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Who on earth dreamt this rubbish up?
Players should be having a break now. No wonder there are so many injuries.
As for overseas tours.... don't get me started.
Players should be having a break now. No wonder there are so many injuries.
As for overseas tours.... don't get me started.
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Jul 1, 2025 -- 7:43AM, n88uk wrote:
This will be the beginning of the end of the Premier League as the Saudi league becomes the most attractive league to play in the world, offering more money, and more access to CWC which will overtake CL as world's premier competition, while Premier League will have nothing left to offer and become second fiddle.
The Saudi league has had Ronaldo for 3 years and I have never met anyone that has watched a single game. The CWC is a huge flop with tens of thousands of empty seats. Not seen any fan of Liverpool or Arsenal bemoaning not being in it.
Jul 1, 2025 -- 10:56AM, n88uk wrote:
The inevitable global super league similar to LIV tour will not primarily be played in Saudi either, and the money will dwarf EPL money.
LIV Golf is a huge bust isn't it 
n88uk,
I'd say where you are going wrong is assuming the amount of money an entity - Saudi Arabia in this case - is prepared to pay for something is determining it's value.
And that the Premier League/Champion's League are popular due to how much money is spent on the TV rights. No, the level of fan interest determines the true value of the rights. They have intrinsic value.
If what Lurka posted about the Saudi/DAZN deal is correct then we can deduce that the true value of the Club World Cup is basically nothing (another clue to this is that DAZN's UK broadcast partner is Channel 5).
Plastic competitions like the CWC & LIV Golf are basically worthless. As would be a 'Super League'. It simply doesn't matter how much money the Saudis put up. The question you have to ask is, if the Saudi regime was overthrown by jihadis, how much would some other entity pay for the rights to this stuff? The Saudis have a political purpose to all this. Nobody else does.
I'd say where you are going wrong is assuming the amount of money an entity - Saudi Arabia in this case - is prepared to pay for something is determining it's value.
And that the Premier League/Champion's League are popular due to how much money is spent on the TV rights. No, the level of fan interest determines the true value of the rights. They have intrinsic value.
If what Lurka posted about the Saudi/DAZN deal is correct then we can deduce that the true value of the Club World Cup is basically nothing (another clue to this is that DAZN's UK broadcast partner is Channel 5).
Plastic competitions like the CWC & LIV Golf are basically worthless. As would be a 'Super League'. It simply doesn't matter how much money the Saudis put up. The question you have to ask is, if the Saudi regime was overthrown by jihadis, how much would some other entity pay for the rights to this stuff? The Saudis have a political purpose to all this. Nobody else does.
How many clubs turned down an invite to this event?
It's not like they had to choose this over the premier league or CL. Which would be the case with a Super League.
The European club coaches seems unenthused, the owners figured they'd get $30M or so. So they played it the same way they do overseas tours.
The European club coaches seems unenthused, the owners figured they'd get $30M or so. So they played it the same way they do overseas tours.
The CWC is a land grab. A $1 billion land grab.
FIFA will fine tune it and it'll improve. It'll be back.
FIFA will fine tune it and it'll improve. It'll be back.
£40 million nearly pays for a new striker
Interesting to see what sort of
pre season Chelsea and citeh have.
Interesting to see what sort of
pre season Chelsea and citeh have.
It's free to watch on DAZN, you just have to register and download their app. They get zero sub revenue from it. They haven't got Amazon revenues to do what Amazon did with their PL slots, which cost them 20-30m a season.
The whole thing is astroturfed by the Saudis, not organic, made to look like a TV co paid for the rights when literally nobody was interested. It's like paying 1bn for the Emirates Cup with a few more groups in it and fewer fans. City have played it smartly, got the bulk of the max revenues and got out of there almost 2 weeks before the final.
Simply not worth it for any top CL side. Buy yourself a new squad player with the money and likely lose revenues next season from under-performing, fatigued players with more injuries. For everyone else it is their only chance to make revenues like that.
The whole thing is astroturfed by the Saudis, not organic, made to look like a TV co paid for the rights when literally nobody was interested. It's like paying 1bn for the Emirates Cup with a few more groups in it and fewer fans. City have played it smartly, got the bulk of the max revenues and got out of there almost 2 weeks before the final.
Simply not worth it for any top CL side. Buy yourself a new squad player with the money and likely lose revenues next season from under-performing, fatigued players with more injuries. For everyone else it is their only chance to make revenues like that.
Bayern have flattered to deceive to some extent. They started fast against Flamengo, but allowed the Brazilian side back into the game, Kane took his goals really well, but his forward line team mates were not up to the same standard. Sane was as wasteful as ever, always seems to miss good chances or play the wrong pass, Gnabry was ineffective and Olise had a pretty poor match. Add to that a shaky Bayern defence and PSG look a great bet at 2.54.
0-1 Bayern and deserved really, but ..VAR , PSG defending really well, Bayern played well this half, better than I expected,
Been a decent 1st half.
Not sure how the bad injury will affect the 2nd half
Not sure how the bad injury will affect the 2nd half
anybody's game so far, both sides have had good chances. Bayern slightly the better side, tbh.
pen Bayern, not sure how much contact, will be overturned, imo.
Real madrid game should be entertaining
and i can watch
and i can watch
Life can be fleeting.
No doubt this time last week Diogo Jota was watching the CWC with his brother, today they are both in the ground and at the CWC they are displaying a photo of the pair of them and having a moment to remember them.
No doubt this time last week Diogo Jota was watching the CWC with his brother, today they are both in the ground and at the CWC they are displaying a photo of the pair of them and having a moment to remember them.
2-0 madrid... 3 mins of extra time to go
2-1,3-1 and then pelanty to dortmund
Gubbings a plenty
2-1,3-1 and then pelanty to dortmund
Gubbings a plenty
yes, both games were fun to watch, and both went a bit crazy in the last few minutes. Maybe late goals/cards in the semis as well?
The last round began to pique my interest. I think PSG will win.
Fluminense vs Chelsea RB
Chelsea a little short at 1.69 imho
Chelsea a little short at 1.69 imho
if that co-comm says "into good areas" "puts it into an area" one more time.. grr. wherever the ball goes it will be in "an area" stop spouting this meaningless drivel. 
DAZN
go to dazn.com and log in then search out the free channel
go to dazn.com and log in then search out the free channel
that upgrade banner is a bit of a pain, and the stream is miles behind, but at least it's free.
Good use of var for pelanty, and yes good goal.
Probably watching ladies tomorrow as I may back the Engerlund.
great strike, I was just about to call him a greedy cont for not passing it. 
Trevor Chalobah completed all 54 of his pass attempts vs Fluminense, the second-most with 100% accuracy by any player in a match at this year's FIFA Club World Cup after Jonathan Tah for Bayern Munich vs Boca Juniors (67/67).
Opta
Chelsea looked good at cwc, but draw
rather opened up for them. Got
to take advantage all the same.
Opta
Chelsea looked good at cwc, but draw
rather opened up for them. Got
to take advantage all the same.
PSG v Real Madrid
The Head 2 Head that Had 2 Happen
Should be a cracker
The Head 2 Head that Had 2 Happen
Should be a cracker
I think odds against for PSG is more than fair, the only chance you've got against them IMO is something like Botafogo managed, an excellent defensive performance where they were continually forced to go around the outside and were unable to penetrate through a congested central area nullifying the tika taka stuff.
Madrid are going to try and take them on in a shoot-out, lots of spaces everywhere a bit like trying to have a tear up with a peak tyson IMO.
Madrid are going to try and take them on in a shoot-out, lots of spaces everywhere a bit like trying to have a tear up with a peak tyson IMO.
Mbappé starting according to reports
He will always give you a chance
He will always give you a chance
FFS Buffer. 
have you not made enough money from that slogan?
have you not made enough money from that slogan?
I thought that Bayern were the better team for large stretches of the quarter, although my money was on PSG. I wouldn't rule out an upset here.
This has potential to be the greatest game ever
Gifting PSG 2 goals not on the bingo card
pity, was hoping Madrid would score first. hope we still get a great game.
but how will they cope when they've got Jackson and Nkunku to deal with? 
Every PSG player is standing in or running into space.
Wasn't a head injury but increasingly refs stop
game for injury to big player...
game for injury to big player...
When PSG lose the ball it is amazing how many times a tracking back player regains the ball.
I suppose if your League campaign has been an undemanding stroll, it leaves you fresher for games like this.
Had Madrid scored first half this could still
have been a great game, but psg
have defended well when required
Then Madrid switched to attacking
as individuals whereas PSG continued
to play as a team,... That 4th
goal that was offside was slick.
have been a great game, but psg
have defended well when required
Then Madrid switched to attacking
as individuals whereas PSG continued
to play as a team,... That 4th
goal that was offside was slick.
Madrid have applied themselves well 2nd half, wouldn't grudge them a consolation.
I that what we're doing now, ending a game early when the game is out of reach
PSG were the only team last season who were better than Liverpooll , should have no problem beating chelsea
Looks good value, ones a world beating team, other improving this will too much for them
PSG was 11/4 antepost, and 1.68 to win within 90 mins. I think Chelsea would do well with a 2-goal margin.
PSG were the only team last season who were better than Liverpooll 
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