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Hello , a friend of my son as managed to deposit £1500 with a top bookmaker ,and increase it to £10,000 betting on corners market, including games in the euros,when trying to withdraw the money ,was accused of match fixing and had is original deposit of £1500 returned but wont return his winnings ,is this allowed.
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Contact IBAS
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thanks ,passed on advice.
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Hello, this seems very strange
Did the bookie actually accuse him of match fixing? As if a punter could fix the number of corners in a Euro match... Even if he could, the sums you're talking of would not make it happen More info required |
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If the bookie repeats that claim to ibas a good libel
lawyer would be best option. |
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As yhtl says
A top bookie you say, any chance of naming them? |
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BTW, lof2010, I'm not suggesting that it didn't happen, far from it
Would just like some more info, can't stand welching bookies |
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OP needs to elaborate
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'including games in the euros' If all the bets were on the Euro games then i'm sure the bookie doesn't have a chance.
If the majority of the gains were made on obscure matches and only a small amount of 'cover play' on the Euros, then it's something different? good luck with it anyway |
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Betweigh or Quinbet?
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Sounds like one of them to me
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I've said this before but a friend of mine took L@dbrokes to the small claims court (he'd backed Hamilton in several shops to win SPOTY at 16/1 and they wanted to give him 6/1 or something similar) and they never showed up. There are things he can do. Post details on TrustPilot, email Sportsbook Review, write to odds comparison sites and the newspapers, use IBAS or Resolver. My friend went straight to the small claims court.
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actually he went to IBAS first, then the Small Claims Court. IBAS were useless despite the evidence being totally in my friends favour. He is fastidious in documenting evidence. I try to remember to do the same. Nearly always photograph and screenshot evidence where I think there is the potential for a bookie to welch.
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The problem with IBAS is that you don't know what the other side is saying, so they can tell a pack of lies and you can't counter that.
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Review sites and comparison sites are full of negative feedback
as are most social media sites, and it doesn't seem to bother bookies. Well done your mate taking it beyond ibas. I do think ibas is a good first step, as sometimes a court will have expected you to have gone through attempted negotiated settlement first. |
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Way back in 2002, a company called Betworld were avoiding paying me and BetBrain intervened and I got paid out. They went bust a few months later. Trustpilot have also come to my aid as the bookie responded when they were ignoring emails.
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Would like to know the matches 'your friend' bet on in corners
A 'top bookie' wouldn't do make that accusation willy nilly, a fly by night bookie would, so I imagine they were bets on corners, in matches always with the same ref, in a low level league, and he probably never bet on anything else. |
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Could be mes but I doubt it. What I suspect is much more likely that the bookie thinks the young lad is betting on someone else's behalf. They've got no proof and have made up the match fixing allegation in the hope that if they are right the matter won't be pursued.
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Only just realised the OP threw in a game in the Euro's, maybe he bet on a high level game to throw the bookies off the scent.
Corner betting is difficult, there's no real rhyme or reason to it and results have always seemed more random than other markets like goals or cards where stats are more prevelant and useful, to increase your ROI by that much on a market like that seems suspicious in itself, I would guess he was betting on the fewest amount of corners he could, i.e unders, and the dodgy officials kept given a goal kick instead. |
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Would like to know the matches 'your friend' bet on in corners ,nothing dodgy , some where at the euros ,so no illegal activity.
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his system ,was along the lines of backing corners after the 70th minute .
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this is a young lad ,from a mining village in south yorkshire ,whos had a bit of luck NO conspiracy.
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You really need to name the bookie. If it's a bookie that you can take to a UK small claims court, that is the way to go, after pursuing other avenues first.
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its one of the big six.
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1,500 > 10,000 betting on corners after 70 minutes, would LOVE to know this amazing system that yields that kind of quick profit.
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who are the big 6 iyo?
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laddies bet365 WH coral skybet paddy power.
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I love the idea that they've accused him of fixing
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lof I've sent you a private message
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Fred Done seething that you haven't put him in the big 6
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Should be ecstatic with money back, that Chinese couple got to star in their own slasher movie for this.
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My guess is it probably is allowed.
I am surprised you even got back the 1,500. They can keep your deposit, keep your winnings, freeze your account claiming suspicious activity. The only thing that will work in your favour is giving them sustained maximum adverse publicity on this forum, and on every other forum. You should give full details, bookmaker name, amounts, dates, not protect them by witholding their name. Damage their reputation and they do less business and earn less profits. |
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I'd guess that the bookie has been lax in updating minor markets in running and he's been betting stale prices. He should ask the company to provide all the info it holds on him under data protection law, then consider legal action after that. If the prices were wildly out of line, they might validly be palpable errors.
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Almost certainly bet365, probably a get-rich quick scheme along the lines of the next winning point in tennis.
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Why so reluctant to name the firm?
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The whole palpable error rule needs an airing in court. st4n j4mes used to post ool prices on top ten golf markets week after week, if you took one and lost, thank you for playing, if it won, palpable error invoked.
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You are not entering into a contract when you place a bet, so if they offer 5/1 instead of 5/2 they can legally cancel the bet.
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they probably suspect spot fixing rather than match fixing but would have to be very low league stuff for that sum of money to impact a player. it's more likely something along the lines of the next corner, someone with fast pics or at the game, if these were in play bets. if they were placed pre kick off, then it's much less likely you could cheat but if it's obscure leagues where you maybe have some sort of edge, they still won't like it.
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DIE LINKE • July 10, 2024 11:08 AM BST
You are not entering into a contract when you place a bet, so if they offer 5/1 instead of 5/2 they can legally cancel the bet. You have a contract if the bet is accepted, but the contract is subject to their terms, which allow them to void a palpable error. The point at issue, is a palp should be a rare occurance not a common and easy way to manage poor odds setting. |
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very strange, not sure I know of any bookmaker that would take any type of large bet on anything let alone a corners market, I would have thought they would restrict you within 1 bet.
,especially if you win. |