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not only did the VAR guy not have a clue it was given offside but also didn't have the balls to delay the game when he had the chance. Must have been doing the crossword when the game was going on.

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By:
maleuk01.
When: 03 Oct 23 19:04
complete farce,one guy seemed to know it was all wrong, VAR guy du#idntt
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 03 Oct 23 19:30
I dunno what their trying to achieve with it

Its a mess from every possible angle
By:
11kv
When: 03 Oct 23 19:46
Responsibility.

Speak up stop the frigging game and award the goal.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 03 Oct 23 19:52
It's completely stupefying that they didn't make the instant decision to reverse the call. Headless chickens spring to mind.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 03 Oct 23 19:55
Guy doing the var seems as if he's buzzing

Is he excited having sent off Jones?
By:
leazes67
When: 03 Oct 23 20:01
All talking over each other,total sh1t show.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 03 Oct 23 20:01
They all sound like lads down the bar ffs

These lot are supposedly running a multi billion pound game now you couldnt make it up

Im only shocked I didnt hear “bruv” during the audio
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 03 Oct 23 20:04
“Bruv he ruled it out onfield innit”

“Whats that bruv?

“He ruled it out onfield but it was onside bruv”

“You sure bruv”

“Yes bruv”

“Oh fe ck bruv”

That was the real gist of it
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 03 Oct 23 20:09
the replay operator was the only calm one who actually knew what was going on, and rightly assumed the var guys knew it'd been flagged offside as it's their jobs to know. Something was amiss that day, too many decisions went Tottenham's way, including the still image projected on to the screen with Jones's red card, when does that ever happen, whenever I see a ref going over to the monitor it's always a video in motion in a loop and then changed to a different angle.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 03 Oct 23 20:14
Im absolutely confident their betting as they control the game from the var box
By:
11kv
When: 03 Oct 23 20:57
Got to be,no different to photo betting on the nags  ExcitedShockedDevil
By:
1st time poster
When: 03 Oct 23 21:04
in reality to show how far  VAR has corrupted the game,the root of the problemn here was the LINO doing his job and making a decision and getting everyone confused,as every other LINO would have just kept his flag down and pass the buck to VAR
doesnt explain why for the 1st time a LINO put his flag up and was a YARD out on a bred  n butter, right in front of him decision
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 03 Oct 23 21:07
P45 or P60
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 03 Oct 23 21:10
The lino wants sacking 1tp

Hes behind the play ffs and still flags it despite at best being 20% sure

Pathetic all round, unfit officials are no good
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 03 Oct 23 21:12
We need to hear audios from all the other matches.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 03 Oct 23 21:14
Thatd be fun liberator

Can you imagine the shyte theyve been getting away with
By:
Racingqueen
When: 03 Oct 23 21:18
Did the ref not state to VAR what decision he had given?

This seems to be the core of the issue. Has the actual match ref been dropped?
By:
11kv
When: 03 Oct 23 21:21
He was 4th official last night at Fulham
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 03 Oct 23 21:22
Its all a sh!tshow racingqueen

At best they come across incompetent
By:
lurka
When: 03 Oct 23 22:05
Whether the ref told them or not they are supposed to watch the match. Once Liverpool didn't celebrate the goal the decision given was obvious.
By:
tobermory
When: 03 Oct 23 22:09
Clearly they had looked away from the live feed as soon as the ball hit the net.
By:
Racingqueen
When: 03 Oct 23 22:19
The ref deserves dropping as well. He needs to communicate the decision he has made. Its his decision and the onus is on him to communicate it.
By:
lurka
When: 03 Oct 23 22:29
The VAR should have said 'check complete, onside' or just 'onside' instead of 'check complete'. Wouldn't have happened then. That'll prob be their solution to it.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 03 Oct 23 22:48
It comes to something when they cant even communicate a  simple decision like that
By:
crystalhunt
When: 03 Oct 23 22:51
I wonder if any of them have betfair accounts. Quick text to their mates before they give their decision. It's like having tomorrow's racing results.Sad
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 03 Oct 23 23:03
Yes the communication between var and onfield team
was shocking.

Now we need to find out if that was normal or if
this bunch were just lazy and blazé.

If that was normal behaviour it's no wonder var
has been so shite, hopefully it improves.






We also find out semi automated offside works
in world cup, and champs league, because addidas ball has a chip, but
EPL don't want semi automated offside because
our nike ball hasn't got a chip in it.

Working on a chip less solution...
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 03 Oct 23 23:05
EPL ball contract switches in 2025 to Puma.

This is currently expected to be chip less.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 03 Oct 23 23:08
Puma supply serie A, they have semi
automated offside, without chips.
By:
duffy
When: 04 Oct 23 06:12
Apparently once the game restarts they are not allowed to stop it again, but you've got Michael Oliver screaming at them from the PGMOL hub to delay, I can't believe they froze, I'd be telling the ref to stop the game whether I was allowed to or not, as long as the correct decision was reached I wouldn't care the repurcussions.
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 04 Oct 23 07:02
Sack them all start again.
By:
Latalomne
When: 04 Oct 23 07:34

Oct 4, 2023 -- 6:12AM, duffy wrote:


Apparently once the game restarts they are not allowed to stop it again, but you've got Michael Oliver screaming at them from the PGMOL hub to delay, I can't believe they froze, I'd be telling the ref to stop the game whether I was allowed to or not, as long as the correct decision was reached I wouldn't care the repurcussions.


It wasn't Michael Oliver, Duffy.  It was Oli Kohout - the VAR Hub operations manager.

By:
nineteen points
When: 04 Oct 23 07:35
the more involved the more chance of a cokk up
By:
nineteen points
When: 04 Oct 23 07:38
interesting thogh that its a liverpoo cokk up that gets the headlines.the bubbly baby gets the milk
By:
Latalomne
When: 04 Oct 23 07:40
Come on, 19, this is the biggest ****-up they've had! You can't miscommunicate the awarding of a perfectly good goal and expect nothing to be said, whoever the affected party.

This isn't about who it happened to, this is about how bad it is!
By:
nineteen points
When: 04 Oct 23 07:45
been plenty howlers as bad as that but yes your right its made worse by the audio.the others didnt get afforded that luxury though
By:
allyp
When: 04 Oct 23 08:13
Good to see most fans of other teams seem that this is a shambles and are not criticising or throwing out the lazy "victim" stuff.

It sounded like the only guy in the room who realised the mistake was a kid on a work experience weekend, who repeatedly tried to get the attention of England and his cronies in relation to the miscommunication.

In regards to Liverpool's failed appeal on Jones - if what was said by PP was right - it will be interesting to view future games - will the on field ref be shown stills of incidents as he gets to the screen or will he watch the incident real time. I think that's important. Showing the still the way they did is like a barrister in a court room presenting the evidence to influence the jury.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 04 Oct 23 10:31
The kid has a degree in sports technology

Exactly the kind of guy that should be managing
the VAR room. But refs are control freaks, why else
become a ref?

Somebody needs to wrestle control to folk that
understand is to fix errors not a toy, and not
to help out mates.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 04 Oct 23 10:32
Somebody needs to wrestle control to folk that
understand VAR is to fix errors not a toy, and not
to help out mates.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 04 Oct 23 10:40
It's 8 mins between sending off and goal
incorrectly disallowed.

VAR operators seemed high as kites for disallowed goal.

Still thinking about sending off, adrenaline?

Or is that their normal way of operating var..
.. surely they can't act like that for 100 minutes.

Liverpool should have requested audio of whole
game, get a better feel of what was going on.
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