Everton v Man Utd

Eve subs : Virginia, Begovic, Keane, Young, Alcaraz, Iroegbunam, Sherif, Dixon, Heath.

Utd Subs: Graczyk, Harrison, Heaven, Lindelof, Yoro, Eriksen, Kone, Garnacho, Obi.

madness putting Garnacho on the best in a relegation fight

struggled a bit in the last few games he's played but I'd play him ahead of Zirkzee..

bench no best, think Arsenal should go in for him in the summer, hard character to like but he's off the required standard.

yep, he's got plenty of improvement in him (only 20 still) and from a good base, doesn't get weighed down by pressure @ Utd for the most part... (does have d***head potential as you allude to)

Score draw for me

not betting on it but 2-0 Everton @ 14.5 would get a pound if I was neutral..

Me either, waiting for the 3pm's, but a draw looks a good shout here

i wondered if the new stadium thing might work against everton, i'd have favoured them normally but going with utd 1-2

SAF in the house with his now traditional facial expression suggesting someone has let rip just in front of him...

casemiro is an obvious issue, can see more injuries looming for this first 11 if they are playing like this every week, he's got to use some younger players

This not a UTD starting XI

I can't see Utd winning this

Casemiro gone at the game but at least playing alongside Ugarte gives him a chance to not be as exposed..

last week was ridiculous leaving him often isolated..

1=0

Messiah Moyes

VAR having a peek

usual set piece chaos in Utd penalty area but barely create anything at the other end from such things..

Goal stands

That VAR took way too long for something that clearly fine

Beto should change his name to Eto

Utd need some in defence who dominates at set pieces

Keeper is an issue but really with Maguire and De Ligt, Casemiro and even Zirkzee it shouldn't be as big a problem as it remains..

How many headers...

https://x.com/footballontnt/status/1893284466673545391?s=19

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According to the radio, that VAR took 3 mins and 10 seconds... Ridiculous!

De Ligt playing everyone onside. Dorgu has been impressive

2-0

2-0

There was a lot to look at, but, pre var it's a goal and carry on, var sometimes
appears as if it wants to get involved when there really is no need.

The Portuguese messiah going to get Utd relegated...

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We want 5(five)

Elite from Maguire there

Lazy millionaires

Ten Haag reputation has gotten better since his sacking

The Utd players who know they’re goners end of season have downed tools

The Utd players who know they’re goners end of season have downed tools

how do you tell ?

Hard to believe that Everton looked a relegation side 5 weeks ago.

The united manager looks a dud. Players don't know what system they are playing. People will say he needs time.  His record & stats since he come in are a disgrace.  The club is a mess

Feb 22, 2025 -- 1:04PM, brentford wrote:

The Portuguese messiah going to get Utd relegated...

It's a good job that the bottom 4 as a group are probably the worse in EPL recent history.  Otherwise United would be in a relegation battle

To be fair to Amorim, he's wearing another manager's clothes and is being judged in them, imagine being a manager and not wanting about 85% of the players you're working with, then he has the probably Emery had at Arsenal, found it hard to get rid of players he didn't want on top whack, like Ozil.

it's definitely in danger of being so bad he doesn't get an encore..

I think he should get a proper go next season with pre season..but subject to the bottom 3 or 4 results they may not have a choice..

included in that though is that a payoff might breach PSR..and lead to points reduction..

I said it before and I'll say it again, Amorim was never the right guy to appoint, a year ago no fooker had heard of him, then he has a flurry in Portugal and we hear that City are looking at him and United are suckered in.

He has no pedigree or experience at managing a top club at the top level, is completely unproven and this is what you get, gimmicky soundbytes that he thinks he can appease the fans with and not much else.

2-0 HT

No manager is going to fix the problems at United. Sell Garnacho and Mainoo to generate funds to buy players he wants. Wilcox, Berrada are the ones with the biggest jobs. 3-5 year plan needed.

Brentford. Cos they’re all going

apart from Zidane (totally unrealistic) you never did say much about who you did want from memory..(remind me if I'm wrong)..

I was of the view that he was a virtual carbon copy of ETH in CV terms..so wasn't that excited by the prospect..

thought they missed an obvious in Poch during the summer...Tuchel a possible but probably too prickly for the structure in place..

both were off the market by the time they did pull ETH which felt premature given the summer backing..

most Utd fans (inc on here) assumed part of the reason for RNV and Hake was to give them a plan B if ETH was moved on but when you appoint big money football dept roles and CEO's they have to justify their pay especially early on..

  Loui

trust me that's about the level generally..

Casa and Harry spine of the team

United are just not organised in defence.

By the look of Amorim sat in the dugout before the restart he is gone.

will this be the proverbial "2-0 after half an hour, gotta be more goals", then stays 2-0 until added on time or full time?

2-1

no, not staying 2-0 then

nice hit, Bruno

Decent freebie

2-2

bootiful finish Ugarte...

Great strike, Rio looking stupid again

even Alex smiling...though might just be wind...

Maguire going down and appealing for a foul every time someone touches him is embarrassing

every other c*** does it, especially against him so fair enough for me...

Poor from Everton in the 2nd half

Moyes will be livid, giving up a 2 goal lead against this lot.

Pen everton

thought utd played ok 2nd half

bit of a dive..

If shirt pulling is a penalty they'd be 50 pens a match

decision overturned

surprised it got referred but would have been ultra soft..

VAR officials were desperate to find a reason not to give the Everton goal and determined they weren't giving them a pen

not the fact it wasn't a pen then?

He made the most of it. Surprised it wasn’t given though after the ref initially gave it.

Everton 2-2 Man Utd FT

When he was at old trafford Ashley Young was spoken to about his diving

were quite decent second half...

i thought so brentford, they did at least fight for that

I mean, the whole game was refereed allowing some physical contact, a Utd player had his shirt pulled in the box earlier - no pen and rightly so. Young knows he's not getting to the rebound and just throws himself to the floor.

Incredible that VAR got involved at all.

we're actually due a few these days Lats'

I didn't realise that was how it worked, mate

Madely would have been gutted to get the call to the screen judging by his Cup performance..

the jota one the other day was fcking scandalous he wasn't even booked from memory

I agree, Elise, but there was very clearly contact from two players on Young here, so where is the clear and obvious mistake about it?  Even Rio says it was a pen!

yep, I didn't have it as an overturn...just very very soft..

Feb 22, 2025 -- 12:13PM, mecca wrote:

Score draw for me

sure lat it wasn't in the same league, i just thought live it wasn't a pen but yes agree actually it could have been given in some games, whereas the jota one was a blatant cheat getting caught

Not seen the Jota 1 from last week but don't think they can give a yellow after referral though

show madley the footage that proves  him right
or
show him footage he might be wrong
its man utd  do you need to ask

When ref is called to screen he has all options open.

judging by his Arse' display he'd have been desperate to still give it..but would have looked very suss with the current approval ratio of screen overturns...

Ashley Young is a serial diver, the Tom Daley of Merseyside

He is. Two men had hold of him though in the box. United were very fortunate to get it overturned.

Like cannabis Shirt tugging has been decriminalised and is only an offence if the Copper or Ref doesn't like you

ALL OPTION ARE OPEN AT THE SCREEN

by the time VAR showed the only angle/pics that counted reff had made his mind up and turned his back on the screen
if VAR had only show the angle.pic that's counted madley would 100% have stayed with his onfield decision,that's why VAR showed him everything but the pics that counted

1tp

Im not commenting on what happened, but on the suggestion he can't give a yellow.

He can, as review opens every option.


In reality ref being called to monitor means var consider he has made an error.


Sadly we don't hear the conversation.