Question to all General Betting forumites !!

a value bet apparantly

Both barrols!!

apparently take the stand ....

Think I will get barred from the bookies if I take what people are saying off the forum.

I'd say there's one very good reason why they'd never bar you Schalke.

Amazing how no-one knows the answer lol .....

Mikael D'Haguenet 15 Mar 12:47

I'd say there's one very good reason why they'd never bar you Schalke.

Yup, my stakes are so low at the moment they wouldn't bother about me .....

ID

ID lol ... well no, because you have already been at the counter which rules out that answer

It's been ages since I collected money from a bookies counter. Do you know how hard it is to find value bets with those boys?

clueless, you all know the answer but don't say it, which just makes you all complete fuds ....

Person placing the bet does have to be the same person collecting the bet

In your case Schalke, you probably have to give them a "pound" then they can give you money back for your change, probably about 73 p.

Arch Stanton 15 Mar 12:59


Person placing the bet does have to be the same person collecting the bet

wrong

Schalke 04 15 Mar 12:43


In order for you to collect money over a bookies counter what must you give them?


Money !! Or a lucky 15 with 1 winner @ 1.44

You must give them a winning betting slip, no point in handing over a losing slip, but some people on here seem to think that you can get money from a losing betting slip because it was a value bet ...... would love to see them in action trying to argue their case with the staff :D lol

Three people could all back the same three selections to level, say £100, stakes. One loses, one breaks even and the other shows a profit. How can this be?

Morigan is takin the p!ss becuase I tipped Federer to win 2-0 last night, the score ended 2-1 to Federer but Morrigan is still takin the p!ss because I fancied it and it lost .... but then on my thread this morning he said the result of a bet doesn't matter, as long as you got a good bet.

Schalke 04 15 Mar 13:39


You must give them a winning betting slip

£1 lucky 15 with 1 winner @ 2/5 returns £1.80 - so its not a winning slip is it ?? But its deffo value coz its double the odds

You can't give a slip over that has no return whatsoever on it, it must have some sort of returns ...

bvut many on this forum think that if you have Chelsea to bt Inter @ 10/1 with £5 on it but they lost 3-0 can collect winnings becuase they got a good price.

Schalke 04 is correct

Schalke 04 15 Mar 13:39

You must give them a winning betting slip

£1 lucky 15 with 1 winner @ 2/5 returns £1.80 - so its not a winning slip is it ?? But its deffo value coz its double the odds

Yes it is, it is classed as a returning winning slip, just like if you placed a football coupon for £100 but only collected £10, it is still a winning coupon.

No it isnt ! Its a winning slip for the bookies

if betting to win was a short -term pastime then 'pricing' a trade doesn't come into the equation.
If you trade for a long-term gain then 'sequencing' matters!
Why?
Your 'pricing' you play at has to equate your strike-rate (per 100)otherwise you are only drip feeding your money away.

the idea behind it is that if you keep backing £5 at 10/1 when it should be 4/6 you will win plenty long term surely even you can see that

The thing is Schalke no one can pick a certain winner before the event but the best punters can perceive value. If for example we make a book on what is the bonus ball in a 40 number lottery the true odds are 0.025 so anyone backing 1.03 or laying 1.02 is getting value regardless of the result.

I've seen you back £5.37 to win 5p on a 1.01 shot. You obviously have no sense of value not because of the odds and small amount you back but because the extra 37p you put on which will win you nothing so that's 0.37p you've thrown away if it was a true 1.01 shot. In fact I believe a £4.51 bet would get a 5p return so that's 0.86p you've thrown away. If all you ever did was back 1.01 shots even the very best gamblers couldn't make a profit throwing that margin away.

I don't know how to work out value, does anyone have an idiots guide?

plus as a general rule never play with more than 2.5% of your bank in any one trade......even long term winners have bad runs!

How do you know if something is value, how do you know what the true price should be?

Thats the tony - feck it and back what you fancy is my tip ;-)

You can only tell value the old fashioned way tony.

I'd only be able to notice if a price was way out of line, I'll have to google "spotting value the old fashioned way"

Always make sure you give them a odd numbered bet, say 5.26 and hand them a tenner than way your gaurenteed to get money back

Great advice

Schalke 04 15 Mar 12:43

In order for you to collect money over a bookies counter what must you give them?

A summons :-)

receipt from the fobt