UEFA Europa League 11 Apr , 20:00 Leverkusen v West Ham

Well get your money down then and stop crowing about it.

It's a very tough tie for West ham, made harder as bayern seem to
have given up in league.

This tie could be vital for spurs or villa getting champs league spot
as it's awfully tight between England and Germany for
second extra spot.

Good luck West ham.

I don’t watch German football
So I ain’t got clue how good they are
Where missing some key players
Thursday if it aint tough enough
Moyes will have his plan
Don’t think it will differ
To anythink befor , going be low block
Keeping it tight , wave after wave German attack

If get out with 2 or less it be master class
Biggest problem we have
Is pac man and emson on yellow cards
If lose pac man for home leg than I save it’s over befor we get home
Bowen reported out 2-3 weeks too

I thought that Leverkusen mightn't have given a crap about this cup but they've already got the Bundesliga in the bag so they might go all out and go for the Europey too.  They'll potentially annihilate West Am if they're in the mood.

sofa getting excited again.

I don't dislike West Am. I wouldn't mind seeing them win a trophy.

Would like to see Wham win but Leverkusen look too strong, Moyes really would have to take it to them, but he'll probably have them sit back and be attacked, Wham have too many good players to play this style of football.

You and your trophies as if that was the be all and end all. Only one thing that matters and that is winning the top tier.

Bowen out is really bad news, but good news is so is Phillips (aside of paying him £100g a week to be on the treatment table but hey ho, he's better there)

If Bowen can be fit for the return game then that will be more important.

Went off with hip injury Saturday,bbc
Other sites now saying it’s a knee injury
**** nose what to believe

End up playing tonight now lol

From BBC Sport today....

Jarrod Bowen will miss the first leg of West Ham's Europa League quarter-final against Bayer Leverkusen on Thursday because of a knee injury.

The forward, who has scored 19 goals this season, sustained the injury against Wolves on Saturday and might also miss the return leg on 18 April.

"Jarrod isn't with us. He's twisted his knee and there's some sort of damage," said Hammers boss David Moyes.

"We can't give any dates of when he might be back, unfortunately."

Bowen came off after 54 minutes during the win at Wolves and has been a key player for West Ham this season.

"He's an England international and we know how important he is to our team, so he'll be a miss for sure. But we have good players who can come in, so we'll stay positive," added Moyes.

West Ham midfielder Edson Alvarez is suspended, while midfielder Kalvin Phillips and goalkeeper Alphonse Areola will also be absent through injury for the game against Bundesliga leaders Leverkusen.

"I see it as a great opportunity," said Moyes. "We've had a good run in Europe and played a lot of good teams, and we play another one.

"Hopefully, we can rise to the challenge and perform well. Both teams have 11 players, so it's an even game at the start.

"We know Leverkusen are a very good team, but we believe in our abilities."

Leverkusen have a 16-point lead in the Bundesliga with six games to go, and are unbeaten in all 41 matches this season in all competitions.

"It could be the toughest challenge yet. They haven't lost for a long time, and we know how well they have played this season," said West Ham defender Kurt Zouma.

"But we are still confident. We know the qualities we have and we showed that against Freiburg in the last round.

"We always play to win. We know we might be missing some key players, but we have a good squad and we'll all give 100%."

Leverkusen manager Xabi Alonso was linked with replacing Jurgen Klopp as Liverpool boss but recently confirmed he would be staying at the German club.

"We know what West Ham can do. They have experience in Europe - last season they were champions of the Conference League," said Alonso.

"We want to go further and starting tomorrow and then next week in London, we have to play to our own game. We are ready."

Hope these have an off day.

Going to be extremely difficult and a one goal deficit today would be a good result.

Home side have got most of their b side starting tonite
Obviously wanting to win the title Sunday

Sixteen points clear they've already won it more or less.

Telling my mates it be far easier turn TNT
Look in 9.30 tonight
lol for my mental health
Few cans Stella do the job
Out tomorrow for racing pub in Camden Town

Good luck Hammers! If you're going all the way, you need to beat teams like this.

West Ham in Spurs' colours... how sweet

Come on you 'ammers. Let's do this.

Getchin

The pac man out next week game
Be lucky not get red tonight

Moyes has tortured more people in football stadia than Pinochet.

Hammers giving the Farmers league champions the full
MONTY
HT NO SCORE

Davy Crockett be proud of this stand so far

Emson out of next week game

Scamacca scored 2 for Atalanta at anfield

Funny old world, innit.

Pool losing 2-0 at home. Klapp will be apoplectic.

1-0

Bus parked to no avail.

0-3 Atalanta. Pool OUT.

1-0 is a decent result. West Am can go on and win this thing now that Liverpool are out.

Good night Westham your out

Or 2-0. That's a hammer blow for sure.

Good night, Vienna

Not over yet though. Maybe Leverkusen won't be too motivated next week after they win the title at the weekend. A fired up West Ham can still qualify.

Win 3-0 with out Bowen pac man or emson
Live in real world got no chance
This mob grounded us down
Law of averages going to score sooner rather than later

Agree. No Paqueta. No Emerson. Possibly no Bowen. Don't see us having a whole lot more possession next week. And need to win by 3 over 120 mins. Anyone want my ticket?

Had 1 shot in anger all game.2nd goal a body blow.

33 shots we had 1
lol

Two world class saves from fab too tonight
They looks edgy at the back when we did up the other end

Yeh,had an excellent game Fabianski.

Fabianski a blinder and Alvarez back for the return.

Won’t be long now pen
Moyes be gone soon
Where have to start over again as pac man few other gonna go
But can’t set up like that tonight
Didn’t even lay grove on them
That ain’t new
Wolvers first half was same low block

It’s over sparrow ffs
Dino gone of injured tonight
Next Thursday might be last European game for while

Well I'm sure you will be happy when Moyes goes Fattie but I have enjoyed being in the top half of the league for a change and Europe for three seasons.

Thing is sparrow I don’t think he cope
With modern game way it’s going
FFP killed ambition
Got use You Academy players youth
He’s track record poor on that front
Can’t defend, can’t play a season with 13 players either
He’s done great job he’s hit his Ceiling  now it’s time to go
You saw future way to play football with good players not world class one
In Alonzo tonight

That Atlanta scorer is good
Should have stayed at the Ammers

Scamacca was crap at West Ham and never wanted to be in this country.

he was barely given a chance by Moyes, he only started 11 games, subbed off in 8 and only played three 90 minute matches in the prem all season, it seemed Moyes didn't want him from the start and had him forced onto him, he just kept picking Antonio

Quality player,Scammacca.

So it was Moyes fault he didn't like this country then and maybe he blamed him for the weather as well.

scandanavian_haven 12 Apr 24 18:48 
he was barely given a chance by Moyes, he only started 11 games, subbed off in 8 and only played three 90 minute matches in the prem all season, it seemed Moyes didn't want him from the start and had him forced onto him, he just kept picking Antonio




Did you watch all those 11 games because I did?

yeah, lacked match sharpness due to limited time, and the confidence that goes with it, whilst having to climatise to a new league and country, with the manager seemingly not showing much faith in him all the while

I never realised you were a West Ham fan and watched them every week. How long have you been supporting our team?

what part is incorrect though, he didn't get the minutes to show what he could do, you don't need to support any team to know that, did not get a fair crack of the whip did he. Before he came to England he was at Sassuolo, started 25 games and scored 16 goals, 6th highest in Serie A.

That is your opinion based on what you think you know rather than what you actually saw. He was not happy in this country and was never committed to our club unfortunately.

I saw him play and haven't said he was good for West Ham at all, I've said the reasons why he wasn't good.

And I also told you why he wasn't and I saw all and every game. If you are a fan like me of West Ham then please say so and then I will be happy to discuss all.

He said he was homesick.

Its happened to a few down the years, and will
happen again.

Good for West ham (and him) to get out quickly.

Well I love West Ham but unfortunately they have been almost unwatchable for at least 10 years now. Moyes is a good honest person but he's nowhere good enough in this age. He's had players like Haller and Anderson who are class players but he likes the boring jack of all trades master of none types. All this rubbish about how wonderful he's been really doesn't stack up. We finished last season in 14th, 1 point ahead of Bournemouth for goodness sake. Yes we all joked about winning a European trophy but it was against teams that finished at best 3rd or 4th in leagues that most Pl teams would beat if they put out their best eleven. Should have stuck with Pelligrini.

Should have stuck with Pelligrini.





You having a laugh spent £180 million and we had to be rescued from relegation by Moyes.  Never heard such nonsense after a 6th and 7th place finish and three seasons in Europe.

Suggest you check the facts Sparrow. Forget the Bournemouth game as Moyes was only appointed the day before and it was Pelligrinis side Moyes actually got less points per game. With Pelligrini (who actually has been success with all his clubs) we used to have more than 30% possession.

Yes it was great with Pellegrini as we slid towards relegation, unfortunately you don't get points for possession and that was why we had to get back Moyes to save us again. I really can't believe some of our fans who seem to have no idea of the total lack of success this club has had over the years and I've been a fan since the mid 50s. All those great players in the 60s decade and the highest finish was eighth.

I already acknowledged he was not good for West Ham, so I don't know why you keep asking about the team I support

Smacca was fantastic player
Didn’t suit way we play simple as that
He’s proper striker and Moyes doesn’t want proper striker was
Battering ram like antiono

Antiono sum up smacca perfectly in his pod cast last season

scandanavian_haven13 Apr 24 03:06Joined: 27 May 11 | Topic/replies: 16,746 | Blogger: scandanavian_haven's blog
I already acknowledged he was not good for West Ham, so I don't know why you keep asking about the team I support







I ask because you seem to know all about Scamacca but won't say how many games you have seen him play. I have watched the player in every game and so assumed you too was a West Ham supporter. Are you ashamed to tell me which team you support in case I might have an opinion on the club?

what are you even talking about? just a weird post, who said I know everything about the player, all I've said is that he barely played any fully matches the whole season, just 3 prem games in total, stands to reason you can't build up momentum, confidence and understanding with teammates not to mention getting up to speed the pace of the league, no doubt homesick as stated but many players are homesick to begin with. My first post was he was barely given a chance by Moyes and you keep asking me 'what team do you support'

agree with the other two west ham fans that say he is a good player, but didn't get that chance in the Premier League.

You want to busy yourself with other people's clubs but when asked about your club you get upset and refuse to answer. You are the weird one.

Did you watch all those 11 games because I did?





You still refuse to answer that question from yesterday.

You want to busy yourself with other people's clubs but when asked about your club you get upset and refuse to answer. You are the weird one.


it's just got weirder

busy myself welcome to the forum sparrow, where you pass opinion on what you want. Very odd and defensive fellow.

Sparrow has never passed opinion on another football club in his life apparently

Don't welcome me as I was here long before you. And you're the odd and weird one scandanavian heaven and don't bother answering either.

In the 60s and 70s we did win the FA Cup on three occasions. Also won the European Cup winners Cup (stronger competition than the 3rd tier Conference Cup) and were runners up in it. Above all we played entertaining football and attracted a huge amount of fans who aren't local to the team, I know as i am one and know of many others. I actually know a guy who has moved to where I am, from West Ham territory, and he goes to every game home and away and he says the football is "dire".

That European Cup winners competition was no better than the Conference win and in the 60s we known as a soft touch by other clubs. Never once did we get anywhere near challenging for that league title because of our hopeless defending and if you have read Bobby Moore's book you will find out why. The manager we have now who is despised by a certain section of our fans has achieved higher finishes than any of our 1960s efforts and yet that team had three World Cup winners involved!

*we were known.

I simply said Samacca didn't get enough game time, and you'be launched yourself into a weird rant, demanding to know what team I support, and telling me you've seen every second of him for Wham, like that has anything to do with the price of bread, if he was barely played, to build confidence, momentum, form etc, then it stands to reason he's not going to look good when he does. No idea why you're being so argumentative about it.

just admit you support the lionesses and we can get back to the theme of the original thread which is xabi alonso has Leverkusen playing their best football for some time and is so happy there he has turned down a managerial return to liverpool....getting beat by them is no shame but frustrating the goals came late so it will be a massive challenge to overturn the probable outcome but not impossible.....the good thing for fatty is they are at home and have to be more attacking as they require goals but if they can match the 2-0 it will be a coin toss in extra time......

Thing is The personnel that’s available to play we ain’t got no one
Forget 2-0  Bowen injured pac man Suspend Emerson suspended
Dino came off injured

We ain’t got a team field let alone go attack score goals against a very well run team

"That European Cup winners competition was no better than the Conference win" Here's a list of the sort of winners: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Cup_Winners%27_Cup

That year we won it was 1965 and no other year.

The teams we played that year were La Gantoise, Sparta Prague, Lausanne, Real Zaragoza and TSV Munich 1860.

Probably led to England winning world cup.

Of course the 1964 FA cup helped too...

You remember it well, yhtl?

I have no recollection of 64 cup.

I remember tokyo Olympics just...

I remember watching 65 cwc final, or maybe
highlites of it on the day,...

Remember 66 world cup

My point was that winning that European competition in 1965 was no great achievement and we have to remember that the squad with all those great players we had never finished higher than 8th place in the 60s.  We simply couldn't defend because the manager Greenwood wouldn't listen to his captain. As I always say read Bobby Moore's book as its all in there.

I think it was a fantastic achievement but fully get your point as you
are talking about your club, and see things
day to day over 50 and more years that we miss.

Newcastle could never defend either!

Rafa taught them, and Howe defends via his high press
which can turn into a parked bus at times.

Not quite there yet!

The old Cup Winner's Cup was certainly stronger than the Conference thing.

The top 6 teams from the strongest leagues are excluded from the conference, as well as the top 3 or 4 from most other leagues.

The CWC would typically have the 2nd or 3rd best team from all leagues, and at that time being 2nd best in Czechoslovakia or Switzerland did not mean you were a no hoper (because there was more parity between leagues)

The year we won it we beat Munich 1860 who won the Bundesliga the following year. It was a prestigious tournament competed by winners and all the sides in it played their strongest teams from the start whereas the conference cup is a mickey mouse losers tournament where most of the better teams don't even bother to put out their strongest teams until later stages. Some of those teams would struggle in the Championship. It's just another tournament created to extract money from the fans. They'll have one for teams that finish halfway in their league next.

chelsea be interested

Well bindaree, what do you say about this same team who never finished higher than 8th place in the 60s yet Moyes has achieved 6th and 7th placings. How do you compare the two because as far as I'm concerned league placings are the true barometer?

Moyes has got 2(at least) of the best players in the world
which of course Greenwood had too.

Maybe Greenwood would be suited to this squad
and Moyes to the 60s team, certainly he would
build around Moore!

Maybe...

Some truth in that yhtl as you can't be successful if you can't defend. Time and again we scored some great goals in the 60s and gave away stupid ones but eventually you learn the lesson. It took me to 1968 to realise this after a game at home to Stoke where we led 3-0 at half time and lost 4-3 and it finally dawned on me!..
Here is that game...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaJlSUWOpPg