i losed my bank for betfair server problem..

Just got to take it on the chin, my friend. Hope your luck turns

all this beacuse i had a negative balance..

if i have a negative balance i can do nothing

i wanted lay for a all red or all grenn..

no...because theri service sign a negative balance i can do nothing

ffs betfair

**ers

This has happened before (a -ve balance) on the FGS MSE fiasco.

Long story, but in the end betfair paid up all the -ve balances (basically voided all losing bets) as they do not operate a credit account, which seems to be what you have, if I'm reading it right.

Ring betfair, and demand that your account be settled to a point pre-race. Your account should never be allowed to go in to -ve.

this is the situation

i trade whit all my bank an horse (for example)at@11..1000euros

the odds go down...at@10 i layed for 1100

i have a gain of 100 euros...on all horses

now...

i back other horse..1000euros at @9
this odds go up
i layed 900 at @10

now my situation is perfect draw

now i back another horse ...1000 at@12

now..
the first horse non runners

my situation is change..now i don't have a perfect draw..but -100euros
my bank was 1000

but now real bank is 900

but i just back 1000 on the other horse

stop
my balance is negative
i can do nothing


i can not lay the last traded horse

the horse lose..i lose 1000

more 100


i must pay to betfair 100


(this is an example,but this is my situation)

i spoken whit betfair

they says that the negative balance is my responsability..
i had to deposit

in this mode i can layed..if their server sign a negative balance i can do nothing

in this mode i lose and betfair lose

very very intelligent

but to be fair eagle, betfair have infact allowed him to bet with money he doesn't have, hence being -£100.

Surely this is against their terms to allow people to bet with money that "isn't theirs"?

No they haven't . He had the funds when he placed the bet. It's due to the non runner that he got a negative balance. In case like this you can call Betfair and they will credit your account with enough money to trade out of the position.
I know it probably wouldn't have been time enough to do this if the non runner was withdrawn just as the race was starting , but in most cases there will be enough time ....

no..but this is an error of their server

you betfair pay for your problem..not i
imo

i push click click click on betangel for all red and stop

but i can not

jacopo , what if the bet won ? Would you have given your winnings back to Betfair/the layer ?

You ended up with a bet on a horse at roughly the correct market price. You just have to live with that.

I see you don't want to answer my question.

eddie...no.

but for one reason no

because for their problems i losed 3 things

if now i win.i want all


but an year ago,and now,i would want pay(PAY)an insurance

i will win,i will lose...not interest
void...i want pay an insurance for have all void in those situations


no..jesterday i never refund money at betfair..but i'm serious...you are serious and i'm serious
you "**" money other 2 things for their problems

i never won when there was a problem

but i would want an insurance

If you're putting your bank on the line with each trade you should have made it a priority to know the rules. It's happened to you before and there are often late withdrawals in horse racing for various reasons so you should have known the risks. Sorry for your loss but it was inevitable if you use your entire balance on each trade.

i backed prelive..and layed in live

an favorite non runners

the rest is easy to imagine(my horses traded win)


i was very angry

but for a simple reason
ok..i wrong..but why you betfair allow that in live anyone backed the fav and keep the fav at short odds??

why?

if you keep the fav(non runner)at short odds,anyone backed other horses at high odds

no regular this

ok..you can not cancel the non runner..ok...but you can do the odds @1000
in this mode any**er on betfair not back other horses at very high odds

no regular this

why betfair don't closed the account of this people?those is **ers

jacopo25, regarding your negative balance, I don't think this has anything to do with a server problem.
This is a design flaw of Betfair. I think it is because they use shortcuts in calculating someone's balance to make the site faster. This is a good thing, but they should allow any trade that lowers a users liability regardless of their zero or negative balance.

It happens to me regularly that I can't trade out due to a zero balance. In my case I have bets on dozens of different markets though. Have to cancel one, so that there is money available in my account again.

Although Betfair are not going to get involved with insurance, it's a good point. I trade in total goals and over/under markets. Sometimes I hedge my risk across the two markets. However in certain scenarios this could be disastrous. If I lay over 1.5 goals and back 2 goals or more, and the match gets abandoned when two goals have been scored, I lose one bet and the winning bet is voided. I asked Betfair if I would be refunded in this case, and they said it is at their discretion. Some very clear rules about this would be nice. I know it's rare, but over a long enough time frame it will happen.

Deposit enough money to cover your activities and you won't have this problem.
You can use your Australian wallet as a reserve tank of money, if you have done the KYC process.

The point here is that it is not Betfair's problem. It's your problem and you have to adapt your trading to avoid things like this. Just keep a little more money in your account , but hide that extra money in a long term market lay , something like a 1.01 lay on the no hopers in the English Premier League win market.
The extra funds will then be available for you to use in situations like this with just a click with the mouse.

If you trade close to the off, it is inevitable that sooner or later you will have an involuntary bet on a horse.
Internet connection can fail, computer fail, BF site crash, sudden need to go to the toilet...

You should... but sometimes you can't.