PREMIER LEAGUE: ROUND 12

I think Newcastle is a very good game for City, they now want sides to come on to them and then counter attack, Newcastle will oblige and play right into their hands.

Arsenal should've won it last year, imo. They let slot off the hook. Liverpool were mediocre for much of last season as well, but Slot got away with it, somehow.

think city a bit short, i've laid them, got 1.96

Indeed Aspro, a tremendous away win today.

We're sitting pretty in  4th and a great game to look forward to a week tomorrow home to Man Utd.

And a Roy special too.




Alexander Isak is the first Liverpool player in Premier League history to end on the losing side in each of his first four starts for the club.

Opta

Newcastle 2 Citeh 1

Good game to watch,



Big game for arsenal tomorrow.

MOTD showed a graphic like the automated offside graphic (wasn't shown during the live game I don't think) which is way off from what the rule states for the 2nd Newc goal. Showed the line as bottom of sleeve instead of bottom of armpit (hip looks further goalward) and on the graphic he looks offside if they'd used the right line.

The graphic they showed is here https://x.com/sammyprimus1/status/1992352095006331201?s=20

using the pen box line that was offside all day long

I was surprised when it stood.

People stopping their tvs trying to guess when ball leaves woltemades
head are prone to getting it wrong.

The graphic produced for TV is odd as the line stops
at underside of citeh players arm instead of continuing upwards
through his upper arm.

The citeh player is also show to be off the ground
as his shadows don't touch his feet, as Brunos do.
Citeh player did not jump...

I tried uploading a photo but mods must be having a day off

But you can see it here


https://x.com/ituadesign/status/1992336757195755845?s=19

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Eh, so much adding to confusion...

the pundits didn't really question it

They got foden pelanty wrong though.

A yellow and pelanty is best decision.

Maybe they were swayed by not giving Hall a pelanty 5 minutes
earlier. Maybe the 2 citeh players calling for a corner put
off the referee.

That was a stonewall penalty, it was reckless and dangerous and could have injured Foden yet they basically ignored that fact because Foden had just got his shot away prior to the challenge, but....so what!!!

WH EPIC BOOST

7/4 (From 1/1) Ollie Watkins to score anytime

3.35 on here

Well yeah, it needs to be a yellow card for it to be a pelanty
if its after a shot has gone, that's the rules they are
playing to.

Ref looks away, following ball and misses it, then var
can step in.... It's a pelanty Mr referee we are sending
you to monitor...

There were a couple of fouls in the game where ref
didn't get card out, so maybe he's just set a high threashold
and so var didn't jump in.

It would be so much better if we could hear ref and
Var so we understand why these decisions are made.

Ref also bottled red card for donnarumma, he books he for
screaming dissent at him, shows him a card, and he runs over
to ref for more chat and gets hold of ref.

Citeh constantly had groups of players around ref
and no sanction, no cards, no shooing away.

The diving gets much less reward these days but
they still constantly feel a bit of contact and go down.

Looks silly when ref plays on and the get up and run back.

Leeds 1 nil
MAYBE

https://x.com/manxpie86/status/1992557283713159209?s=19

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6 nations at sjp...

TheGoddess 23 Nov 25 13:32 
WH EPIC BOOST

7/4 (From 1/1) Ollie Watkins to score anytime

I would need that "anytime" to be the literal interpretation of the word before I took that.

Leeds 1-0 Aston Villa HT

Villa spend all their time passing the ball in slow motion not up for it today.

Are you losing money, money, money?

Leeds 1-1 Villa

Leeds 1-2 Villa

Leeds 2-2 Villa (Poss VAR)

Tight offside, still pending

DESMOND.

Nope, handball

Leeds 1-2 Villa (handball)

DCL is disastrously bad.

6 mins added

Leeds 1-2 Aston Villa FT

Arsenal: Raya; Calafiori; Hincapie; Saliba; Timber; Rice; Zubimendi; Eze; Trossard; Merino; Saka.

Tottenham: Vicario: Danso; van de Ven; Romero; Udogie; Bentancur; Palhinha; Spence; Odobert; Kudus; Richarlison.

Richarlison.

I'd almost prefer Tal up front. Very defensive team.

Going by the betting looks like a slow game with few goals

I wouldn't go that far sofa, but we're weak up front regardless. Would prefer Xavi over Odebert too.

1-0 Arsenal

2-0 Arsenal

And game over. Useless park the bus tactics from Frank.

3-0 Eze

F**king pathetic and embarrassing from Spurs. It's not going to work for Frank at Spurs.

3-1

Eze hatrick

4-1

'kin amazing. Levy stalls on buying him, Arsenal nick him and he scores a hat-trick against us. Go figure.

Good to see Eze knocking them in.

Nov 23, 2025 -- 6:10PM, SlippyBlue wrote:

Good to see Eze knocking them in.

You're really trying to p!ss Aspro off eh.

Opta

Eberechi Eze has scored the fourth ever hat-trick in competitive meetings between Arsenal and Spurs, after Ted Drake (Arsenal, October 1934), Terry Dyson (Spurs, August 1961) and Alan Sunderland (Arsenal, December 1978).

FRANK OUT. There, I said it. The pragmatic approach, horrendous home form and getting hammered by local rivals is not sustainable. Absolutely dogsh!t effort from Spurs here against an overrated Ars*nal side.

Opta

Eberechi Eze has scored the 400th hat-trick in Premier League history. He's the 23rd player to score one for @Arsenal, with no side having more different hat-trick scorers in the competition

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Mods finally approved me picture

Bit late..

Floating citeh player...

Please accept our apologies, the original larger image has now been approved....

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Cheers top2


Eberechi Eze is the first player with a palindromic surname to score a top-flight hat-trick since Albert Malam for Huddersfield against Liverpool in November 1934

Bill Edgar, the times

Bill again...

On Saturday when Bournemouth’s Marcos Senesi set up Enes Unal (both born 10 May 1997) they became the 3rd pair born on same day to have assisted each other for PL goals. Also:
Newcastle’s Jonjo Shelvey/Callum Wilson (27 Feb 1992)
Man City’s Kevin Horlock/Paul Dickov (1 Nov 1972)

And...

The only Englishman to score against Arsenal in their
past 36 games was – Eberechi Eze for Crystal Palace.

And again, warming up for tonites game


Man Utd will have played only 12 games in all competitions between start of season and Nov 23rd – their fewest in that period in any season since 1904-05 (excluding FA Cup-only 1945-46 season)

Gana , what a twit but hardly a red card?

The incident was nothing, the reaction after was worse but not a red

Ref ruins game.

Anyone still awake

Bizarre decision if you ask me.

Bowyer and dier got sent off for fighting

Big lad did well not to react.

Lovely finish that.

Actually, the goalie should have done better..

Dunno how pep got away with this

https://x.com/NUFCEdge/status/1992685740531351758?s=19

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No visiting side has ever won a Premier League game at
Old Trafford having had a player sent off (P46 D10 L36).

Bbc

Sold the goals after the sending off expecting 10 behind the ball; you can always rely on the Utd defence !

Nov 24, 2025 -- 8:46PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

No visiting side has ever won a Premier League game at Old Trafford having had a player sent off (P46 D10 L36).Bbc

if any team can consign that stat to history its this one

I haven't the words to describe just how bad United have been in that first half

market tells you all you need to know. everton will now be all behind the ball and the expectation is they see out the win

Don't worry. Dr Everton will sort all of that out by playing all remaining 10 in the 6 yard box for 50 minutes. If, however, we win this it will be a turning point for Everton. mark my words. Don't think it will happen but.....

keane should have been sent off also. not a headbutt but still enough for a red imho

and it explains the slap he got

Pickford as well. He manhandled Gueye. Should be down to 8. Perhaps then Utd may have a chance.

reckon pickford was ok. what he was doing was defensive

Nov 24, 2025 -- 9:03PM, DonegalPrince wrote:

Don't worry. Dr Everton will sort all of that out by playing all remaining 10 in the 6 yard box for 50 minutes. If, however, we win this it will be a turning point for Everton. mark my words. Don't think it will happen but.....

think it will happen but lets see

this is one of those matches where utd could play until next week and not score

when the two united goals go in, both will be deflections

Fergie texting var with time of pelanty...

its also a match where the chances of utd scoring went down at the same time everton went down to ten

perfect anniversary match this. the first year of amorim has been dreadful so fitting this anniversary match is the same

amorim is clueless. could anyone really have done any worse than this after a year

What a croc Man Utd have been.

they havent been that good slippy

created nothing really worth talking about in this match

Everton been pretty comfortable

exactly. embarrassing from utd this

Indeed Tobes, you've got to give Everton a lot of credit for their performance.

could see this a mile off at the half. defensive team down to ten men get a lead and then spend the next half defending it. dont know what the 1-0 price was at half time but was definitely worth a punt

its got to the point now with amorim that he almost cant be sacked. he wont get sacked after this debacle so its almost like what does he have to do

Everton price 19 when they got the red

Nov 20, 2025 -- 10:29AM, Crisp77 wrote:

Nice to see Man United odds home for a home game again.

Nov 24, 2025 -- 9:02PM, tobiasr wrote:

market tells you all you need to know. everton will now be all behind the ball and the expectation is they see out the win

the market knew. you would have expected everton to be way bigger than they were at half time if there was any faith in utd at all. there wasnt and justifiably so

well my decades old pessimism was ill-founded. We did really well there and I hope it may be a turning point for the club. As well as that, my lay of Utd for top 6 was helped. Not a bad night. Lagavulin now!

To all you Dad's out there getting your boys out everyday kicking a ball about in the far fetched desperate dream that he could become a professional footballer, well I've got two words for you to remember and should mean that you should never ever give up on that dream no matter how unlikely that it might seem that your boy has the skills to ascend to that highest of dreamlands.

Joshua Zirkzee!!!!!

Well that was a pleasing result after just one win for the toffees at OT in 32 years.
Hardly expected to win it in such circumstances of course, christ knows why you would start fighting your own team mate especially so early in the game.
Gana was very silly, totally out of character for him but if anything it seemed to spur the remaining ten men on. He has apologised to his team mates apparently and rightly so, we won't see him in an EFC shirt for a while as after his suspension he will be off to play in the Africa competition.

An excellent defensive display albeit against a clueless Utd side who could have gone 4th or 5th with a win tonight, shows the lack of real quality in the EPL imo.
An added bonus is being above our neighbours in the table. stop the season now

Nov 24, 2025 -- 8:46PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

No visiting side has ever won a Premier League game at Old Trafford having had a player sent off (P46 D10 L36).Bbc

amorim breaking records

everton would have walked it with 11, they just decided to make a game of it and took a player off, very sporting of them