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It's a matter of opinion I guess. Love Kane and all he done for Spurs and England, but Gazza is probably still my favourite.
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No unless he wins a world cup. Bobby Charlton or Bobby Moore for me.
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Might get into the top 1000 I guess
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Gazza was a talent for sure
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Probably still Bobby Charlton in terms of medals, talent and caps
(although at his highest peak, I still think Welshman, Gareth Bale was probably the best British footballer ever) |
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George Best for me.
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carlton palmer
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Greatest players ever do not go AWOL in cup finals.
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ROY RACE=ROY OF THE ROVERS
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'George Best for me'
Do you like Michael McIntyre? |
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Charlton/Best/Moore before I was old enough to form an opinion, but I'd say at his best Gazza was the most talented player to play for England in my memory. I think Peter Shilton and Kevin Keegan are right up there. Bellingham has the potential to be. I think Kane is in his best ever form, and in terms of consistency is clearly one of England's greatest modern players
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Recency_bias
Recency bias is a cognitive bias that favors recent events over historic ones The "prodigal son" refers to a biblical parable about a son who wastes his inheritance and is welcomed back by his loving father, also describe someone who is wasteful and extravagant or someone who has strayed from a path and returned. Alex Higgins, George Best, Paul Gascoigne, Eddie Pearce (golf) ... could have been better (progigal sons). Amazingly George Best played for 12 clubs after manchester United. My vote for England goalscorer is Gary Lineker, 10 in World Cups. Harry Kane 8. They both played for Tottenham Hotspur.  Perhaps Bobby Charlton was England's greatest, 106 caps and 49 goals, at a time of fewer international matches. Remember England, as hosts, did not have a 1966 World Cup qualification campaign. Bobby Moore's international career was 11 years, Bobby Charlton 12 years, Rooney (15), Beckham (13), Gerrard (14), Cole (13), Lampard (15). |
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Charlton was the greatest at getting away with it scot-free.
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Lineker was a better finisher than Kane.
Jimmy Greaves better than both. Are we judging on talent or awards/medals? |
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If you rule out alkies, wife beaters, nonces and flat track bullies, Carlton Palmer is in the lead so far.
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Charlton was majestic.
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Geoff Hurst must be up there surely, I'm not English btw, but to score a hat trick for England in world cup final at Wembley is some achievement in football.
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whats wrong honcho ? I was not born when they won it, thankfully, but nobody can argue with achievement, maybe got lucky on the day, but record books say he done it
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Some players just get lucky and are in the right place at the right time. He was a good player who knew where the net ( and occasionally the crossbar ) was.
He did win the Cup Winners Cup with West Ham too so deserves respect for that too.From match 2 onwards Charlton ran the show. Without him they would have struggled. There is a story which did the rounds that Ramsey @ training one day told Ball and Stiles to come with him. He took them to a field where a man was exercising his pet collie. Every time he threw the ball the dog fetched it and laid it at his master’s feet. Ramsay reputedly turned to the two and told them,…….”each of you are the dog and the master is Bobby Charlton. Your job is to get the ball and give it to him”. That’s how important Charlton was to that England team, and he proved it in ‘66. Best wishes. |
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Could Hurst lace Law or Dalglish's boots honcho ? probably not, however he still done something they would have dreamed of. I'm sure you know I don't have a Union Jack or King george flag outside my house and watch re runs of 1966 WC, but the lad done it, nobody can argue with that.
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Will Harry Kane become the greatest English player ever?
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Jimmy Greaves was the man. Just something else. Suffered injury, Hurst got in, and to his immense credit rose to the occasion, took his chance and kept the position.
He was big but mobile, athletic and positive. Good touch, good on the ground and useful in the air and scored lots of goals. Can’t compare to others but if I was given the choice of either of him, Greaves, Law or Dalglish I’d say - give me all four and I’ll work something out! |
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Trouble is most people people go for someone they have seen, which limits the title of best ever, however if you go for reputations, Sir Stanly Matthews would definitely be in the echolon. Personally best players I have seen Jimmy Greaves, definitely the best goalscorer, if you have not watched him in his matches in Italy , please do. Bobby Charlton, really was a good player,Bobby Moore, supreme defender, Gordon Banks, great goalkeeper. Billy Wright had 105 caps so presumably was good.
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I think Kane ought to be knighted. He puts in more than any England player in the last 20 years. He's trumped over his critics in Europe too.
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Couldn’t agree more.
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Stanley Matthews
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my dad wd have said stanley matthews he also rated duncan edwards
bobby moore was very special gasgoine was great but mentally very weak banks was a great goalie... but my vote goes to bobby moore - world cup captain winner and pure class |
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no way its kane by the way
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You can tell a good football player as they seem to have a force field around them and no-one can get near them. Players I’ve seen with this attribute, Van Basten, Messi and Gascoigne.
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Seen live that is.
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Poppydog
Certainly agree about bale absolutely unplayable at his best and by far the best British player of the last 50 years when on song,however for those who saw George best albeit for not long enough will know he was the best |
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best was the best but he wasnt english
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Neither was Gareth bale
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1967 ballon d'or list was super tasty
and a couple of Scots made the list and given Scottish football was barely covered by euro journalists they must have been good. Jinky Johnson was a really good player, who never really gets brought into UK football debates Ps he wasn't English either, lol, but... Rank Name Club(s) Nationality Points 1 Flórián Albert Hungary Ferencváros Hungary 68 2 Bobby Charlton England Manchester United England 40 3 Jimmy Johnstone Scotland Celtic Scotland 39 4 Franz Beckenbauer Germany Bayern Munich West Germany 37 5 Eusébio Portugal Benfica Portugal 26 6 Tommy Gemmell Scotland Celtic Scotland 21 7 Gerd Müller Germany Bayern Munich West Germany 19 8 George Best England Manchester United Northern Ireland 18 9 Igor Chislenko Soviet Union Dynamo Moscow Soviet Union 9 10 János Farkas Hungary Vasas Hungary 8 Sandro Mazzola Italy Internazionale Italy Pirri Spain Real Madrid Spain 13 Gigi Riva Italy Cagliari Italy 6 Eduard Streltsov Soviet Union Torpedo Moscow Soviet Union 15 Anatoliy Byshovets Soviet Union Dynamo Kyiv Soviet Union 5 16 Alan Ball England Everton England 4 Helmut Haller Germany Bologna West Germany Włodzimierz Lubański Poland Górnik Zabrze Poland Gianni Rivera Italy Milan Italy 20 Zvezdan Čebinac Netherlands PSV Eindhoven Germany 1. FC Nürnberg Yugoslavia 3 Giacinto Facchetti Italy Internazionale Italy Geoff Hurst England West Ham United England Wolfgang Overath Germany 1. FC Köln West Germany Paul Van Himst Belgium Anderlecht Belgium |
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I did say British player dragon I you read it properly
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A great list you have to laugh I remember the great goal byshovets scored in the 1970 World Cup
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A young Johan cruijff picked up one point..
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the op said english jim
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