TUCHEL SACKED

they might be worth backing at Fulham now

LOL @ Auba going there for Tuchel. An hour of football and he's gone.

The new owner seems more hands on than Roman, which isn't a good thing, especially when he will have less of a clue about football than Roman did. He sent Fofana to New York for a 10 hour medical with the Lakers doctor.

One glance at the bank account and all is well….

Potter Next in the door, which means Brighton will fall through the trap door

Whats mad is when you read Chelsea fans online, they love him.

Its like Bielsa at Leeds......on their way to relegation and they name a road after him LOL

Yep, most of my friends are Chelsea fans and they think it's a disgrace. Thing is, they've been complaining for ages now

Tuchel looked fed up in his interview last night.

Seems a decent coach, maybe management is not
his forte?

Potter Next in the door, which means Brighton will fall through the trap door


Wrong. Brighton are rock solid with or without Potter.

I'd be worried being a Chelsea fan. You would have to question him bringing in Aubamyang and 1 game later sacking tuchel.

It hardly screams of a clued in owner

What happened to Chelsea since they more or less played Spurs off the pitch?

What happened to Chelsea since they more or less played Spurs off the pitch?

They always are 'up' for those games.

Stealing a living the rest of the time

Poch spotted on Kings Road...

Chelsea have a team of poseurs epitomised by Mason Mount - No goals and no assists so far this season. Players play when they feel like it - like against Spurs when they were really good and pathetic biased refereeing decisions costs them a victory. Modern managers have a very difficult job trying to get the best out of multi millionaire players. Whoever comes in should insist on a long contract!!

This Todd Boehly is about to learn a painful lesson about young millionaires.

Potter may be favourite, but would he want to go there. He has spent years building his team and set up, and it is now coming to fruition, with a team of players and staff who are performing well and want to play and work for him. Apart from selling his soul, why would he want to go to Chelsea?

1/4 billion spent in transfer window and less than one week after it closes they're on the hunt for another manager , who will without doubt insist on spending a similar sum over the next two transfer windows with those summer additions leaving for less than half of what they came in for .
Its the kind of business model that begs the question as to how exactly Mr Boehly accrued his fortune in the first place

Why would he want to manage Chelsea over Brighton ?

Possibly the same reason he opted for Brighton over Ostersund

*(via Swansea)

The Premier League is becoming a joke these days with clubs panicking as soon as they hit a bad patch and just encouraging fans to do the same.

Sep 7, 2022 -- 12:42PM, howard wrote:

Why would he want to manage Chelsea over Brighton ?

i can think of 10-15 million reasons

I'm laughing at the question btw. It's called promotion.

Poch to Brighton

Refreshing that the new owners look to Potter, because for all Potter's plaudits you'd think that he'd still not be fancied by one of the big hitters who usually go for one of the "A" listers.

Potter could be eyeing the England job

Conte to chelsea Poch to Tottenham

A manager with an upward trajectory wouldn't be looking twice at a national managers job....certainly not when compared to a big 6 opportunity.

Signing Aubamayang now looks an awful decision. 33 year old with "Previous"

I know they needed a striker but new manager is now lumped with this guy.

Tuchel has all the likability of a fiendish Gestapo captain... imo.

Back to reality for Chelsea, could be looking at Potter to ensure Premier league survival... (Cheating Russian years are over)

I believe Tuchel is a good manager and he'd need to be given time. However, his recent purchase is sh1t though; paying over the odds and some are too old and on the downgrade eg Aubameyang) and Sterling.

I'm sure he'll be employed as a football manager here or abroad very soon.

What was the length of his contract?

His opening contract was 18month..which was extended by 2years after CL win(taking him to 2024)

Personally, eye can't stand the little arrogant bastard.

Thanks sniper, plenty of compensation then.

I read that the terms of the compensation package are usually written into the contract.

I hear they've asked to speak to Potter. Done/doing very good job @Brighton.. be very interesting to see what he could do in more hi-profile posi(with insane wealth backing him..)

Who would want the Cheski job ? as soon as you have a bit of a bad run, your'e Sacked

Sep 7, 2022 -- 2:49PM, duffy wrote:

A manager with an upward trajectory wouldn't be looking twice at a national managers job....certainly not when compared to a big 6 opportunity.

This is exactly why they say Zidane won't be interested

Potter matched as low as 1.2 just now and at 1.27/8. Below 1.3 usually indicates something concrete. Above 1.3 is usually just based on the strength of media speculation.

Chelsea could try and poach Klopp but I do not think he'd be interested either. A £10m signing-on fee plus a 3yr contract may not be sufficient carrot to entice him to Chelsea, I think.

Was Tucal the problem at Chelsea?

I knew a guy who worked at their Cobham training ground and he reckoned from the youth team upwards their players were a bunch of entitled c**ts

tbf it's pretty much a no lose deal @ Chelsea. You get offered silly money for trying to bring success to club..and if it doesn't work out and they continue with their sacking trend, you dance away with your riches. No matter how bad your "failings" are/were, your rep would hardly suffer a dent.. as most would simply say: "ahh, there's the Chelsea asylum at work again..hiring and firing with wind changing frequency"..

Ha ha

Potter 1.3 now.


I guess that's a holding position.



Poch been a bit of a drify!

Chelsea has probably been the best paid manager's job in the world over the last 15 years if you include payoffs. A reported £110m in payoffs during Roman's era. Conte and Mourinho and their teams got about £25m each and Jose prob got another lump the first time he got fired. AVB got 12m after less than a year. RdM got 10m after 8 months, all on top of the salary they were paid while employed. It has been a goldmine for managers but payoffs are usually smart and worth every penny, less ambitious clubs don't realise this.

Mourinho has got upwards of £50m in payoffs during his career. He knows that's where the real money is in management.

When a manager is sacked he can either take a one off payoff or can continue to be paid as per his contract until he can no longer fulfill that contract. i.e. takes another job.

José much prefers to work rather than sit around waiting for pay cheques.

Fella on the radio,don't know his name,seemed to think he was going
to get the tin tack even if Chelsea won last night.

You are making that up. The club will come to a settlement with the manager in order to not have to pay the full amount remaining on the contract. The manager benefits by being able to take up another job sooner. It is a quid pro quo and both get certainty too.

It will normally involve some gardening leave but not for the full length remaining. If the manager wants to take up another job during the gardening leave period he would have to negotiate with the club a second time so they generally see it out. Sarri took a job with Juve and Chelsea avoided compo. I don't think any of the above figures are disputed, they may even be from Chelsea's accounts.

You are making that up. The club will come to a settlement with the manager in order to not have to pay the full amount remaining on the contract. The manager benefits by being able to take up another job sooner. It is a quid pro quo and both get certainty too.

That would be the one off payment I mentioned.


So what happens if no one off payment can be agreed?

Does Zidane speak English?

I don't think they have any chance of enticing him to London.

He can bide his time and probably do another stint at Real when it turns sour for Carlo.

Absolutely amazing to listen to Chelsea fans defend Tuchel. They have spent a boat load and they are as far away from Man City as Man Utd are if not further.

Its like a cult.

The summer signings have been awful. Koulibaly looks truly awful (Runs like he's 54). Sterling will crack in a few goals but doesn't have the hunger of a younger player . Fofana has a major injury and they pay 70+m for him. They then sign PEA to put the cherry on top of that steaming turd of a transfer window.

Cucurella is getting flack from some in the media but he could end up being cover for what a terrible purchase Koulibaly was.

Absolutely amazing to listen to Chelsea fans defend Tuchel

you'd almost think he'd won a Champions League and World Club Championship for them...

Sep 7, 2022 -- 4:59PM, SirNorbertClarke wrote:

You are making that up. The club will come to a settlement with the manager in order to not have to pay the full amount remaining on the contract. The manager benefits by being able to take up another job sooner. It is a quid pro quo and both get certainty too.That would be the one off payment I mentioned.So what happens if no one off payment can be agreed?

In the absence of a clause which deals with compo, which are more and more common nowadays, a manager could technically sit there for years and collect salary until the end of his contract. But then he'd have to hang around unemployed for the duration and that might affect his future career prospects and earnings, and the club could ask him to perform tasks as he'd still be on the payroll and employed and would need to be available if called on.

In taking a lump, say half the value of the remaining contract, the club saves money overall and the manager gets a lump without having to work for it and the freedom to work again, usually after a short period of restriction, and could actually end up earning more overall if he gets a job elsewhere once unrestricted. It's a win-win for both so that's why it nearly always happens and both are happy to compromise.

When Mourinho signed for Spurs there was paper-talk that he had a reduced compo clause that Levy had insisted upon. It looks as if he would have got a lot more in compo if he'd won a trophy because he'd lost the dressing room and Levy decided o fire him a week before the final rather than see him win it. Just speculation but makes sense.

Potter sub 1.1 to be next manager to leave but only 1.2-1.25 to be next Chelsea manager. Are Bournemouth going to make him a better offer?

I would back what Lurka is saying ref manager contracts - Chelsea will have to fork out for at least half of Tuchel's contract. If they don't Tuchel will sue for the full value. It must expensive nowadays to sack a manager - say they are on £5m a year at the very big clubsand they will be paid 2 years salary to leave that is £10m. The Club still has to pay for a new manager over that period and may have to pay £5m in compensation to a club the new manager has left.

Telegraph quoting the payoff as 6.9 million, Sun going with 13m...

Plus 10m compo to Brighton for Potter

Mostly though it's the amount squandered on all those summer signings. Plus what they will have to spend to "back" the new manager

In the absence of a clause which deals with compo, which are more and more common nowadays, a manager could technically sit there for years and collect salary until the end of his contract. But then he'd have to hang around unemployed for the duration and that might affect his future career prospects and earnings, and the club could ask him to perform tasks as he'd still be on the payroll and employed and would need to be available if called on.

In taking a lump, say half the value of the remaining contract, the club saves money overall and the manager gets a lump without having to work for it and the freedom to work again, usually after a short period of restriction, and could actually end up earning more overall if he gets a job elsewhere once unrestricted. It's a win-win for both so that's why it nearly always happens and both are happy to compromise.




So exactly as I said.

Sounds as though he was mainly sacked as a result of not being on the same page as the owners rather than results according to most credible articles..

he didn't like the owners being as hands on and even questioning things like his tactical approach, they felt he wasn't buying into the project they wanted to develop and added to that, declining relationships with some players..

rather as with Conte he's a very good coach but extremely intense with it and as a result his shelf life can be rather limited as relationships fracture with players and owners alike..

No, not exactly as you said. There are usually clauses nowadays dealing with early termination. Exactly as you said in the absence of such clauses but that's not the norm any more and it ignores the practicalities - a lump without having to work for it and avoiding going stale as an unemployed but tied-down manager is very attractive and valuable to every manager who wants to work elsewhere. If a manager sat it out then other clubs would be wary of employing him afterwards too.

Early days but this owner seems to intermeddle in footballing affairs a lot more than Roman ever did. Maybe he just wants to learn about how everything works and will eventually take more of a back seat but it's not a good sign.

Likely compo is limited to 2 years or so of contract.

A four year contract is likely conditional
of reaching certain time milestones without being
sacked. So 2 +1 +1... With the +1s not being paid
but the 2 rolling to end of year 2 for compo.

Then both parties can crack on without long
costly legal actions...

See keegan v nufc...



Of course some managers may negotiate better terms!

( klopp, pep..? )