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28 Oct 25
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According to the Turkish FA, 371 of 571 registered refs have betting acconts with various betting companies 
A sure fire recipe for disaster.
A sure fire recipe for disaster.
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In the FBI's investigation into corruption in the NBA, referees are coming under very close scrutiny.
We've all seen dodgy decisions in the Premier League.
We've all seen dodgy decisions in the Premier League.
Gambling is a fundamental prohibition in the Islamic world.
Although I guess if you know the result before you stake your money it's not really gambling
Although I guess if you know the result before you stake your money it's not really gambling
Yes, Jose knows the score... I read last week that throughout his career he had accumulated something like 40 million pounds in contract pay ups after getting the sack
Chelsea and Manchester United accounting for about half of that!
Chelsea and Manchester United accounting for about half of that!
One referee placed 18,227 bets, while 42 referees wagered on over 1,000 football matches.
"Starting from today, our disciplinary committee will take the necessary actions," Hacıosmanoğlu said, adding that referees will be referred to the disciplinary board for penalties under federation instructions.
The Istanbul Chief Public Prosecutor's Office said it accepted Hacıosmanoğlu's statement as a formal denunciation and will expand its ongoing investigation launched in April. Prosecutors are examining potential violations of laws preventing sports violence and irregularities, sports federation regulations, and betting legislation.
"Starting from today, our disciplinary committee will take the necessary actions," Hacıosmanoğlu said, adding that referees will be referred to the disciplinary board for penalties under federation instructions.
The Istanbul Chief Public Prosecutor's Office said it accepted Hacıosmanoğlu's statement as a formal denunciation and will expand its ongoing investigation launched in April. Prosecutors are examining potential violations of laws preventing sports violence and irregularities, sports federation regulations, and betting legislation.
Jose Mourinho said in a November 2024 interview, "We fight not only the opposing team but also the system. And fighting the system is the hardest."
He added, "I heard various stories before coming to Turkey, but I didn't believe them. But when I actually came, it was much worse than I thought. I'm disappointed in the people who brought me here. They told me only half the truth and hid the rest. If I had known everything, I wouldn't have come here."
At the time, the remark was dismissed as simple dissatisfaction with refereeing decisions, but this incident has effectively made it a reality.
He added, "I heard various stories before coming to Turkey, but I didn't believe them. But when I actually came, it was much worse than I thought. I'm disappointed in the people who brought me here. They told me only half the truth and hid the rest. If I had known everything, I wouldn't have come here."
At the time, the remark was dismissed as simple dissatisfaction with refereeing decisions, but this incident has effectively made it a reality.
18,227 bets, lol
How did he have time to referee,?
Unless of course a friend was punting for him.
How did he have time to referee,?
Unless of course a friend was punting for him.
Jose Mourinho said in a November 2024 interview, "We fight not only the opposing team but also the system. And fighting the system is the hardest."
He added, "I heard various stories before coming to Turkey, but I didn't believe them. But when I actually came, it was much worse than I thought. I'm disappointed in the people who brought me here. They told me only half the truth and hid the rest. If I had known everything, I wouldn't have come here."
Reading between the lines, I think Mourinho got bummed over there.
He added, "I heard various stories before coming to Turkey, but I didn't believe them. But when I actually came, it was much worse than I thought. I'm disappointed in the people who brought me here. They told me only half the truth and hid the rest. If I had known everything, I wouldn't have come here."
Reading between the lines, I think Mourinho got bummed over there.
What's happened to your chum Whisperingdeath?? DIE-LINKE?
I read a referee's defence against the allegations is that it was identity theft (not real theft).
The authorities are certain to believe that.
I though Bill Clinton's response was better
Throughout his more than two decades in politics, President Clinton has dazzled aides and supporters with his encyclopedic memory,
an uncanny ability to recall names, faces, dates and conversations.
Clinton could be seen telling a federal grand jury again and again that he could not remember details of notable encounters involving
his relationship with former White House intern Monica S. Lewinsky.
On 110 occasions during more than four hours of grilling by prosecutors representing independent counsel Kenneth W. Starr, the president
responded with statements such as “I don’t necessarily remember,” “I have no recollection” and “I don’t have an independent memory.”
The authorities are certain to believe that.
I though Bill Clinton's response was better
Throughout his more than two decades in politics, President Clinton has dazzled aides and supporters with his encyclopedic memory,
an uncanny ability to recall names, faces, dates and conversations.
Clinton could be seen telling a federal grand jury again and again that he could not remember details of notable encounters involving
his relationship with former White House intern Monica S. Lewinsky.
On 110 occasions during more than four hours of grilling by prosecutors representing independent counsel Kenneth W. Starr, the president
responded with statements such as “I don’t necessarily remember,” “I have no recollection” and “I don’t have an independent memory.”
Oct 30, 2025 -- 4:26PM, Emitdeb wrote:
What's happened to your chum Whisperingdeath?? DIE-LINKE?
Got grassed up by a low life on the politics forum.
Got grassed up by a low life on the politics forum.
I didn't know mes frequented the Politics forum!
Must have expressed some of his extreme views, I'm guessing...
DIE-LINKE, How long is his suspension? .... (not a euphemism)
DIE-LINKE, How long is his suspension? .... (not a euphemism)
mitdeb30 Oct 25 15:26Joined: 28 Dec 07 | Topic/replies: 10,157 | Blogger: Emitdeb's blog
What's happened to your chum Whisperingdeath?? DIE-LINKE?
SirNorbertClarke30 Oct 25 21:29Joined: 11 Aug 21 | Topic/replies: 16,080 | Blogger: SirNorbertClarke's blog
Got grassed up by a low life on the politics forum.
CaptainCristy24 Apr 25 15:04
You can see the level of abuse you are capable of, calling someone a grass is pathetic behaviour, stand up for yourself instead of trying to constantly appeal to the crowd, you runt.
What's happened to your chum Whisperingdeath?? DIE-LINKE?
SirNorbertClarke30 Oct 25 21:29Joined: 11 Aug 21 | Topic/replies: 16,080 | Blogger: SirNorbertClarke's blog
Got grassed up by a low life on the politics forum.
CaptainCristy24 Apr 25 15:04
You can see the level of abuse you are capable of, calling someone a grass is pathetic behaviour, stand up for yourself instead of trying to constantly appeal to the crowd, you runt.
I'm showing a clear profit over the last 12 months... So, it's not mine either... 
Good lad, keep off the correct score markets and you'll be ok.
THATS NO GOOD. but is it that bad? he bets on what like? if i was him had set up either a refs betting website or forum chat or something similar , like they bet against eachother and the ref cant bet on there own game but bet on anything else. it wud probably work out , refs plus maybe footy players ect , they would get 1000s if it became established like that in some how ....
The Turkish Football Federation (TFF) has suspended 149 match officials following their alleged involvement in a betting scandal.
The governing body’s Professional Football Disciplinary Board confirmed on Friday that suspensions between eight and 12 months had been imposed on 149 officials, while investigations continue into three referees.
“The reputation of Turkish football is built on the sanctity of labor on the pitch and the unwavering integrity of justice,” Haciosmanoglu said in a statement. “Any act that betrays these values is not merely a violation of the rules, but a breach of trust.
“Recent investigations have revealed that some referees are involved in betting activities, completely incompatible with the spirit of football. This is not merely a violation; it is an abuse that wounds consciences and poisons justice.
10 referees had placed over 10,000 bets each, and one official had placed 18,277 bets. It wasn’t clear whether any of the officials placed bets on games that they were directly involved in, nor was it announced whether any of the officials were suspected of trying to influence any results in connection with their gambling activities.
The governing body’s Professional Football Disciplinary Board confirmed on Friday that suspensions between eight and 12 months had been imposed on 149 officials, while investigations continue into three referees.
“The reputation of Turkish football is built on the sanctity of labor on the pitch and the unwavering integrity of justice,” Haciosmanoglu said in a statement. “Any act that betrays these values is not merely a violation of the rules, but a breach of trust.
“Recent investigations have revealed that some referees are involved in betting activities, completely incompatible with the spirit of football. This is not merely a violation; it is an abuse that wounds consciences and poisons justice.
10 referees had placed over 10,000 bets each, and one official had placed 18,277 bets. It wasn’t clear whether any of the officials placed bets on games that they were directly involved in, nor was it announced whether any of the officials were suspected of trying to influence any results in connection with their gambling activities.
The idea that after a 12 month suspension these Refs are going to come back 'clean' is ridiculous
Turkey's Football Federation has given bans to 102 players from its top two divisions for "betting-related activities".
The punishments were of varying lengths, ranging from three to 12 months, and involve 25 players from the top-tier Super Lig.
They include two players from champions Galatasaray - Eren Elmali and Metehan Baltaci - who were handed bans of 45 days and nine months respectively.
The rulings by the Professional Football Disciplinary Board (PFDK) in Turkey become final after the seven-day appeal period expires.
The punishments were of varying lengths, ranging from three to 12 months, and involve 25 players from the top-tier Super Lig.
They include two players from champions Galatasaray - Eren Elmali and Metehan Baltaci - who were handed bans of 45 days and nine months respectively.
The rulings by the Professional Football Disciplinary Board (PFDK) in Turkey become final after the seven-day appeal period expires.
The disciplinary action comes after the TFF suspended 1,024 players from its professional leagues on Tuesday as part of an investigation into betting.
Following the move, matches in the third and fourth divisions of Turkish football were postponed for two weeks.
"I want to make it clear that the reason my name appears in this file is because, about five years ago, a bet was placed on a match involving my former team, without my knowledge or involvement," Elmali wrote in an Instagram story post.
"Since that day, I have had no connection whatsoever to betting or this issue."
Galatasaray said the club would "meticulously" follow the "sensitive process".
The scandal initially hit the headlines on 27 October, when TFF president Ibrahim Haciosmanoglu said hundreds of referees were linked to betting accounts.
Haciosmanoglu claimed that out of 571 referees working in Turkey's professional leagues, 371 had betting accounts and 152 were actively placing wagers.
He said the group included seven referees and 15 assistant referees from Turkey's top two divisions, as well as 36 "classified" referees and 94 assistants from the level below.
The TFF president added that 10 referees each placed more than 10,000 bets. One referee placed 18,227, while 142 referees placed bets on more than 1,000 matches. Some referees only placed a single bet.
Like players and coaches, match officials are forbidden from participating in betting activities by TFF regulations, as well as those of Fifa and European governing body Uefa.
Turkish prosecutors recently issued detention orders for 21 people - including 17 referees and two football club presidents - as part of a major investigation into betting and match fixing.
BBC News Turkish has also confirmed Murat Ozkaya, chairman of Super Lig side Eyupspor, has been arrested, as well as six referees and one other individual.
Following the move, matches in the third and fourth divisions of Turkish football were postponed for two weeks.
"I want to make it clear that the reason my name appears in this file is because, about five years ago, a bet was placed on a match involving my former team, without my knowledge or involvement," Elmali wrote in an Instagram story post.
"Since that day, I have had no connection whatsoever to betting or this issue."
Galatasaray said the club would "meticulously" follow the "sensitive process".
The scandal initially hit the headlines on 27 October, when TFF president Ibrahim Haciosmanoglu said hundreds of referees were linked to betting accounts.
Haciosmanoglu claimed that out of 571 referees working in Turkey's professional leagues, 371 had betting accounts and 152 were actively placing wagers.
He said the group included seven referees and 15 assistant referees from Turkey's top two divisions, as well as 36 "classified" referees and 94 assistants from the level below.
The TFF president added that 10 referees each placed more than 10,000 bets. One referee placed 18,227, while 142 referees placed bets on more than 1,000 matches. Some referees only placed a single bet.
Like players and coaches, match officials are forbidden from participating in betting activities by TFF regulations, as well as those of Fifa and European governing body Uefa.
Turkish prosecutors recently issued detention orders for 21 people - including 17 referees and two football club presidents - as part of a major investigation into betting and match fixing.
BBC News Turkish has also confirmed Murat Ozkaya, chairman of Super Lig side Eyupspor, has been arrested, as well as six referees and one other individual.
Turkey arrests 29 footballers...........
Among the players, 27 are suspected of having bet on matches involving their own teams, the public prosecutor's office said in a statement.
One was Metehan Baltaci, who plays for reigning Turkish champions Galatasaray, it said. Earlier this month, he had been suspended for nine months over the betting scandal.
The investigation has rocked Turkish football, with six referees placed in pre-trial detention on November 10, along with the president of Eyupspor, a club in Turkey's top Super Lig division.
Prosecutors did not identify the other 26 players suspected of bets involving their own teams, but said Mert Hakan Yandas, who plays for Fenerbahce, another major Istanbul club, had placed bets through someone else's account.
The prosecutor's office said police had so far detained 35 of the 46 people named in the arrest order. Five were known to be currently abroad, it said.
Zero goal attempts
Two club presidents were among those targeted by the order for "attempting to influence the outcome" of a match between their two third-division teams in the 2023-2024 season, the statement said.
The match had caught the attention of investigators because neither side had even made one attempt to score a goal, Turkish media reported, with several newspapers saying that was where the entire investigation began.
Six other suspects, one of them a player, are accused of conspiring to influence the result of a second-division clash between Umraniyespor and Giresunspor in December 2023.
A first-division referee, the ex-president of second-division side Adana Demirspor, and a well-known football commentator and his wife were also targeted for "suspect financial transactions" in their bank accounts.
So far, the Turkish Football Federation (TFF) -- which has said it wants to "clean up" the beautiful game in Turkey -- has suspended more than 1,000 players, 25 of them from the Super Lig, with the sanctions ranging from 45 days to 12 months.
Only one was a foreign national -- Konyaspor's Senegalese winger Alassane Ndao, who was suspended for 12 months.
In October, the TFF suspended nearly 150 referees for betting on matches, all of whom have since been dismissed.
Zero goal attempts.
Two club presidents were among those targeted by the order for "attempting to influence the outcome" of a match between their two third-division teams in the 2023-2024 season, the statement said.
The match had caught the attention of investigators because neither side had even made one attempt to score a goal, Turkish media reported, with several newspapers saying that was where the entire investigation began.
Six other suspects, one of them a player, are accused of conspiring to influence the result of a second-division clash between Umraniyespor and Giresunspor in December 2023.
A first-division referee, the ex-president of second-division side Adana Demirspor, and a well-known football commentator and his wife were also targeted for "suspect financial transactions" in their bank accounts.
So far, the Turkish Football Federation (TFF) -- which has said it wants to "clean up" the beautiful game in Turkey -- has suspended more than 1,000 players, 25 of them from the Super Lig, with the sanctions ranging from 45 days to 12 months.
Only one was a foreign national -- Konyaspor's Senegalese winger Alassane Ndao, who was suspended for 12 months.
In October, the TFF suspended nearly 150 referees for betting on matches, all of whom have since been dismissed.
Among the players, 27 are suspected of having bet on matches involving their own teams, the public prosecutor's office said in a statement.
One was Metehan Baltaci, who plays for reigning Turkish champions Galatasaray, it said. Earlier this month, he had been suspended for nine months over the betting scandal.
The investigation has rocked Turkish football, with six referees placed in pre-trial detention on November 10, along with the president of Eyupspor, a club in Turkey's top Super Lig division.
Prosecutors did not identify the other 26 players suspected of bets involving their own teams, but said Mert Hakan Yandas, who plays for Fenerbahce, another major Istanbul club, had placed bets through someone else's account.
The prosecutor's office said police had so far detained 35 of the 46 people named in the arrest order. Five were known to be currently abroad, it said.
Zero goal attempts
Two club presidents were among those targeted by the order for "attempting to influence the outcome" of a match between their two third-division teams in the 2023-2024 season, the statement said.
The match had caught the attention of investigators because neither side had even made one attempt to score a goal, Turkish media reported, with several newspapers saying that was where the entire investigation began.
Six other suspects, one of them a player, are accused of conspiring to influence the result of a second-division clash between Umraniyespor and Giresunspor in December 2023.
A first-division referee, the ex-president of second-division side Adana Demirspor, and a well-known football commentator and his wife were also targeted for "suspect financial transactions" in their bank accounts.
So far, the Turkish Football Federation (TFF) -- which has said it wants to "clean up" the beautiful game in Turkey -- has suspended more than 1,000 players, 25 of them from the Super Lig, with the sanctions ranging from 45 days to 12 months.
Only one was a foreign national -- Konyaspor's Senegalese winger Alassane Ndao, who was suspended for 12 months.
In October, the TFF suspended nearly 150 referees for betting on matches, all of whom have since been dismissed.
Zero goal attempts.
Two club presidents were among those targeted by the order for "attempting to influence the outcome" of a match between their two third-division teams in the 2023-2024 season, the statement said.
The match had caught the attention of investigators because neither side had even made one attempt to score a goal, Turkish media reported, with several newspapers saying that was where the entire investigation began.
Six other suspects, one of them a player, are accused of conspiring to influence the result of a second-division clash between Umraniyespor and Giresunspor in December 2023.
A first-division referee, the ex-president of second-division side Adana Demirspor, and a well-known football commentator and his wife were also targeted for "suspect financial transactions" in their bank accounts.
So far, the Turkish Football Federation (TFF) -- which has said it wants to "clean up" the beautiful game in Turkey -- has suspended more than 1,000 players, 25 of them from the Super Lig, with the sanctions ranging from 45 days to 12 months.
Only one was a foreign national -- Konyaspor's Senegalese winger Alassane Ndao, who was suspended for 12 months.
In October, the TFF suspended nearly 150 referees for betting on matches, all of whom have since been dismissed.
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