/Mur to bt Que/Lip @ 4/5 - £2.85 to win £2.28
Report Schalke 04 June 8, 2010 10:44 PM BST
£40 start

96p / £2.88 / £8.64 / £27.80 / £82.00 / £14.00 - Total in Banks - £135.78

Stake Increase £4.93 .. 1p / 3p / 9p / 30p / £1 / £3.50 .. current (£0.54)

240. (Darts) Dudbridge to bt Haydon @ 2/5 - £0.94 - lost
241. (Tennis) Stosur to bt Schiavone @ 1.99 - £2.82 to win £2.65 - lost
242. (Tennis) Nadal to bt Soderling 3-0 @ 2.58 - £8.46 to win £12.70 - WON
243. (Tennis) Baghdatis/Gasquet DOUBLE - £0.95 to win £0.60 - lost
244. (Tennis) Mur/Mur to bt Que/Lip @ 4/5 - £2.85 to win £2.28 - WON

level

244 Bets ----- 152 wins ----- 2 Void ----- 90 losers

©Schalke 04©
Report Schalke 04 June 8, 2010 10:51 PM BST
next bet: (Tennis) Petkovic to bt Chakvetadze @ 4/9 - £0.96 to win £0.43
Report Schalke 04 June 10, 2010 3:47 PM BST
next bet: (Tennis) Davydenko to bt Becker @ 8/11 - £2.88 to win £2.09
Report Northbouy June 10, 2010 3:52 PM BST
boris becker still playing?
Report Schalke 04 June 10, 2010 4:42 PM BST
Hope he plays like Boris today
Report Schalke 04 June 10, 2010 6:14 PM BST
next bet: (Tennis) Murray to bt Fish 2-0 @ 1.67 - £8.64 to win £5.50
Report Northbouy June 11, 2010 7:58 AM BST
you are now going to stake 27.80 to win 50 p
Report Schalke 04 June 11, 2010 2:07 PM BST
next bet: (Tennis) R.Nadal to bt F.Lopez 2-0 @ 2.04 - £27.80 to win £27.47
Report Northbouy June 11, 2010 2:23 PM BST
or maybe not then.
Report Schalke 04 June 11, 2010 2:36 PM BST
Next bet: Mexico DNB to bt S.Africa @ 1.84 - £82 to win £65.44
Report Northbouy June 11, 2010 2:44 PM BST
ttt
Report General Midwinter June 11, 2010 3:03 PM BST
Oh dear - 04 when will you learn that any system that requires you to bet your entire bank on the outcome of a single event isn't worth the 4 seconds that it took to devise it.

Congrats though on picking a nice low variance bet like laying the home team in the opening match of a World Cup. Laugh
Report Trevh June 11, 2010 3:24 PM BST
GL Schalke, you might have to do it again later though if DNB.
Report Schalke 04 June 11, 2010 3:43 PM BST
General

I don't think you have been reading the thread properly ... this is now the 5th bet of a £135 bank, and if you look a bit more closely I have not put my "entire" bank on any bet
Report General Midwinter June 11, 2010 3:56 PM BST
04 Your entire remaining bank is currently 82.00, you have bet it all on this one match.

Are you really this stupid?
Report General Midwinter June 11, 2010 4:07 PM BST
£40 start

0.00p / £0.00 / £0.00 / £0.00 / £82.00 / £14.00 - Total in Banks - £82.00 plus some change.

Stake Increase £4.93 .. 1p / 3p / 9p / 30p / £1 / £3.50 .. current (£0.54)

240. (Darts) Dudbridge to bt Haydon @ 2/5 - £0.94 - lost
241. (Tennis) Stosur to bt Schiavone @ 1.99 - £2.82 to win £2.65 - lost
242. (Tennis) Nadal to bt Soderling 3-0 @ 2.58 - £8.46 to win £12.70 - WON
243. (Tennis) Baghdatis/Gasquet DOUBLE - £0.95 to win £0.60 - lost
244. (Tennis) Mur/Mur to bt Que/Lip @ 4/5 - £2.85 to win £2.28 - WON
245 Some bet - 90p Lost
246 Some other bet - 2 quid or so - Lost
247 Some random bet - 8 quid - Lost
248 Some other random bet - nearly 30 quid - Lost
249 Lay the hosts in WC opening match FOR MY ENTIRE ROLL apart from an odd 14 quid - ????
Report Northbouy June 11, 2010 4:16 PM BST
LOL
Report Northbouy June 11, 2010 4:17 PM BST
oh dear, 1-0.  best you can hope for is DNB.
Report General Midwinter June 11, 2010 4:18 PM BST
Squeaky bum time Shocked
Report Rocket to the FACE June 11, 2010 4:41 PM BST
o0h 1-1
Report General Midwinter June 11, 2010 4:57 PM BST
Lucky, lucky 04.
Report Northbouy June 11, 2010 4:58 PM BST
hmmmm
Report Schalke 04 June 11, 2010 5:34 PM BST
£82 is not an "entire" bank when the Total Bank is £135 ... jesus christ !
Report General Midwinter June 11, 2010 5:58 PM BST
Put the full table up then...
Report Schalke 04 June 11, 2010 6:20 PM BST
next bet: (Tennis) Sela to bt Schuettler @ 1.5 - £82 to win £38.95
Report rod hull June 11, 2010 7:49 PM BST
rod hull Joined: 18 May 06
Replies: 1650 30 May 10 01:58 
this is going to be SO funny when it all goes wrong....it doesnt matter WHAT you say schalke, it WILL go wrong.


i dont want to say i told you so but....
Report henke June 11, 2010 7:52 PM BST
gone
Report Rocket to the FACE June 11, 2010 7:53 PM BST
is that it??
Report rod hull June 11, 2010 7:57 PM BST
no rocket to the face, he will start another thread doing the exact same theory. and will lose again. he has done it lots of times.

to be honest though, it would be good to hear his thoughts on why this didnt work despite all the advice and tips that it would fail.

he was determined that it would work and wouldnt accept that long term he would hit a run of losers that would wipe him out.
Report henke June 11, 2010 7:57 PM BST
£14 left
Report Rocket to the FACE June 11, 2010 8:23 PM BST
unlucky schalke.

you were told, but there's no harm in finding out for yourself. will this be a lesson though? or fuel for another one of your threads?

hopefully you'll learn and use your strengths in a different approach.

what's your plan now?
Report Rocket to the FACE June 11, 2010 8:25 PM BST
and by strenghts i mean your sheer persistence, meticulous staking/baking/record keeping, eye for detail etc.

It can all be used if you adopt another approach.
Report curlywurly June 11, 2010 8:49 PM BST
and by strenghts i mean your sheer persistence, meticulous staking/baking/record keeping, eye for detail etc.

yeah he'd make someone a good secretary
Report Rocket to the FACE June 11, 2010 9:28 PM BST
Or a good baker Laugh
Report curlywurly June 11, 2010 9:34 PM BST
Laugh

what price schalke to return (in 6 months) with a brand new, never been tried before 7 bank system
Report Trevh June 11, 2010 10:17 PM BST
Hard luck Schalke, but it was inevitable, if you want an  idea to get you started in how to put your skills to another use let me know, it won't involve pure gambling and predictions though, so no gambling 'kicks' as such are involved, more watching markets and time consuming.
Report structuredbet June 11, 2010 10:38 PM BST
Its probably appropriate for Lori to step in at this point and put down some sage words coupled with the final stats on this challenge.

I really do hope that this doesn't knock you too hard. So many people have tried to point out that this, and variations around this form of gambling, would almost inevitably lead to this end.

All the best.
Report Rocket to the FACE June 11, 2010 10:52 PM BST
^^ i also hope that this f*cker of a thread has not been a total waste to you, schalke.
Report h0rnets1988 June 12, 2010 12:48 AM BST
LMAO its over with god dam it, i was just starting to like it as well
Report General Midwinter June 12, 2010 2:06 AM BST
As soon as I came in and saw 14 new posts I knew what had happened.

I am soooo going to bump this thread for the next 10 years.

structuredbetIts probably appropriate for Lori to step in at this point and put down some sage words coupled with the final stats on this challenge.

Well one thing's a 1.01 near certainty that 04 won't be returning to update the final table. He always seems to mysteriously vanish from the forum when he goes broke.
Report General Midwinter June 12, 2010 2:08 AM BST
Schalke 04 £82 is not an "entire" bank when the Total Bank is £135 ... jesus christ !

Oh wait a minute, you should still have £53 left thenLaugh
Report h0rnets1988 June 12, 2010 2:15 AM BST
I did actually like the way he had banks though and how he did it, i want him to come back and tell me what i should do from a tenner Cool
Report General Midwinter June 12, 2010 6:26 AM BST
The problem is that no amount of banks or jiggling with banks, betting methods or staking plans will make bets that are struck at below expected value profitable in the long term.

It's like trying to overcome the house edge at roulette, or any other casino game - can't be done - not now, not ever.

If you have no idea whether or not the bet you have struck is +ev then you shouldn't be making it.

Whether or not any particular bet wins is, in the long term, irrelevant - value is key. Make value bets and the winnings will take care of themselves.

The only exception to this rule is if you are intending to trade out of the bet before it closes - but here you have to be certain that the likelihood of the market moving in the direction you need will happen with sufficient frequency and degree to make this trade a long-term winning proposition over a large number of bets.

It's value again - just thinly disguised.
Report Rafael Nadal June 12, 2010 9:33 AM BST
Red rag to a bull bringing up value, this should get him to break cover.
Report General Midwinter June 12, 2010 10:50 AM BST
Worth a try anyway Happy
Report catfloppo June 12, 2010 3:12 PM BST
Each of Shalke's threads serve as perfect illustrations to the would-be gambler of the importance of value betting in the development of a long-term winning strategy.

It is simply astonishing that he still doesn't get it.
Report General Midwinter June 12, 2010 4:03 PM BST
Willful ignorance imo.
Report Northbouy June 13, 2010 1:30 PM BST
is this thread done with Sulk04 ?
Report Rocket to the FACE June 13, 2010 1:34 PM BST
i'm not suprised he's dissapeared. i'd be p*ssed off as well if i'd spent all that time and effort and then lost it all
Report General Midwinter June 13, 2010 2:51 PM BST
I think that it's the fact that he's been told repeatedly that he would lose the lot that really annoys him.

Whatever - it's standard for Sulker04 (thanks Morrigan) to update his threads in meticulous (indeed nauseating) detail when he's winning, call everyone who tries to help him a bunch of idiots, and then to insta-vanish when he loses.

No doubt he'll return in  a few months with another crackpot short odds scheme.
Report catfloppo June 13, 2010 3:04 PM BST
i'm not suprised he's dissapeared. i'd be p*ssed off as well if i'd spent all that time and effort and then lost it all

He must be used to it by now :p
Report General Midwinter June 14, 2010 4:36 PM BST
Bumped for epic failure.
Report brendanuk1 June 15, 2010 10:50 PM BST
and so it came to pass.....

THE END!
Report rod hull June 15, 2010 11:00 PM BST
How long before he starts another one though, saying winners are more important than value?

LaughLaughLaugh
Report brendanuk1 June 15, 2010 11:03 PM BST
maybe he will look at the good genuine advice he has been given and reasses his approach.

Every fool knows you need 7 banks to make martingale work!
Report h0rnets1989 June 15, 2010 11:08 PM BST
Schalke if your reading this come back i would like you to answer a few questions and give me a couple of tips, im not a hater like these its bad that all this hard work has gone now Cry
Report Rueben June 16, 2010 6:08 PM BST
hornets get a ******* grip
Report h0rnets1989 June 16, 2010 8:19 PM BST
No Rueben you fool i want to ask some questions
Report rod hull June 16, 2010 8:42 PM BST
hornets why dont you start another challenge? its been a day or two now.
Report h0rnets1989 June 16, 2010 9:59 PM BST
Nope i dont want to start one at the moment
Report brendanuk1 June 17, 2010 10:35 PM BST
how much of the banks are left?
Report h0rnets1989 June 17, 2010 10:37 PM BST
None diddly squat i believe or he would be on here
Report brendanuk1 June 17, 2010 10:55 PM BST
oh thought there might be few quid left or well? Cry
Report h0rnets1989 June 17, 2010 11:04 PM BST
Might be a few quid but he must of blown that as hes not back
Report structuredbet June 17, 2010 11:07 PM BST
circa 14 quid remains

schalke, you'd get alot more respect if you did post some finishing words on this thread

after all, you have had 3 months worth of fun/hobby for 26 quid, which is alot less than most peoples hobbies cost. this system doesnt work, which may be hard to take, but at least you have learnt that lesson for almost zero loss. most people, including myself, have had much more expensive lessons.
Report h0rnets1989 June 17, 2010 11:32 PM BST
I want him to come back and answer some questions for me to help me out with my challenge kind of like this but he wont
Report Rafael Nadal June 21, 2010 9:03 PM BST
All I want to know is why people keep ttt-ing his threads.

Relentlessssssssssssssssssss
Report brendanuk1 June 21, 2010 9:23 PM BST
some good lessons here
Report easykc1 June 22, 2010 2:38 AM BST
the great man will return ,hes just putting his new system together,nailed on bankers i believe its gonna be named
Report Northbouy June 22, 2010 3:12 AM BST
Schalke punts by the theory that it is the result that matters not the odds.

therefore it is timely we consider these points.

---  Result  = lost his 40
---  Odds that this challenge would have been successful  = 1000-1

No real surprises there.
Report h0rnets1989 June 25, 2010 2:58 AM BST
Laugh
Report h0rnets1989 June 26, 2010 2:08 AM BST
[:x]
Report tobermory June 26, 2010 3:44 AM BST
tbf he really made that £40 last
Report Northbouy June 28, 2010 1:08 PM BST
will he be back though.
Report General Midwinter June 28, 2010 1:20 PM BST
"will he be back though."

1.01
Report General Midwinter July 2, 2010 7:20 AM BST
Value Bump
Report The Sports Investor July 2, 2010 6:00 PM BST
Schalke 04     04 Feb 10 13:55 
Well, got £40 left that I am using for betting, tried so many different things in betting and this is the last ..Laugh. the last few days I have turned the £40 into £42.81.LaughLaugh

what a kn0bhead.
Report Northbouy July 3, 2010 3:59 PM BST
everything he tried has been the same  Laugh
Report General Midwinter July 6, 2010 6:36 PM BST
Lest we forget....
Report General Midwinter July 12, 2010 12:27 PM BST
Happy Monday!
Report brendanuk1 July 12, 2010 1:32 PM BST
keep the candle burning
Report rod hull July 12, 2010 3:00 PM BST
1.01 schalke is just finalising plans for his comeback. an extra bank!
Report brendanuk1 July 12, 2010 3:51 PM BST
an extra bank might just work!
Report General Midwinter July 14, 2010 11:23 AM BST
I have a beump
Report General Midwinter July 22, 2010 8:07 PM BST
Can't have this off page 1
Report Northbouy July 23, 2010 4:13 PM BST
has he been back yet?
Report General Midwinter July 23, 2010 4:52 PM BST
Still sulking and trying to scrounge up enough 10p pieces dropped down the back of the passenger seat to start his next glorious adventure imo.
Report General Midwinter August 2, 2010 4:13 PM BST
Can't have this on page 2.
Report rod hull August 2, 2010 5:13 PM BST
oh, General Midwinter, i thought it was schalke back when i saw (1 new) on this thread.Sad
Report General Midwinter August 10, 2010 2:46 AM BST
Page 2 will never do...
Report brendanuk1 August 19, 2010 9:51 PM BST
from chit chat


http://snookerbacker.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/
Report General Midwinter August 20, 2010 2:42 AM BST
Can't get that link to work - try this... http://snookerbacker.files.wordpress.com

From the above link -

"No, I don’t bet at all anymore, I enjoyed it while I did but my betting days are over."

"I am well known on the Betfair forum to many hundreds of people"

He forgot to add 'as an utter donkey'.
Report disco dennis September 14, 2010 10:23 PM BST
TTT
Report rod hull September 15, 2010 7:39 AM BST
oh disco dennis, i thought it was schalke back with an extra bank!
Report General Midwinter September 15, 2010 7:42 AM BST
Excellent bump imo.
Report catfleppo September 15, 2010 9:40 AM BST
Let's be grateful no-one brought that thread back up about why people keep bringing his threads back up.
Report Lori January 5, 2011 11:30 AM GMT
ttt for swift tuttle. Sort by "newest first" page 16 for the first post where I break down the various banks. Feel free to browse the rest of the thread to see how Schalke got there and numerous decent arguments/discussions.
Report Little Des January 5, 2011 2:44 PM GMT
Can't be bothered to read all 47 pages.

Did the Premium Charge get him in the end ?
Report brendanuk1 January 5, 2011 2:54 PM GMT
No a black swan, or matbe it was grey, or even white Laugh
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