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01 Nov 09 08:20
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Does anyone remember that free All Weather system that RSB (Racing System Builder)used to include in their free starter pack?

Shown below is an All Weather system that I've constructed (aka backfitted) today. Additional rules have been shamelessly added to increase profitability. Each new rule has been highlighted and below each step is the resultant profit figure after the latest rule has been applied.

The system runs from November to March and I fully expect it will have gone mammaries up by the time we put the clocks forward next year. I'll keep you posted.

Sadly, or perhaps fortuitously, there are no qualifiers today.

[pre]Step 1
Race Category
All Weather
H'cap or non
Handicaps
Placing LR
First

Bets Wins WinStrike SP_PL Places PlaceStrike
8642 1523 17.62% -1211.52 2119 24.52%



Step 2
Race Category
All Weather
H'cap or non
Handicaps
Placing LR
First ,
OR vs Last Race
6 more compared to last race


Bets Wins WinStrike SP_PL Places PlaceStrike
1961 424 21.62% -5.51 522 26.62%


Step 3
Race Category
All Weather
Race Distance
Between 5f and 7f

H'cap or non
Handicaps
Placing LR
First ,
OR vs Last Race
6 more compared to last race

Bets Wins WinStrike SP_PL Places PlaceStrike
896 201 22.43% 82.58 221 24.67%

Step 4
Race Category
All Weather
Race Distance
Between 5f and 7f
H'cap or non
Handicaps
Placing LR
First ,
Horse Age
Between 3 and 8 years old

OR vs Last Race
6 more compared to last race

Bets Wins WinStrike SP_PL Places PlaceStrike
798 190 23.81% 138.99 196 24.56%

Step 5
Race Category
All Weather
Race Distance
Between 5f and 7f
H'cap or non
Handicaps
Placing LR
First ,
Horse Age
Between 3 and 8 years old
OR vs Last Race
6 more compared to last race
Compare v LR
Class - Same


Bets Wins WinStrike SP_PL Places PlaceStrike
435 120 27.59% 145.58 105 24.14%

Step 6
Race Category
All Weather
Race Distance
Between 5f and 7f
H'cap or non
Handicaps
Placing LR
First ,
Date (Month of Year)
January February March November December

Horse Age
Between 3 and 8 years old
OR vs Last Race
6 more compared to last race
Compare v LR
Class - Same

Bets Wins WinStrike SP_PL Places PlaceStrike
277 88 31.77% 159.62 70 25.27%

Additional information
E/W Qualifiers
Wins Placed SP Points E/W Strike
209 59 112 208.48 53.59%
Odds above 2/1. 5 or more runners.[/pre]

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By:
know all
When: 01 Nov 09 08:27
back fitting a system does not seem to work when you then place money on it,
lesson no1 in punting
By:
top2rated
When: 01 Nov 09 08:45
know all

Couldn't agree more. Furthermore, betting on the resultant selections usually begins with a losing run greater than any that was previously recorded!

Anyway as zipper would say, "it's only a bit of fun".

By the way, I've used horseracebase.com to construct the system.

For the benefit (sic) of anyone that uses the site I've put the system in the Shared Systems Area (system ID 190) so that interested parties can be alerted to any of the system's selections should they so wish.
By:
know all
When: 01 Nov 09 09:10
good luck with it
By:
ijs
When: 01 Nov 09 10:20
wot a load of drivel
By:
TELL DEL
When: 01 Nov 09 10:54
know all 01 Nov 09:27


back fitting a system does not seem to work when you then place money on it,

trouble is, you can collect on past results !
By:
TELL DEL
When: 01 Nov 09 10:56
trouble is, you can't collect on past results - meant to say !
By:
top2rated
When: 01 Nov 09 15:43
© ebasson61 15 May 18:44

ijs = irritable jowel syndrome

:^0
By:
lippy
When: 01 Nov 09 16:02
OR vs Last Race
6 more compared to last race


what does that mean
By:
top2rated
When: 03 Nov 09 02:53
lippy

Sorry for not replying sooner but haven't revisited this thread since my last post on 01/11/09.

OR is Official Rating. The link below may be of interest.

http://www.britishhorseracing.com/resources/media/ratings.asp
By:
top2rated
When: 03 Nov 09 03:10
Bet No. 1

03/11/09 Kemp 2.50 Lithaam
By:
top2rated
When: 04 Nov 09 07:02
Bet No. 1 03/11/09 Kemp 2.50 Lithaam Non-runner

Bet No.2 04/11/09 Kemp 8.50 Final Drive
By:
top2rated
When: 05 Nov 09 05:18
Bet No. 1 03/11/09 Kemp 2.50 Lithaam Non-runner

Bet No.2 [/b 04/11/09 Kemp 8.50 Final Drive [b] WON 5.57 (ISP 7/2)

No qualifiers today.
By:
xxlandofsmilesxx
When: 05 Nov 09 06:05
RSB doesn't exist any more.
By:
Tightfisted
When: 05 Nov 09 10:46
A nice winner for naps comp! :(
By:
top2rated
When: 05 Nov 09 14:46
xxlandodsmilesxx

I mentioned RSB merely because the free system that came with the starter pack was based on All Weather penalty carriers which is what some of the qualifiers from my system will be.

You can still view the system at http://www.rsbweb.com/IE/IE_index.htm - just click on Learn and then on RSB Booklet if you're interested.
By:
top2rated
When: 06 Nov 09 03:14
Bet No. 3

06/11/09 Wolv 9.20 Rosie Says No
By:
top2rated
When: 07 Nov 09 08:42
Bet No. 1 03/11/09 Kemp 2.50 Lithaam Non-runner
Bet No.2 04/11/09 Kemp 8.50 Final Drive WON 5.57 (ISP 7/2)
Bet No. 3 06/11/09 Wolv 9.20 Rosie Says No LOST

Bet No. 4 07/11/09 Dundalk 7.30 Maybe Grace
By:
top2rated
When: 02 Apr 10 09:32
This is how the system fared.

To £10 level stakes @ Betfair SP

There were 28 winners from 117 qualifiers returning £905.40 (5% commission deducted).
Minus £890.00 (89 losers) = £15.40 profit.

For the record the winners are listed below.

[pre]Bet No. Date Time Course Qualifier Result BSP
2 04/11/2009 20:50 Kempton Final Drive (IRE) 1st 5.57
9 21/11/2009 18:00 Kempton Earlsmedic 1st 4.13
12 25/11/2009 18:50 Kempton Lesleys Choice 1st 4.90
14 28/11/2009 13:10 Lingfield Spinning Bailiwick 1st 1.95
18 06/12/2009 14:30 Lingfield Imprimis Tagula (IRE) 1st 7.31
21 10/12/2009 18:30 Kempton Topcroft 1st 2.01
31 28/12/2009 16:45 Wolverhampton Imprimis Tagula (IRE) 1st 6.50
41 07/01/2010 13:10 Southwell Harlech Castle 1st 3.79
44 09/01/2010 14:55 Kempton Tiddliwinks 1st 2.50
48 12/01/2010 15:50 Southwell Elusive Warrior (USA) 1st 12.36
49 13/01/2010 18:15 Kempton Admiral Cochrane (IRE) 1st 2.06
50 14/01/2010 13:50 Southwell Boogie Waltzer 1st 3.22
51 14/01/2010 15:20 Southwell Transmission (IRE) 1st 4.20
58 20/01/2010 19:30 Kempton Ejeed (USA) 1st 4.50
63 22/01/2010 14:00 Lingfield Divine Force 1st 2.96
67 24/01/2010 16:05 Kempton Autumn Blades (IRE) 1st 8.71
68 25/01/2010 13:45 Wolverhampton Marosh (FR) 1st 2.19
70 27/01/2010 16:30 Lingfield Headache 1st 4.70
73 27/01/2010 19:10 Kempton Love Delta (USA) 1st 2.97
75 29/01/2010 18:40 Wolverhampton Bishopbriggs (USA) 1st 7.31
81 04/02/2010 17:50 Wolverhampton Greyfriarschorista 1st 1.40
83 06/02/2010 13:25 Lingfield Stanley Goodspeed 1st 6.40
84 08/02/2010 15:30 Wolverhampton Smalljohn 1st 3.09
95 18/02/2010 16:05 Southwell Wheres Reiley (USA) 1st 6.40
96 19/02/2010 15:00 Lingfield Pipers Piping (IRE) 1st 2.57
100 24/02/2010 19:00 Kempton Sutton Veny (IRE) 1st 2.69
102 25/02/2010 20:10 Kempton Ocean Legend (IRE) 1st 4.26
104 03/03/2010 17:00 Wolverhampton Straboe (USA) 1st 2.65
[/pre]
By:
Tightfisted
When: 02 Apr 10 22:08
You would be better off following Alan Keytes! Less painful... ;)
By:
Tightfisted
When: 07 Apr 10 19:17
3 Steps to Heaven?

Alan Keytes 818 naps since 26-Oct-2007 all to a £10 flat stake

£0.71 LOSS BACKING (before comm)

1) £269.27 PROFIT BACKING AT LESS THAN 2.01 bsp (before comm)

2) £324.68 PROFIT LAYING above 2.0 (before comm)

3) £55.40 PROFIT LAYING AT LESS THAN 5.0

All 3 combined and increasing stake by Min £2 after a loser,

Net PROFIT £1994.91 @ 5% comm.
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