MAN UTD v ARSENAL 4.30pm TODAY

United start the season with Bayindir between the sticks

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Turkish Delight for the Arsenal forwards

be packed around the ground as manchester originals are playing just around the corner. travel will be a nightmare

Looks like a BTTS kind of game, Mybe 2-1 Arsenal, but not one to bet on with any degree of confidence.

I've no idea what'll happen here. I'll go with a Desmond, 2-2 FT.

But Casemiro is playing
Its an AWAY WIN

HTF do you spend half a BN quid and start with
shaw,dalot,cassimerio and mount ,FOOKING staggering, win,lose or draw

first touch too heavy Mbuemo, took him wide

0-1

that was poor

weak goalkeeping

1/2 BN spend and a Sunday morning pub goalkeeper

Aug 17, 2025 -- 4:28PM, 1st time poster wrote:

HTF do you spend half a BN quid and start with shaw,dalot,cassimerio and mount ,FOOKING staggering, win,lose or draw

And no keeper

Who's this keeper?

stevie wonder

Fernandez 1st goal assist of the season

defensively nothing has changed really, martinez is the only upgrade and he's out for a while yet

1 down at home 7 arsenal  defenders in box not a single UTD player

We bought a striker but aren't playing him

Odegaarde not weighting the pass very well

Calafioro going for the hat trick - Goal, yellow and red.  Has two from three at present.  43 mins.

Man U have played well, tbf.

Arsenal will be please United haven't fielded a striker

Mason Mount up front lol.

he had good 1st half

not impressed with Arsenal so far

I can't see Arsenal finishing second this year.

Gyokeres awful

can't afford anyone better, might be their undoing again. settle for 2nd or 3rd best instead of the players they really want or need.

Man U turning the screw. Only a matter of time before they equalise.

camera save

good block

Arsenal defended well, but Utd better side really

Good game for first week.

Man utd much improved, (need a goalie)
Arsenal not great but stuck in,

Been a fascinating first week, if not hitting the heights

Frantic opening game of the season that. Arsenal will be delighted with the points. United the better side by a distance. If Arsenal continue to play like that they won’t be challenging Liverpool, Spurs or Man City for the title.

thought that was a much better performance from utd than much of last season but they do';t give any service to the forwards, hojland got slaughtered and as bad as he is if sesko gets similar supply then he won't do much either

Several Arsenal players off the pace, a bit like that pre-season as well. Utd played well 1st half; never looked likely to me 2nd half. Keepers made the difference, Bayindir rubbish defending Arsenal corner, Raya made one world class save.

I don't know how many hundreds of millions Cunha, mbumbo, Tesco and Gyorkes cost but all four got outscored by a left back.

very happy with laying of gooners in outright on that performace ...early days mind

United played very well in certain big games last season too with energy and passion. If they can play like they did then and today against other teams then they'll have an okay season.

Arsenal were not great. They need Saka and Odegaard to play with equal threat as one gives the other space. They can’t double team both.

I thought there were flashes of  MO so I am hoping for a return to his brilliant ways but I would also like to see Nwaneri given a chance.

Arsenal had an awesome looking bench. They will be there or there abouts but look way off the pace at this stage.

Arsenal were not great. They need Saka and Odegaard to play with equal threat as one gives the other space. They can’t double team both.

I thought there were flashes of  MO so I am hoping for a return to his brilliant ways but I would also like to see Nwaneri given a chance.

Arsenal had an awesome looking bench. They will be there or there abouts but look way off the pace at this stage.

Nice to get a win at Old Trafford. Martinelli & Gyokeres were both poor and even Ødegaard, Rice and Saka were average by their high standards. Havertz looked hungry when he came on, a plus. Man Utd had loads of possession and played with passion a positive start without a result on this occasion.

Looks like the officials are going to clamp down on time wasting, this season, let's hope it is applied consistently. Early last season they clamped down on kicking the ball away and then seemed to give up completely on the idea.

Thought Havertz looked as bad as ever, also got away with begging for a yellow after he was ‘fouled’, another thing that is applied according to who the ref is/ how he is feeling the game.

Saliba still cheating at corners. I don't know why they don't declare all corners WWF and anything goes including knives.

Saliba superb at corners, Knife comment s bit pathetic tbh.

When ezes goal went in against Chelsea, social media was
abuzz with folk saying Guehi had done nowt wrong
and Chelsea guy has to be stronger.

Of course he pushed him so far that goal was ruled out
for encroaching the wall.

We are told all the time it's a man's game and
he's been out muscled or out strengthed.

But then folk claim the foul when they lose out.

We are told oh he's dived and counter argument
he's entitled to go down.. There was contact.

Tough job for a ref, innit.

Could go to basketball rules and ban physical
contact... Don't think that works in footy

Saliba has been trained to cheat.

Tough job for a ref, innit.

Not really. There is a rule book and he has 2 assistants and a video referee.

4 officials should be able to spot fouls and enforce the rules.

They are neutral, or should be, and players
from all side are trained to push the laws and
test the boundaries of subjectivity.

We all want our team to get more favourable
outcomes.

One real var error this week and it favoured Bournemouth.

Refereeing and var error

When the ball goes in the net is it not the VAR's job to check no rules were broken?

Everyone watching Sky could see Saliba manhandling Mount in order to obstruct the United goalkeeper.

How come Howard Webb hasn't stood down the VAR?

Can anyone name another sport where the rules are ignored.... by the referees?

Rugby? Tennis? Cricket? Golf? Chess? Darts?

Knife comment s bit pathetic tbh.

You want to pick and choose the rules that are applied?

If Calafiori hadn't scored, the ref could have given a penalty for Cunha's manhandling of Zubimendi, which was far worse than Saliba backing into Mount. But as Roy Keane said they're not playing chess...

If Cunha was fouling Zubimendi in the box then a penalty should have been awarded.

My point is simple, the game has laws, those laws should be enforced without exception as they are done in every other sport.

Football is unique in that referees are allowed to decide which rules to enforce game by game.

Cunha did practically throw Zubamendi to the ground, you simply can't stop it, they tried to clamp down on it in the past and awarded a few pens but then bottled it, they are more worried about the farce of half a dozen pens every game compared to wrestling at every corner. A wrestling match at every corner is more palatable than half a dozen pens being awarded.

All that PGMO have to do is enforce the law for 1 weekend and the problem would go way. As it stands with the refs deciding whether or not to enforce the laws they are open to allegations of favouritism or worse still corruption.

It didn't go away when they enforced it at world cup
Harry Kane got about a million pelanties and they
backed down.. Well 3 or so anyway.

A PGMO tweet from 15th August 2025



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Well the referee & VAR just interpret as best they could. Thankfully the days of Mike Riley at Old Trafford are long gone. What was Simon Hooper going to do there? Disallow goal and give penalty to Arsenal for Cunha's manhandling of Zubimendi or disallow goal and award free kick to Man Utd for Saliba's backing into Mount? Of course not, he allowed goal and VAR confirmed his decision after looking at the usual array of grappling which goes on for every corner. Correct decision. Mount was not physically strong enough to cope with Saliba and the goal was conceded due to the keeper being unable to command the six-yard box from an in-swinging corner. Roy Keene's analysis was spot on.

The correct decision was to ignore the rules of the game

Do they do that in Rugby for incidents where there are multiple infractions?

No need to answer that.

They didn't ignore the rules of the game they applied them the same as in every other game. You just have a crazy fixation about Saliba, get over it...

If you say so.