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All in vain
31 Jan 10 12:08
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Stables have all sorts of tricks they sometimes use. Any clues as to what to look out for? Don't mind losing a bit on runners that really "give it a go". Sarcastic answers not appreciated.

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John Leslie
When: 31 Jan 10 12:13
Give up trying to work it out. The majority of horses run on their merits and the buzzers/non-buzzers will even themselves out just like luck/bad luck does. People always get their pants in a twist on here when drifters run poorly but huge drifters win races day in day out, it's just the mugs choose to ignore it when this happens.
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Moon Light
When: 31 Jan 10 12:59
The problem is that you don't benefit from the drift unless you wait late. But if you wait late you get hurt by the gamble shortening one.
By:
askari1
When: 31 Jan 10 15:03
Put yourselves in the shoes of the owners. How much do you want to win? Is your aim to defray training fees? Do you want to win a race w/ good prize money or will you feel you have to go for a betting touch in any sort of race?

If you want to win a lot, you might want the price to drift before you put your bets on. Alternatively, you might want to take advantage of a good morning price for a smaller outlay and smaller reward.

If you research the betting patterns of yards and even owners, you will begin a clear difference between certain 'gambling' yards and stables where little can be read into the price, whether drift or steam. You can see how well the horse did in the race by keeping records of the IR price.

Mostly, though, by the time this market move has been picked up by the broader market, any value in the price is gone.
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Lori
When: 31 Jan 10 15:38
If you lose money, just start crying and sue the owners.
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larry grayson
When: 31 Jan 10 16:08
You'll probably find that most are trying but it's the one's that aren't that you need to know. Unfortunately it's only with hindsight usually that you can spot the real non triers. The ones that drift drastically just before the off, miss the break, run wide on the bend then if there's the remotest chance of winning are quickly brought back inside to run up the back of horses in front. All accompanied by (apparently) furious riding by the jockey.
Stewards however seem to think this is quite normal.
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