Gary Neville decides to end his career.

Well done,funny for the kids and the parents,Pixar might offer you job as a writer.

ain't free speech wonderful

Gary Neville has sparked a furious online backlash after his comments on the Manchester synagogue attack descended into a rant about 'angry middle-aged white men' dividing Britain by raising Union flags.

The former Manchester United and England defender made the comments around 24 hours after worshippers at the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation were attacked by Syrian-born terrorist Jihad Al-Shamie.

Neville, 50, began his video, which he posted to LinkedIn on Friday, by saying: 'Seeing the news last night and the news this morning dominated by the horrific attacks within the Jewish community, just a mile from here.'

But after pausing to take a breath as he walked down the street, Neville bizarrely switched his attention to the raising of flags - a movement called 'Operation Raise the Colours' which has gripped swathes of Britain this year.

He continued: 'When I was driving to Salford City last night, going down Littleton Road, I seen probably 50 or 60 Union Jack flags. And on the way back I went down the parallel road, Bury New Road, which has got the Jewish community right at its heart and they’re out on the streets, defiant, not hiding or in fear.

'I just kept thinking as I was driving home last night that we’re all being turned on each other. And the division that’s being created is absolutely disgusting. Mainly created by angry, middle-aged white men, who know exactly what they’re doing.

'Funnily enough on one of my development sites last week there was a Union Jack flag put up and I took it down instantly.'

The former defender, who now works as a pundit for Sky Sports when away from his £100million business empire spanning hospitality, property development and media, quickly moved to hit back at any claims he was being unpatriotic by doing so

He said: 'I played for my country 85 times, I love my country. I love Manchester and I love England, but I’ve been building in this city for 15 to 20 years and there’s no one put a Union Jack flag up in the last 15 to 20 years, so why do you have to put one up now?

'Quite clearly it’s sending a message to everybody that there’s something you don’t like.

'The Union Jack flag being used in a negative fashion is not right and I’m a proud supporter of England, Great Britain, of our country, and I’ll champion it anywhere in the world as one of the greatest places to live.

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'But I think we need to check ourselves, bring ourselves back to a neutral point, because we’re being pulled right and left and we don’t need to be, at all.'

While many agreed with Neville's sentiments that Britain should be on a united front, many in the Jewish community slammed him for going off on the tangent on a video he had titled 'Thoughts on the horrible scenes in Manchester'.

Barrie Taube, who works as a managing director for several property and finance companies, thanked Neville for his support of British Jews but insisted that the division is not being caused by 'middle-aged white men'.

He said: 'It's caused by antisemitic comments by bands such as Kneecap and other influential figures who give this legitimacy so that young people think this is OK.  It is about education, stopping hate marches and acts of kindness.

'The Labour Government which you champion so much has a lot to answer for.'

Mr Taube added that he even had to wear a bulletproof vest while working on security at his synagogue in Hale, saying: 'This is what life is like now for Jews in the UK.'

Another Jewish Briton, Oli Kristall, who works for a technology company in Leeds, said: 'Gary - I love your views on football but - respectfully, the start of your video was great but then it turned into tackling a totally wrong issue.

After speaking briefly about Thursday's attack on Jews in Manchester, Neville switched his attention to the raising of flags - a movement called 'Operation Raise the Colours' which has gripped swathes of Britain this year (as seen above)
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After speaking briefly about Thursday's attack on Jews in Manchester, Neville switched his attention to the raising of flags - a movement called 'Operation Raise the Colours' which has gripped swathes of Britain this year (as seen above)

'What have your views on Union Jack flags or "English white men" got to do with targeted murders on Jews yesterday in Manchester? It is totally wrong to turn yesterday’s murders into a way of making a point about something else!'

Annette Gordon, who has worked as a TV producer for major broadcasters in Britain such as ITV and Channel 4, replied to Neville's post to say he was following 'an approved narrative that is basically pretty biased'.

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The producer asked: 'Is it really just "white middle-aged men"? You've kind of fallen into the trap that you say we are all in which is pointing the finger at one group and thereby polarising the argument. It is way more complex than that.'

Others who disagreed with Neville's sentiments simply urged him to 'Stick to Football', in a reference to the title of the podcast he hosts.

Neville concluded his video by recalling his footballing memories at Old Trafford, where he shared a dressing room with British players as well as Africans, Asians, Americans and Europeans.

But in another twist, the former footballer then added: 'Brexit has had a devastating impact on this country and the messaging is getting extremely dangerous.

'All these idiots out there spreading hate speech and abuse in any form, we must stop promoting them.

'We must stop elevating our voices towards them and it needs to stop now, and get back to a country of peace, love, harmony and become a team again.'

F I L T H

ain't free speech wonderful

Oct 5, 2025 -- 9:43PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

ain't free speech wonderful

“Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech.”
― Noam Chomsky

Very good guy Gary Neville, wouldn't say he was brilliant player but Sir Alex trusted him since he was young kid, maybe that is were his good thoughts come from.

My disagreement with Neville is that it isn't the middle aged white blokes. They're just the useful idiots being used as pawns.


Go behind that. It's the global and extremely well-funded group of white supremacists. They're the ones paying for these flags, and paying Tommy a small fortune to organise his minions to put them up. And it's not because these foreign white supremacists love England so much. I mean, you'd have to be slug-level thick to think that. It's simply to sow more division, to make minorities feel unwelcome or undeserving. I pity the poor fools who look at the flags and think "well where's the harm?" Christ, imagine how naive! And there are loads of people like that. People need to get unglued from the cancer coming through their phones.

Oct 5, 2025 -- 9:50PM, MALAY wrote:

Very good guy Gary Neville, wouldn't say he was brilliant player but Sir Alex trusted him since he was young kid, maybe that is were his good thoughts come from.

I bet you get all your news from Reddit.

That was aimed at Porcupine.

Not at all sofa. I looked at reddit once but found it hard work.

Mad though that some think we all play on a level playing field. Look at mes's article and the conflation of Neville's ire at the flags with anti-semitism. Some people on the right just aren't interested in questioning things like that. They just like to buy into the idea that 2+2=5 in cases like this. That the current Israeli government inviting a known and evidenced anti-semite to Israel is a GOOD THING and people who protest against evidenced and independently and expertly-judged genocide and ethnic cleansing are nothing but racists who  are BAD. That they don't question the money and influence behind all of this, and the effort that goes into influencing people every moment of every day. And yes it goes both ways, but we've reached the stage where the number of organisations reaching the conclusion of Israel's war crimes is legion, and the notion that the accusers are simply believing Hamas is obviously a joke. While on the other hand, you don't have to dig very far to see the links of the white supremacist movements, the massive influence from the likes of Musk, Thiel and Vance in spreading their rhetoric and how their own (deeply-held) anti-semitism is only being veiled as it's convenient to align and target the muslims first.

Again, this isn't highbrow, difficult or deeply buried stuff. If you can't see it, it's because you've decided not to see it.

Sofia if it was aimed at porcupine why was I referenced when I have no idea who porcupine is and btw I don't like pineapple, remember it used to get served with gammon steak, disgusting.

He just copied the wrong post by mistake

yeah, tobes. the old "let's put flags up everywhere" is just an organic movement where thousands of individuals individually decided individually to put their own flags up.



Again, if you don't see it it's because you don't want to see it. Just don't try to kid on to the rest of us that it's not there.

Well firstly, we haven't been flooded. If you want to use third world specifically, then the number from there is actually very small.



Secondly, the real reason is because it's capitalists and their demand for the cheap labour. It's not actually politicians at all, apart from their remarkable ability to be hoodwinked and coerced. But it's the businesses that are applying for work visas that are bringing people over.

You can draw deeper arguments about education, training and opportunities for our own population, you can ask about whether we've been suckered into thinking paying so little to get our takeaway delivered is fine, and into thinking whether the firms offering services like this are doing it because they're just lovely or if maybe it's because no-one else will take the job and their profits would be severely affected. Or you can forget all that, let the people influencing and making those decisions get off scot free, and instead blame the poor people coming here and looking to get a job to pay the bills before they move on to something better.


Depends on what you want to and not want to see I suppose.

to the mods.

God knows why you removed the two posts I replied to. Not sure there was anything offensive in there. They were massively wrong but not particularly offensive. Let us discuss these issues like grown ups please. Removing non-offensive posts isn't helpful.

Oct 5, 2025 -- 10:25PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

yeah, tobes. the old "let's put flags up everywhere" is just an organic movement where thousands of individuals individually decided individually to put their own flags up. Again, if you don't see it it's because you don't want to see it. Just don't try to kid on to the rest of us that it's not there.

Thousands of people thought it was a good idea.

Oct 5, 2025 -- 11:07PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

to the mods.God knows why you removed the two posts I replied to. Not sure there was anything offensive in there. They were massively wrong but not particularly offensive. Let us discuss these issues like grown ups please. Removing non-offensive posts isn't helpful.

Thread could end up with just your posts at this rate

Yes the insane number of visas are driven by big business (and universities that basically sell visas). The 'Migration Advisory Committee' is  a straightforward big business lobbying operation.

The OSBR rules for government borrowing practically require mass immigration.

But politicians either created these quangos or consider them indispensable.

And the illegal immigration, while smaller in number, just seems insane to the majority of people. 60,000 a year just barging in, completely destitute, and they end up in HMOs that are converted from houses that British people have been evicted from. Every time one of them commits a crime people ask why was he here? And the answer is refugee convention and ECHR.

Oct 5, 2025 -- 11:17PM, tobermory wrote:

Oct  5, 2025 -- 10:25PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:yeah, tobes. the old "let's put flags up everywhere" is just an organic movement where thousands of individuals individually decided individually to put their own flags up. Again, if you don't see it it's because you don't want to see it. Just don't try to kid on to the rest of us that it's not there.Thousands of people thought it was a good idea.

Did they though?

Is there actually any evidence for that. Rather than it actually being dozens of people provided with ladders and flags instead?

"One is one too many."



We used to be a country that would offer save haven to someone freeing oppression or the threat of death. No more apparently. But remember how it's so important we don't lose our values.

In Ireland we have 32,000 registered NGOs and the government has funded them to the tune of almost €7bn a year for the past 5 years. Non-Governmental Organisations.

They lobby for open borders and things like hate-speech laws. Then the government listens to them and bases policy on their lobbying. Completely astroturfed.

I'm sure it's similar in Britain but not as laughable.

One is one too many - I'm not talking about genuine refugees or asylum seekers. But we are letting people get on planes with passports and they get off without them. Refuse every single one - vast majority are criminals. We are letting people in from eg Ukraine and other 'unsafe' countries and they are going back to visit relatives and returning. That is not a genuine asylum seeker or refugee. Not one of them goes back if they are. Then we have people coming undocumented from 'safe' countries and letting them in. One of them is one too many. The rules on asylum state that you must seek asylum in the first 'safe' place, so ALL the asylum seekers from boats on France and the EU should be refused.

In Ireland we have the EU migration pact - this was signed up to by politicians without putting it to the people. Again, there is a reason for that - they knew what the answer would be.

The UK it's actually worse because you're not part of the EU any more. You know... Brexit which was about 'taking back control' of your borders. Yet you are taking boats from the EU.

And you think the majority of people are in favour of all of this? The government are not hoodwinked, they know exactly what they're doing. You've been hoodwinked into thinking most people are in favour of this. It's more like 80/20 against. The government know this well.

And the answer is refugee convention and ECHR.



Isn't the answer actually poverty or y'know any of the other myriad reasons british people might commit crimes. Or do non-brits simply think differently now? Cos I'm pretty sure the huge majority of immigrants in this country are actually not criminals and no-one seems to bother to ask why so many of them decide to not commit crime. We seem to have moved on from the lie of them taking our jobs and our benefits to them all being criminals, and loads of people seem to have not noticed or thought to ask if they're being lied to. Apparemtly immigrants are just bad, and if you disagree or think it might be a bit more nuanced than that you're un-British or anti-semitic or something equally stupid.

Again though, if you don't see that it's probably because you don't want to see that.


And if so, it's absolutely pointless me being here. Cos your mind's made up and you're completely closed to anything that doesn't confirm the narrative you've swallowed.

So why bother? Waste of time as usual. Right. Not sure why I ended up on here again. Blame it on the whskey. A little more nuanced than the mad troll politics forum on here but still... Anyway, back to the real offline world tomorrow. Ciao tutti.

The rules on asylum state that you must seek asylum in the first 'safe' place, so ALL the asylum seekers from boats on France and the EU should be refused.



Your legal training is letting you down.

Moderators are not working this time of night on a forum that's on a life support machine, your posts were reported several times, probably by several different accounts belonging to one or two people who didn't like them, who get them removed by hammering away at the report button, posts reported a certain amount of times is automatically removed but is reviewed by a mod when wakes up to decide whether a ban is in order. Of course the moderator by in large has no idea of context even when reviewing posts as spats between posters linger from thread to thread in some cases.

Anyway

It's laughable to think Neville will be sacked, he works for Comcast who own Sky, ever since they've taken over Sky their recruitment has gone full throttle overdrive into diversity and inclusion from lead presenters to side presenters to match day reporters to pundits, hence the canning of all these middle aged white guys on soccer Saturday replaced by mixed raced lesbian Sue Smith and plastic Gangasta', Clinton Morrison, from Lads favourites Natalie Sawyer and Kirsty Gallagher to Jessica Creighton (one with the birds next barnet) and Bela Shah, and the likes of Micah Ricahrds and Sturridge becoming more prominent on big match days. Clear box ticking though soccer Saturday definitely became stale and boring but it went backwards in terms of quality of pundit, Thompson/Nichols/Le Tissier where either winners at the very top level or high calibre players so you could but into what they say and had great chemistry -  Dawson, Smith, Kris Boyd and Morrison are massive comedowns and the show is now unwatchable, wooden personalities who were all bang average players.

So Neville knows full well he is placing himself on safe ground, he's not going after the minorities that his employer has bent over backwards to integrate into their organisation making them the faces and voices of Sky. Going after minorities is the final death knell in anyone's media career.

When they say the truth is usually somewhere in the middle this is a prime example, there are many who genuinely feel the country is becoming less British because of immigration reflected in multi ethnic schools, towns and work places and this flag thing is their backlash, but then there are other who are outright racists who want to blame immigrants for everything - usually the state of their own lives.

Incidentally, Last I read in May Sky's subscriber base and profit levels had plummeted, if they ever lost Premier League football which seems inevitable at the end of their latest broadcast deal in 2029, they are finished.


Kind Regards.

even the opening post has been removed.

The response to logical argument is always labelling by the people trying to justify madness like this because they have no rational argument to support their insane policies.

The latest one is 'far-right'. If you are in favour of tearing up decades if not centuries old immigration policies and things like borders, that is more liberal than at any time in history. That means you have moved as far left as ever and everyone else is far to the right. It also means that the centre is moved a large chunk left as it is the average. This means that people who were formerly centre left are now centre right and people who were centre right are now medium right. This means that on the issue of mass-immigration, 80+% of people will are now right of centre despite their politics not changing at all.

'them all being criminals' is just a strawman point.

Clearly people from 3rd world countries have far higher rates of offending.

We have open borders with no vetting, and even if we find out for certain they are violent criminals, they can't be deported due to EC   HR.

The vast majority consider this insane and don't need Tommy Robinson to tell them.

I think it's a safe policy and presumption that if someone gets on a plane with a passport and gets off without one that they are a criminal. It's irrelevant whether you're right or not, it's a perfectly reasonable position for a well-run country to take. I shouldn't even have to write this. I'm not talking about a genuine refugee who has no passport to begin with

Are you singing/dancing lurka?  If you are in you are in, and if you are out you are out, and if you are only halfway in you are neither in nor out.
Walofs.  From all.
Ask any young mother of three or four what they feel about not being able to get a house because non-brits have higher priority and you may begin to understand the root of the problem.  And as long as the phucking idiot intelligentsia who call their ( and our ) complaints racism the worse and worse the discontent will ferment and reveal itself.

Oct 5, 2025 -- 11:57PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

The rules on asylum state that you must seek asylum in the first 'safe' place, so ALL the asylum seekers from boats on France and the EU should be refused.Your legal training is letting you down.

You are correct but there is also the right to return asylum seekers to the first country, which any well run country should exercise, especially when an applican has come from the EU.

Oct 6, 2025 -- 1:04AM, LoyalHoncho wrote:

Are you singing/dancing lurka?

Honcho are you unclear on what my position is?

No, just the seeming drivel you deliver trying to explain it.

Gary Neville is the ultimate champagne socialist, never stops moaning about the evils of capitalism whilst benefitting massively from it, hypocrite.

And isn't he just an angry middle aged white man as well ?

Plenty of flags hanging from peoples windows in my village, all independently put up PoP. We've often flown them, as have neighbouring villages.
No white supremacists here to my knowledge.

Residents are just sick of being taken for granted by successive governments and it's a small show of defiance by many, a sort of "I'm Spartacus" moment if you like.
People really are proud of their country, despite what the likes of Neville may say.

The flag raising in the UK and Ireland is clearly a grassroots and organic movement. No hidden hand is purchasing flags for residents of disadvantaged areas. Absolute nonsense from Porcupine. A larger percentage of people have had enough of being treated like second class citizens in comparison to newly arrived (mostly) economic migrants and they've had enough of the two-tier justice system. Thousands getting arrested by the Starm-troopers for spicy social media posts and the digital ID should be a real wake up call.

Worst possible thing to happen for Robinson, Reform et al would be for the boats to actually stop, this issue has been used by the far right to peddle their hate and with the support of far less extremist type people happy to march for the cause without realizing that although they may have noble and innocent intentions, they are being used and this has allowed the issue to become the perfect Trojan Horse for Robinson and his ilk to be able to develop a huge platform and tap into,infect and indoctrinate the public consciousness.

“stop the boats” issue is a vehicle, not an end in itself, for the far right. If it disappeared tomorrow, their oxygen supply would dwindle – but until then, it does act as a Trojan Horse letting them reach audiences who’d never otherwise march under an explicitly far-right banner.

Neville is right, these flag raisers and roundabout painters didn’t come out of nowhere, funds for this campaign come from elsewhere, probably Russia. Rip them down where you can.

Dixie "champagne socialist" is a stupid term, are socialist not allowed to drink champagne ? I enjoy a glass now and then.

always thought gn bit of a n0b

There was an interview a while back by the Under the Cosh podcast with Rod Thornley (Ex Man Utd masseuse).

He stated at one stage before the Glaziers bought Utd the club staff would share a portion of the income from MUTV as a bonus and would also get a top up from a player collection (Think a kind of Crimbo bonus).

Anyway the Glaziers bought the club and put an end to it stating the TV income was in total due to the club. He stated Neville then stated if the club weren't contributing then the players wouldnt either.

The next time they were doing the overlap, Keane was bi*ching and moaning about Thornley without naming him.

He showed them (Neville in particular) up as the self serving c**ts they are.

As for the flags. If thats the worst thing happening in the UK, then they are lucky. Let them fly the flags and ignore them. They will eventually tire of it and find something or someone else to blame for their crap lives.

"just rinsed by Simon Jordan who called him a coward and a champagne socialists who doesn't have the balls to call out radicalised Islamists, and maybe some of these angry middle aged white men are the one's on minimum wage working in one of his Manchester Hotels, he's insulated from the real world, his money and privilege has enabled him to live in a gated environment where he doesn't have to worry about NHS appointments, not have to worry about immigrants attacking people in the street, it's an appalling stance to take, we're happy to wave every other flag, but when people in this country have legitimate concerns and want to push back against the things forced upon them, it embodies everything I've just said about him, he's a coward"



I wonder if he posts on here?

Malay its not a stupid term, of course it doesn't mean you cannot drink champagne (now that really is silly to suggest).
The term has been around for over a century and could hardly fit the likes of Gary Neville any better :


The term 'champagne socialist', often used pejoratively, refers to the perceived hypocrisy of liberal middle-class people who advocate for socialist ideals while continuing to enjoy their own affluent lifestyles.


It could be expected that any accusations of hypocrisy when it comes to middle-class socialism would be coming chiefly from the political right. Yet some of the most vociferous attacks of champagne socialism have emanated from left-wing voices.

A notable example is Ramsay MacDonald, the first Labour prime minister of the United Kingdom. He would be called a traitor to his party’s egalitarian principles throughout his time in office, with critics lambasting his hobnobbing with the British elite.

SJ is an opportunist sock cooker.

Always makes me laff hearing that wnker talking about boxing, just fur cough you piece of sh1te.

Dixie you can still have socialist views and have money and drink nice drinks, Sir Alex has a piano. Read his book on his views on politics. Im sure Everton player Dixie earned a nice few quid too, was he not allowed to spend it ?
I'm not wanting to fall out as I respect you're football views.

Of course you can have those views Malay, but do you not see the hypocrisy of slagging off capitalism whilst enjoying all it's fruits ?

If only dixie did have a "nice few quid" he wouldn't have had to run a pub in Chester after retiring or work as a porter for Littlewoods Pools !
Although he was a pro at Everton, wages were not great and were in keeping with the common man, unlike today. He would of course have earned a fortune in the modern era.

Neville began his career at the advent of the Premier League and thus became a multi millionaire. His principles haven't extended as far as refusing the Murdoch shilling have they, he's a hypocrite.

Dixie not a great fan of Neville he obviously was a failed coach but is a very successful pundit telling everybody what is wrong, but you could say that about most of them, if they were any good they would be managing rather than on TV.
Anyway respect you're support of Dixie Dean Everton and English football legend no doubts on that.

Spot on RQ. 12.12. ,particularly the final paragraph.
With you mesmerised, 12.29.
Usual “quality”contributions from Colonel Christy, who continually whinges about fictional abuse but never ceases to indulge in it himself.  You have to laugh.

Those white middle aged men have paid his wages for the last 30 yrs,what a twot he is sometimes.Give ya head a wobble you orrible little Manc.

Oct 6, 2025 -- 5:12PM, LoyalHoncho wrote:

Spot on RQ. 12.12. ,particularly the final paragraph.With you mesmerised, 12.29.Usual “quality”contributions from Colonel Christy, who continually whinges about fictional abuse but never ceases to indulge in it himself.

horrible vile individual

It is you constantly complaining about ‘abuse’ not me honcho you t1t. If you can just point me to anywhere where I have complained that would be useful. You are either thinking of someone else or more likely senile.

Evening Crusty Bro , please tell me which wonderful Multi Cultural Town you live in

I’d reply to you but have decided to sort out the sock drawer instead.

I’ll ask the mrs her opinion, I know you are probably a sandal wearer yourself.

Angry men getting even angrier


Gary Neville is not set to face any action from Sky over his outburst against 'angry middle-aged white men'

Stringvest was in the nick before, nonce he was.

Stringvest 06 Oct 25 18:20 
Sock drawers are for To$$ers who cant pull a Bird Laugh


Wonderful irony there

What is ironic is Neville talked about division but all these comments have done is cause division, people follow him for football, football being the greatest form of escapism from people's everyday lives, yet he keeps dragging them into the sphere and swamp of the convoluted, devious and downright deranged world of murky politics, thanks to the instantaneity of news foisted upon us in a heartbeat via social and mass media, all of our ears are then drowned in this nonsense whether we like it or not. Further irony is it's international fortnight with where more flags will be waved around than usual which'll only help to drag the story out longer than it should be.

Gary Lineker essentially and eventually lost his job for branching out and venturing down the same divisive political path Neville is, either he is also comfortable with the thought of losing his position and platform in Broadcasting or more likely thinks it's completely safe ground talking about angry white men given he's working for Comcast who've replaced a lot of white workers with those from multicultural backgrounds in recent years, which in a lot of instances was correct as it didn't really reflect the differing shades of skin and backgrounds of it viewers given the diverseness of the country, it was near all white, in other instances moving on former high claibre football players come pundits with low quality nobodies like Morrison, Dawson and a female pro nobody has seen play, wasn't.

He should in my opinion stick to football, if he wants to be a political activist he should do it full time, then I could switch over to LBC or TalkRadio to listen to him if I choose and where these sort of opinions belong.

By the way, he's not a champagne socialists, he's too tight to buy champagne.

Kind Regards.

Talk about
Angry white middle age men
There so many off shoots on here
That try get one up on the other
It is great reading on here turns gives this angry soul bit light laughter in the evening

Still can’t get 200lb tuna on his line out of my head
Does make me smile

Saw a lot of lefty MPs and hangers on saying about how the flags being put up were not welcoming to our overseas friends, racist etc
Labour Party conference last week... All waving little Union Jack and cross of St George flags... Couldn't make it up

I couldn’t give a fig whether you abuse me or not CC.  It’s all water off of a duck’s back to me. 
And btw, your post of 18.00. simply proves my point.
You can’t help yourself.