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1.23 Chelsea 7.6 Burnley 16
2.08 Brentford 3.85 Brighton 3.75
1.89 Aston Villa 3.8 Leeds 4.7
2.56 West Ham 3.8 Bournemouth 2.86
1.51 Manchester City 5.3 Newcastle 6.4
2.86 Sunderland 3.35 Fulham 2.78
4.4 Nottingham Forest 4.2 Liverpool 1.85
1.70 Crystal Palace 4.2 Wolves 5.7
6.4 Tottenham 4.3 Arsenal 1.62
3.85 Everton 3.95 Manchester United 2.02
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Report Aspro February 22, 2026 3:59 PM GMT
Palace 1-0 Wolves FT
Report Aspro February 22, 2026 4:02 PM GMT
West Ham will be happy with that late goal. Spurs not unhappy either.
Report Aspro February 22, 2026 4:03 PM GMT
Sunderland 1-3 Fulham FT
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 4:14 PM GMT
Spurs 8.2 (7/1).  Any takers? Cool
Report tobermory February 22, 2026 4:14 PM GMT
Igor Tudor has given a '100% guarantee' that Tottenham won't be relegated.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! February 22, 2026 4:17 PM GMT
Sounds
TRUMPISH!!!

Laugh
Report Aspro February 22, 2026 4:21 PM GMT
All in on Spurs Grin
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 4:23 PM GMT
Ok, I'll lay Arse at 1.45. That looks way too short.
Report elise February 22, 2026 4:26 PM GMT
first 10 mins we'll know, they'll either be a sack of nervous shoite or 2 up
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- February 22, 2026 4:37 PM GMT
Liverpool have seen seven winning goals in the 90th minute (or later) in their Premier League games this season (3 for, 4 against) - the most ever by any side in a single campaign in the competition.

Opta
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 4:39 PM GMT
Ok, this is concerning.
Report impossible123 February 22, 2026 4:41 PM GMT
Will Arsenal blow this game? I agree 1.4 is way too short. I understand Spurs are spiritless, 1.4 Arsenal is unfathomable.
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 4:44 PM GMT
What the **** is going on?  This is ridiculous.
Report elise February 22, 2026 4:44 PM GMT
id be worried
Report Aspro February 22, 2026 5:04 PM GMT
Eze is a nightmare Cry
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 5:04 PM GMT
This horrible little **** only shows up when he plays Spurs.
Report Crisp77 February 22, 2026 5:04 PM GMT
Eze like one of Lionel Ritchies Sunday mornings
Report Crisp77 February 22, 2026 5:05 PM GMT
Arsenal got 60 minutes to hold out.
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 5:06 PM GMT
1-1
Report Crisp77 February 22, 2026 5:06 PM GMT

Feb 22, 2026 -- 5:05PM, Crisp77 wrote:


Arsenal got 60 minutes to hold out.


Heads in hands man Laugh

Report sofaking February 22, 2026 5:06 PM GMT
Kolo-Muani at last scores a goal.
Report Crisp77 February 22, 2026 5:07 PM GMT
Spurs equalise before an Arsensl player can fake a concussion
Report Aspro February 22, 2026 5:07 PM GMT
What a time to score your first goal
Report SlippyBlue February 22, 2026 5:10 PM GMT
A lucky Palace win, both sides were very poor and a draw would have been a fair result.

I'll take it though.
Report elise February 22, 2026 5:11 PM GMT
aspro, you of little faith re kolo lol
Report Aspro February 22, 2026 5:12 PM GMT
Indeed Laugh
Report Aspro February 22, 2026 5:27 PM GMT
The 2 Kolo scored against PSG in the CL were beautiful strikes, as was that one, but 14 PL games without a goal before today does make you wonder. Pleased for him, hopefully he'll get a hat-trick now.
Report abba21 February 22, 2026 5:28 PM GMT
Arsenal surely win this should be a couple up.
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 5:29 PM GMT
1-1 HT. Spurs doing reasonably well so far. Huge second half incoming. COYS.
Report Aspro February 22, 2026 5:30 PM GMT
I'LL TAKE A DRAW!
Report SirNorbertClarke February 22, 2026 5:31 PM GMT
Arsenal will score another.

Currently have a 22% return on my lay of them Grin
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 5:42 PM GMT
This ref's an idiot. Needs to sort himself out ffs.
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 5:48 PM GMT
Dr. Tottenham strikes again. Two useless players who couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo scores goals.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- February 22, 2026 5:50 PM GMT
3,shirley
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 5:51 PM GMT

Feb 22, 2026 -- 5:50PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


3,shirley


No, and don't call me Shirley.

Report sofaking February 22, 2026 5:53 PM GMT
2-2 Kolo Muani
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 5:53 PM GMT
or not.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- February 22, 2026 5:57 PM GMT
Fowl on Gabriel, lol, no worse than 90% of pushes
that go unpenalised,... Reward for going to ground.
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 6:01 PM GMT
This guy stealing a living. He hasn't had a shot on target since he last played Spurs six months ago.
Report tobermory February 22, 2026 6:07 PM GMT

Feb 22, 2026 -- 5:57PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


Fowl on Gabriel, lol, no worse than 90% of pushesthat go unpenalised,... Reward for going to ground.


That was very soft indeed.

Report tobermory February 22, 2026 6:07 PM GMT
Had to lay Arsenal @1.04
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY February 22, 2026 6:07 PM GMT
this game has gone all soft

derby are not derby anymore because its basically a tickling contest out there.

As ive said before FOOTBALL in this country is DEAD
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- February 22, 2026 6:09 PM GMT
Only Robert Pirès (7) and Emmanuel Adebayor (6) have more Premier League goals for Arsenal against Tottenham than Eberechi Eze (5), who now has as many goals in this league fixture for the Gunners as both Thierry Henry and Robin van Persie managed

Opta
Report uptheirons February 22, 2026 6:09 PM GMT
Nothing is too good for the hideous SpudsLaugh
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY February 22, 2026 6:10 PM GMT
honestly saka should be in a wheelchair by now. how these players let him just fall over all the time on contact is beyond a joke, give him something to think by snapping through his legs straight away and take a yellow, i dont mean soft nap, i mean right the way through his legs, the opportunity is there every time his on the ball. seriously someone do it
Report Crisp77 February 22, 2026 6:10 PM GMT
Quite worrying that Spurs have been smashed by two players who were in the Championship a few seasons back
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY February 22, 2026 6:14 PM GMT
that's not just spurs, that's every team, the whole league just stand off him. the only player who snapped into him early was Kerkez for liverpool and Saka had a completely **** game, yet no teams do it. it pisses me off that these games are so timid and soft these days
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY February 22, 2026 6:16 PM GMT
spurs are getting relegated btw

they're the worse team in the league and hope someone makes it quite clear to the owners that it lies with them
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 6:18 PM GMT
Yeah, Spurs look doomed. This is not a team that is prepared for a relegation battle. Absolutely should not be losing at home to this flakey Arsenal side.
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 6:19 PM GMT

Feb 22, 2026 -- 6:09PM, uptheirons wrote:


Nothing is too good for the hideous Spuds


It's a very one-sided rivalry. I don't even dislike West Am.

Report BULLET TOOTH TONY February 22, 2026 6:20 PM GMT
too much cuddling on this pitch.

spurs fans should be targeting their players for this. soft weak personality the lot of them
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY February 22, 2026 6:21 PM GMT
ANGE killed this team with his high line. Now Spurs are just so open all over the pitch
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY February 22, 2026 6:22 PM GMT
Paulinho Was Awful


Worse performance of a player ive ever seen in a derby
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY February 22, 2026 6:30 PM GMT
time wasting by Saka

here comes the famous Limp
Report penzance February 22, 2026 6:31 PM GMT
Is there any player who spends more time on the
deck than Saka.
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 6:32 PM GMT
Saka sh!t. Most overrated player in world football.
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY February 22, 2026 6:33 PM GMT
no.

Thats why its about time a team, snapped him in the first minute. proper bone cruncher
Report tobermory February 22, 2026 6:33 PM GMT
1-4 Gykores
Report Crisp77 February 22, 2026 6:34 PM GMT
Spurs do more curing than my butcher
Report sofaking February 22, 2026 6:37 PM GMT
Dr. Tottenham strikes yet again. Two massive flops look like world beaters today.
Report uptheirons February 22, 2026 6:38 PM GMT
4 by 2's battered at homeLaugh
Report Aspro February 22, 2026 6:41 PM GMT
I said in January that February would be tough. Just one point gained, against City no less. February has now gone, time to work our way out of this.
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY February 22, 2026 6:52 PM GMT

Feb 22, 2026 -- 6:41PM, Aspro wrote:


I said in January that February would be tough. Just one point gained, against City no less. February has now gone, time to work our way out of this.


No chance

did you see that today. There is nothing about this collective spurs group to draw hope. Relegation is all but confirmed by pts. Utter rubbish after 10 days off

Report stu February 22, 2026 6:53 PM GMT
Yep, I think it's written that Spurs experience Championship football at least for one season...they look destined for it.
Report Aspro February 22, 2026 6:55 PM GMT
I've replied on your other thread BTT
Report DixieDean60 February 22, 2026 7:11 PM GMT
For all you doom mongers out there, you can get Spurs at 6/1 to be relegated if you are that convinced.

for some unfathomable reason Skybet have Arsenal at just 150/1 for the drop even though they are mathematically safe Laugh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- February 22, 2026 7:31 PM GMT
You can back Arsenal at 1000 on here to go down
Citeh at 250,and lay Citeh at 560 if you so desire.
Report Wesdag February 22, 2026 8:20 PM GMT
A pleasing result but I maintain we don't deserve to with the EPL if why can't beat Wolves when 2 up & half an hour to play.

Absolute fkn joke.
Report MrStrawMan February 22, 2026 11:24 PM GMT
£13611 on wolves to go down at 1.01
Report Storm Alert February 22, 2026 11:24 PM GMT
Only able to watch highlights on MotD, agree with Murphy, Saka and Timber excellent together, Spurs couldnt cope. I hope Arteta now sticks wirh those two as setup today. I know Spurs have a lot of injuries but new manager has a big job on his hands in remaining matches if he doesnt get players back quickly.
Report tobermory February 23, 2026 6:50 PM GMT
Everton XI: Pickford, Garner, Tarkowski, Keane, Branthwaite; Iroegbunam, Gueye; Ndiaye, Dewsbury-Hall, Armstrong, Barry

Man United XI: Lammens, Dalot, Maguire, Yoro, Shaw; Casemiro, Mainoo; Amad, Fernandes, Mbeumo, Cunha
Report Mr Spock February 23, 2026 7:13 PM GMT
Moyes doing my head in with that line up. Hope he knows what he's doing.
Report DixieDean60 February 23, 2026 7:36 PM GMT
What's the problem with the line up Mr S ?
Report Stringvest February 23, 2026 7:49 PM GMT
Duncan mckenzie was Magic Wink
Report Mr Spock February 23, 2026 8:48 PM GMT
Players out of position Dixie, playing our current best midfielder at left back when we have one on the bench etc. You obviously quietly rate Moyes, I dont I'm afraid and never have but thats football.
Report Mr Spock February 23, 2026 8:49 PM GMT
Just as well united are $hite as well.
Report Mr Spock February 23, 2026 8:50 PM GMT
He was string, never forgave Gordon Lee for selling him.
Report tobiasr February 23, 2026 8:52 PM GMT

Feb 23, 2026 -- 8:48PM, Mr Spock wrote:


Players out of position Dixie, playing our current best midfielder at left back when we have one on the bench etc. You obviously quietly rate Moyes, I dont I'm afraid and never have but thats football.


likewise spock. 'i win, that's what i do' says the guy with a win rate of about 1 in 3

Report Stringvest February 23, 2026 8:54 PM GMT
I dont need google  Dix Laugh
Report tobiasr February 23, 2026 8:57 PM GMT
in fairness it is better than 1 in 3. but even so a hell of a stretch to give that quote. besides that the football he sets up to play is turgid and stupefying. isnt even a guarantee of staying up as hes got a relegation on his cv. one trophy win in all those years of management and even that a tinpot one with weak teams
Report DixieDean60 February 23, 2026 9:02 PM GMT
Duncan McKenzie was indeed magic, but unfortunately not often enough as a succession of managers at a number of clubs would testify.

I first saw him play in the 1977 League Cup Final 0-0 borefest against Villa, still had terraces then. Some little sh1t on his dads shoulders incessantly chanted "Mckenzie, Mckenzie" in my right ear'ole throughout the whole ruddy game and it was impossible to move anywhere else, gave me tinnitus for a month Cry
Report Mr Spock February 23, 2026 9:02 PM GMT
No chance of going down but picks all the same players and formation again. Gana's been crap since his return from the Afcon and Ndiaye hasnt been much better. The young players hardly getting a sniff but he's never been any different. Has done his job (stabilsation of the team) and I hope he goes in the summer as I cant watch this for another season. Key them winning the game 1-0.
Report tobiasr February 23, 2026 9:52 PM GMT
meant generally spock not this season specifically. point i meant was some would say guarantee of staying up would justify the dreadful football but he cant even claim that
Report Mr Spock February 23, 2026 9:55 PM GMT
Yes another defeat at home, you wonder how many it will take for the owner to act.
Report the_don February 23, 2026 10:06 PM GMT
Everton went down to 10 men early on at Old Trafford but still showed bravery on the ball, played well and deservedly won. Tonight - Pickford long balls to the left wing and pile onto the keeper at corners.

Utd weren't much better mind, just had a bit more quality to create that big chance. Defence and keeper stood firm but that was about it.
Report DixieDean60 February 23, 2026 10:10 PM GMT
Who could they get to replace him Mr S ? Just about every manager except Carlo in the last 15 years have been hounded out by the fans who seem to think we should play like Barcelona every week only without the players to do so Crazy

You said earlier Moyes should give the youngsters a chance, who are you referring to ?
Armstrong, Garner,  Branthwaite and Tim I all started tonight, all 24 or under.

Offhand i'd say there's something like 13/14 managers in the EPL currently who have not won a trophy with a top flight club here.
Report tobiasr February 23, 2026 10:29 PM GMT
how many have had the amount of years that moyes has had. and how many have had the chance to win something in vastly expanded european tournaments. dont forget a broken clock is right twice a day. its mothing more than the law of averages at play. how many leagues and cups has moyes had the opportunity to win over the years. must be 100s. its a bit like mr s says, you obviously love moyes and more power to you. i dont.
Report SirNorbertClarke February 23, 2026 10:29 PM GMT
Something has to be done about the pushing, shoving & grabbing at corners.
Report tobiasr February 23, 2026 10:29 PM GMT
defo norbert. its a farce
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- February 23, 2026 10:30 PM GMT
Manchester United (P10 W6 D4) are one of only three sides that remain unbeaten across the big five European leagues since Boxing Day alongside Internazionale (11) and Borussia Dortmund (8).

Opta
Report DixieDean60 February 23, 2026 10:40 PM GMT
It should also be remembered that losing Grealish for the season was a blow and that Ndiaye has not been the same player since his Afcon absence . Two flair players who had been instrumental from an attacking point of view in the first half of the season. With the squad we have its very hard to replace them. Dibling hasn't looked the answer yet and young George is still settling in.

Given our travails of the last few seasons i'd say mid table consolidation is more than ok and look to try and sign more quality in the summer.

The home form is poor ( they lost 12 games in the last 2 seasons at Goodison as well) but away has been very good.

tobiasr - i notice you cannot name an alternative to Moyes either.  Look at all the managers we have had in the recent past, none of whom could get the fans on their side. I really don't know what they expect given the limited squad we have.

Tonight they matched a team who as YHTL's stat shows have been in excellent form. They were undone by (ironically) one counter attack.
Report tobiasr February 23, 2026 10:46 PM GMT
i've not tried. but actually dixie as youve mentioned him ancelotti managed quite well, despite the limitations you mention. as for who could do it now and potentially do it better, it depends on how you define better. it seems as though a lot of toffees - and i am not one - have had enough of the style of football. it shouldnt be hard to find someone with an easier style of play on the eye. the idea there isnt someone out there is ludicrous. in reality there are loads of managers that could do it and again it comes down to the numbers. there can only ever be twenty odd premier league managers and so unless you believe there are only twenty decent managers in the world then it follows there will be alternatives and good ones at that.
Report DixieDean60 February 23, 2026 11:08 PM GMT
I liked Carlo as manager but his reputation maybe masks his actual record at Everton. In his one full season (20/21) Everton finished tenth after an excellent start, they did have a stellar away record with 11 wins but amazingly lost no fewer than 10 at Goodison !! Sound familiar ? Crazy

Carlo also had Richarlison, James Rodriguez and a fit and firing Calvert-Lewin to call on as well as Sigurdsson. And yet we still only scored 47 league goals.

Of course there may well be someone out there who can do better, but in the absence of any names it all seems rather fruitless just saying Moyes should go.
Be careful what you wish for (as we have found out all too often Grin).
Report tobiasr February 23, 2026 11:14 PM GMT
thats certainly true dixie. about ancelloti, results might have been broadly similar to now but the style of play was better. you can say there were better players back then but even thats up for debate as theres good players in the building right now that apparently arent being utilised to full effect. so its stick or twist and at the end of the season or maybe sooner i reckon it will be twist. iirc everton fans werent exactly gutted when he left for man u all those years ago and that in itself speaks volumes
Report DixieDean60 February 24, 2026 12:34 AM GMT
Yes its true that some were not unhappy when DM left in 2013, but they were the ones who thought finishing in the top 8 every year was not good enough and expected more. Nothing wrong with having those expectations of course but you have to get the right players in to continue onwards and upwards.

Roberto then came in and did a fine job, playing good football and moulding a fine team which finished 5th with a club record points tally for the EPL of 72.
Of course they were unable to replicate that and finished 11th in the next two years resulting in the sack for the manager.

Sam Allardyce has been our most "successful" manager since then , finishing 8th after dragging the team up from the threat of relegation. His reward was a fond farewell as again the fans thought we should be playing better football.   Had we kept him i doubt the relegation struggles of the next few years would have happened.

Again, be careful what you wish for.....Grin
Report Mr Spock February 24, 2026 10:26 AM GMT
Dixie, I'd like a manager that plays his players in the correct positions, uses the squad and substitutes players at the right time. Doesnt pick players becuase they are 'Premiership ready'(what does that even mean) and can change his tactics and formation before we go a goal behind when they are clearly not working. Moyes has had his time and we need someone with a modern approach to the game. I'd have Silva back as I dont think he was given a fair chance first time round.
Report DixieDean60 February 24, 2026 11:54 AM GMT
Mr S, it's not really DM's fault that we have a full back problem, that is down to the recruitment guys. They could not get one in pre season and failed again in the recent window. However at centre back there are four guys who he would really like to play every week !  So he has a headache trying to accommodate them all which is why we have Branthwaite at LB last night. As for Garner at RB, whilst not his number one position he has played there many times before including under the previous manager and of course that was his role in the England u21 team that won the Euros.

Silva, like others in recent times, was certainly not given a fair crack of the whip. Two reasons for that, one is the vocal minority of fans who turn on the manager as soon as we hit a bad run and the second one was a trigger happy Moshiri over reacting to a few bad results.  Koeman was another who had done ok the previous season but was shown the door after a few poor games without being given the chance to turn things round.

DM has been credited by most sensible pundits with stabilising the club and (so far) avoiding the threat of relegation we have endured for a number of years. That is what he does, provides a safe pair of hands. That is down to experience. I am sure he is scratching his head as to why the team underperforms at the new stadium when they are so good away from home (would be nice if you could give him credit for his tactics in that regard Grin) . Maybe the opposition simply like playing at the HD more than they did at Goodison, as they are like chalk and cheese.

btw, Since DM has been back we have played Silva's Fulham three times - scores on the doors, DM 3 MS 0 Wink
Report Mr Spock February 24, 2026 12:06 PM GMT
I didnt want Moyes back but I will give him credit for stabalising things and he was probably the right man for this period. However, he hasnt really changed from his last tenure and is ultra cautious and pretty much starts every game the same. If he would just change things round a bit and utilise the subs when we need them and not be reactive (usually after we have gone one down). The fans will not be turning up at HDS if we dont start winning games soon and at least looking like we are set up to win.
If we finish bottom half this season (cant seen where the next home win is coming from apart from Burnley and they are improved of late), I think TFG will say goodbye to him.
Report DixieDean60 February 24, 2026 12:47 PM GMT
The HD is pretty much sold out for the rest of the season so no danger of the fans not turning up.

Only 5 home games left, 3 of them are City, Liverpool and Chelsea so a bit optimistic to expect a turnaround in home form but hope springs eternal.

Missed chances have cost the team a number of points at home this season, you cannot blame DM for the fact his strikers at times couldn't hit a cow's arris with a banjo.
There is some talk of a move for Liam Delap in the summer as he doesn't seem to fit Chelsea very well. We certainly need something different up front that's for sure.
Report Mr Spock February 24, 2026 12:53 PM GMT
Agreed, the 2 up front are npthing short of useless though Barry may still improve. We got sold a dud with Beto thats for sure.
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