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Simon Chat
09 Nov 09 19:59
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Did a bet each way in my local bookies on a horse. It came second but the girl paid me out as a winner. I didn't say anything but now feel a bit bad. Anyone had anything similar?
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Report AceyJC November 9, 2009 8:02 PM GMT
You are sc*m, and that girl will potentially lose her job. I doubt you'll be welcome back either.

HTH.
Report Super Hans November 9, 2009 8:07 PM GMT
Lol. I bet you did`nt expect that.
Report Simon Chat November 9, 2009 8:13 PM GMT
hth?
Report Simon Chat November 9, 2009 8:17 PM GMT
should I go back to shop to return money?
Report Baggers November 9, 2009 8:23 PM GMT
Hope that helps
Report layer1982 November 9, 2009 8:26 PM GMT
Well done I say they are thieving**bags anyways...
Report silverwasp November 9, 2009 8:34 PM GMT
Do the right thing and give it back.
Report Special Cargo November 9, 2009 8:36 PM GMT
Go back and ask them if they have ever stiffed a customer on a bet.

If they say yes, then don't give it back.



If they say no , they are lying so don't give it back.
Report silverwasp November 9, 2009 8:38 PM GMT
You can never justify taking something that doesn't belong to you
Report paddys revenge November 9, 2009 8:51 PM GMT
If you buy something from a shop and you leave, then realise afterwards you have been short changed you will have no chance of getting back if you went back in at a later time and say you short changed me earlier.

Swings and rounabouts....bo!!ocks to em!
Report plainlazy November 9, 2009 8:57 PM GMT
a girl in hills paid me £100 too much on a roulette ticket...like a prat i gave it her back thinking she might lose her job ..
she wasnt even that grateful and i never saw her in the shop again....so my advice is keep it..i would if it happened again
Report silverwasp November 9, 2009 9:06 PM GMT
How grateful did you expect her to be?
Report silverwasp November 9, 2009 9:07 PM GMT
We all dislike the bookies buy dishonesty doesn't pay
Report Simon Chat November 9, 2009 9:21 PM GMT
I would normally be honest. I have been paid out wrong in past, not to this extent and gave it back and the guy actually had a go at me and said it was right payout and stop being a smart arse. I explained why it was wrong and gave money back, complete lack of gratitude on his part so I always thought I wouldn't bother next time but now that its happened I do feel a bit bad. Don't feel bad for hills cos they are sc*m but don't want it to cost the girl her job or anything like that
Report Gerbs November 9, 2009 9:41 PM GMT
was it a big three shop or an independant
Report CLYDEBANK29 November 9, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
it wont cost her her job
Report CLYDEBANK29 November 9, 2009 9:45 PM GMT
likelihood is it will never be found out. Only a small sample of bets get rechecked
Report CLYDEBANK29 November 9, 2009 9:57 PM GMT
if you pay it back now it will get found out (if indeed the bet gets resettled ....she could trouser the cash herself) You would put her in a predicament. Admit to her bosses she made a stupid mistake or be dishonest.

You should have paid the cash back on the spot but seeing as you didn't best all round if you keep it.
Report YER MAN November 9, 2009 10:05 PM GMT
Simon Chat 09 Nov 23:21


I would normally be honest. I have been paid out wrong in past, not to this extent and gave it back and the guy actually had a go at me and said it was right payout and stop being a smart arse. I explained why it was wrong and gave money back, complete lack of gratitude on his part so I always thought I wouldn't bother next time but now that its happened I do feel a bit bad. Don't feel bad for hills cos they are sc*m but don't want it to cost the girl her job or anything like that




Gerbs 09 Nov 23:41


was it a big three shop or an independant

Thought maybe the phrase "Dont feel bad for hills cos they are s(um
might have given you a clue there!
Report u want some November 9, 2009 10:23 PM GMT
Tough, its her fault. Keep the money there's no way i'd give it back.
Report YER MAN November 9, 2009 10:25 PM GMT
Bet you'd be the first to squeal like a little girl if someone done you over for 100 quid though.

Feckin' hypocrit!!
Report bainnyboy November 9, 2009 10:34 PM GMT
Keep the doh. Most of the chains make over £50M profits per year they won't miss it. Girl WON'T get fired......
Report how do u mark your titleist?! November 9, 2009 10:34 PM GMT
dont give it back u wimp, the amount they steal of the mentally challenged on the FOBTS, about time some1 got some free money of em
Report thetitan November 9, 2009 10:34 PM GMT
give it to charity if you really want to be a saint...imo

alternatively could put it all on another horse, if it wins then great...if not then no worries
Report Simon Chat November 9, 2009 10:50 PM GMT
If I don't give it back I will donate money to charity. Would far rather cancer research put it to use than hills. I would like to know how likely it was that the error will get found out, I don't know how settlement works with these bookies. Also is it likely to have any repercussions for the girl? If it was an independent I would have given it back 100%. Its a big difference that its a big firm, they can swallow £200 without any problem at all and like people have said in the posts, they are quite happy to take money off people who can't afford to lose it
Report CLYDEBANK29 November 10, 2009 8:48 AM GMT
I was a bookie manager for five years. Admittedly it was a long time ago and new technology is in place but I never got a bet back from Head Office in five years. What the security department did was go through a fortnights business every 6 months or so.
Report CLYDEBANK29 November 10, 2009 8:55 AM GMT
I once paid out a £5rfc as a £10sfc. Only realised when I was cashing up because the bloke wrote the correct returns on the back of the slip. I also settled a footie acca as a winner muddling up Brentford with Bradford. Either that or the Hills initial screen info was incorrect and it was their mistake not mine (never quite understood how me and the punter could have both checked the results off the screen and both made exactly the same mistake)
Report Rocket to the FACE November 10, 2009 9:04 AM GMT
You'll give it back to them eventually anyway.
Report unionjack November 10, 2009 9:11 AM GMT
Donate the £100 to the Audrey Hepburn Children's Fund:-

http://www.audreyhepburn.com
Report dk1986 November 10, 2009 9:46 AM GMT
, I don't know how settlement works with these bookies. Also is it likely to have any repercussions for the girl?

Hard to comment without knowing how much she handed you. I'd hazard that their security department audit all bets with a payout of over £250, for example. Was this the case here? Their security department can access every shop till in the country centrally, so if it was big enough to trigger their interest, they'll have looked at it, seen the mistake, and she'll have been told. Would have to be a mistake costing a few hundred or more before being sacked came into the question, and when bets have large payouts, surely no worker doesn't check that the bet was entered into EPoS correctly.

You were mispaid because the bet was put into EPoS as a 'win' - rather than because it was worked out on the spot, for example (so the system expected to pay out the amount you received - she won't have shown a cash deficit). All re-translations and amended payments on bets are flagged up for security purposes, so if her mistake went unnoticed, amending the payment - even in their favour - would flag up a mistake she made (if it was low enough to escape the radar anyway). If the payment you received was say £80 it will forever go unnnoticed. She keeps here job, you were lucky. Keep the money.

Does that help? :)
Report Laying Like Maria November 10, 2009 9:51 AM GMT
Please check you change as any mistakes after leaving the counter can not be rectified.
Report curlywurly November 10, 2009 10:10 AM GMT
keep it they wont even notice it - god knows how many mistakes i made as a manager and none ever came back
Report 1..... November 10, 2009 10:14 AM GMT
f.uck giving it back you get ripped off by everyting these days taxes, government, supermarkets

if she loses her job, which she wont its her fault
Report 1..... November 10, 2009 10:14 AM GMT
f.uck giving it back you get ripped off by everyting these days taxes, government, supermarkets

if she loses her job, which she wont its her fault
Report john92 November 10, 2009 10:38 AM GMT
a bookie tried to rip me off of £1.57 the other week. no way i would give it back.
Report Mully November 10, 2009 10:45 AM GMT
Was the girl fit? Buy her a drink in town :x
Report Simon Chat November 10, 2009 12:31 PM GMT
Guys, thanks for all your posts. I have still not made my mind up 100%. I'd love to know if the error has been noticed. I think its probably more likely it wasn't than it was but I wouldn't stake much on it. Thanks in particular to CLYDEBANK for your helpful posts.

Mully - The girl was definitely not fit.

So its 11-2 in favour of people saying to keep the money so far. Anyone else got an opinion, please update the score.


Keep 11 Give it back 2
Report Lori November 10, 2009 12:41 PM GMT
In a casino I always used to give it back, it's on multiple cameras and the staff would probably have a mare finding it and they'd identify who made the mistake.

In the bookies, I wouldn't dream of giving back a penny unless there was some reason to believe that the staff would get the sack. In reality they say the staff will have to pay it back or get in trouble to play on your conscience, but they don't actually worry about the staff, they're just terrified that they might end up doing a few quid.

Bear in mind that they encourage losers to keep playing and cut winners off nearly instantly and ask yourself if these people would give your money back if the roles were reversed (They wouldnt)
Report Lori November 10, 2009 12:43 PM GMT
*I'd always give it back in a normal shop,it's specifically highstreet bookies I wouldnt. I even email bookies online if they make errors in my favour.
Report Rugbyleaguer November 10, 2009 1:31 PM GMT
Hillss once let someone lose over 2 million pounds without restricting him, a freind of a friend lost £30,000 on their online casion, yes its their fault ultimitely, but they ruin so many people's lifes, but don't dare try and win anything of them, your out like a shot.

Stuff the C*unts, just a few spins from the dolites, asylum seekers on the roulette machine will get it back. Keeep it and for once be happy you got one over on them. Girl will not lose her job in a million years.
Report hejik December 30, 2012 10:44 PM GMT
scandalous stuff
Report artie December 31, 2012 5:19 AM GMT
The problem is if you give the money back,you have identified yourself as (a)someone who knows the difference between a winner and a second,and (b)someone who can probably do simple arithmetic and calculate bets.i.e. A SHREWDIE in the eyes of the major bookmakers,snd you will probably be banned for life !
Report Deltâ December 31, 2012 2:53 PM GMT
artie the problem is your reply is 3 years out of date
hth
Report artie December 31, 2012 3:01 PM GMT
Yes.I didn't notice how old this thread was,but my comments still apply today !
Report middleman December 31, 2012 8:07 PM GMT
Give it back,karma is a biatch.
Report middleman December 31, 2012 8:09 PM GMT
Made the same mistake as Artie CryLaugh
Report Capt__F December 31, 2012 10:09 PM GMT
no point giving it back now she left and works for Moneyshop
Report getintheir January 5, 2013 6:15 PM GMT
did she give you a wink and say there you go big boy?
Report desperatemunter January 5, 2013 10:46 PM GMT
oh I thought it was new too
strange experience to suddenly have to re-frame it as ancient history
Report thecookiemonster January 6, 2013 12:29 AM GMT
give it to the dogs shelter
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