Hungry vs Ingerland channel 4 5.00

5 mins in what a load of of sheite.

That was close for Hungary

K Block ffs

how the fck is the man utd donkey on the pitch?

27 mins and Im struggling to watch this...

Southgate one lucky boy to be England manager ... absolutely massive underperformers with the talent at his disposal

TAA having a blinder

walking sideways football at its finest

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz my goodness why bother

Well, that half was sh*t

England have never fielded a whiter team. Is this to prevent crowd abuse ?

oh no the crowd thats not really there booed and poo pooed the knee ffs that is the most exciting thing that happened for 45 mins...


C4 Get a gripp ff


Harry not even wearing the Peace armband gone for the nice colourful one god give me strength

Well , when I say never, I mean recently.

I never thought I'd say this but we need Grealish on !

C4 Upset the crowd poo pood the knee dance ffs

Noticed Kane has the colourful armband on and not the Peace one might phone up and complain

They've complained about the booing following the knee. Why do it in Hungary when it is clear what the reaction would be?

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as the players want to kneel they can the crowd can boo if they like its ok not be like minded...

hope they score eng need a right kicking after this

On dear

I cant watch England their boring beyond belief

Southgate is a tedious style of play come on

serves them right, been shoite

1-0 pen
good chave challenge

Got to say they deserved that; we have been poor tonight.

the only saving grace for england is that a couple of the hungarians have worse haircuts than grealish

Layed the Hungary 1.7

Let's remember, Grealish is on the pitch

yup, floats like a butterfly, stings like cotton wool

Safe to say England aint winning the world cup

they look like a team that needs a holiday

im just wondering if pickford is morphing into adolf hitler?

the ref

bought the game into disrepute

I forgot this was on. Just as I turned it on Hungary should have scored again!

the ref is a disgrace

should be sacked
he has took a backhander

that old fella nearly sh1t himself and then realised it was maguire in front of him and he stepped round him like he was a pub team centre back

Count yourself lucky Slippy its been dire..

this game is bent

22 unbeaten

If Kane squares the ball it's 1-1, unfortunately Kane doesn't have a frootball brain

england are knackered
but that does not excuse the ref
disgraceful performance
hes took a bribe .....guarenteed

someone ought to check that it's not scotland in disguise

pen all day he underhit the back pass and panicked

never in a million

the ref has been anti england all through this half

he was looking for it and no v a r

England do look very average every time I see them play under Southgate. Not sure how this team got to a final and semi-final in recent times

time will tell

theres too much one way

this is a bent ref

he will call it early ...guarenteed

You need to stop smoking that chit irish

that ref was bent .....end of

Kids enjoyed ,thats a positive anyway...

irish - VAR didn't over turn it either

that was a bent game..... you wait and see

Maybe it was bent, but not for me. Fair penalty and deserved win with all things considered.

It may have been a soft penalty, but Hungary had plenty of ball around the penalty area.  England bought it upon themselves by ultra negative tactics

totally deserved, no fluke, germany will be laughing their heads off

Oh dear

A couple of good games against Germany and Ukraine at the Euros.  Aside from that England have been poor for a couple of years now.

Owen useless pundit

def penalty pulled him back

nothing else to talk about apart from the knee booing

A couple of good games against Germany and Ukraine at the Euros.  Aside from that England have been poor for a couple of years now.

turns out everyone is rubbish...

apparently Germany were rubbish, Italy now, Spain during the Euros , Brazil, Argentina....

not quite sure who some have down as the class apart currently...which might be the reality...maybe levelling up does exist in football...    or down of course...

Any mention of the next home game England play

closed doors and why NO fecking hypocrites

None fussed if it was bent England play such a dull brand of football

Southgate simply isn't up to the job

southgate " heat was a factor " 

what ya think it be in Qatar then

TAA is a woeful defender. Any decent output attacking wise is offset and more by his abysmal defending

Will probably give Southgate the loser another 3 year extended contract. When will they get rid of this loser.

England do look very average every time I see them play under Southgate. Not sure how this team got to a final and semi-final in recent times


He's a very good man manager but is horrific tactics wise. England need 3 central midfielders to retain the ball better but he is infatuated with playing 2 with 2 wingbacks. This is grand when the opposition do not retain the ball well but you are in trouble against the better teams who will average 60%+ possession and the 2 wingbacks get pressed back into defensive positions. this leaves the midfield isolated. (Eg Croatia, Italy etc..)

the boys done well  - more cash for my bank  - thank you again - all we had to do was lob the ball over the knee ben ders

They fluked their way to a final

Germany were awful and we wontnsee that again for a while
Ukraine... never see such a pathetic last 8 side
Denmark were decent but were in our backyard and ran out of steam

Southgate has benefitted from decent draws as well though

Eventually his luck will run out in that regard esp if they slip down the rankings ti say 11th-16th

Belgium of course battered by the Netherlands (average)  as well the other night...just adding to earlier post..

England aren't anything special and I've argued in the past that Southgate has had draws and some home advantage others would have dreamed of..

good man manager as has been said on here ..but it is very important in the international game to create the right environment so players want to play for you. ...tactically very average... conservative in approach which is frustrating but increasingly may need to be with defensive options available..and crucially still need that central mf that can run a game for some fairly obvious attacking talent...
still don't have one though in time though Bellingham is a huge prospect

With England reaching the Euro's final they are now stuck with Southgate.  A decent manager would get more from this squad of players

having had the Eriksson clique, the Capello boot camp and the vanilla Hodgson with far better talent I'm not so sure Kris' but I guess we won't find out...

I didnt watch the game nor saw the booing before the game, until I saw it on the news.

I hope Southgate doesnt include all the England fans when he says 'its why we do it' (meaning the act of taking the knee)

He needs to wind it in if he or anyone thinks they can stop the booing of an act of compliance forced on other people.

Does Declan Rice always pass sideways and backwards ? West Ham value him at 120 million PMSL

He'll go for more than that. £100 million for Grealish , now that is PMSL

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Does Declan Rice always pass sideways and backwards ? West Ham value him at 120 million






Have you ever seen him play before?...... clearly not if you think he just passes sideways and backwards.

Erikson had a very good squad but by the time of Capello we had a poor England squad that was well passed it's best, and literally nobody of top quality was coming through.  Over a 5-10 year period after the likes of Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Scholes, Ferdinand, Terry, Cole, even Barry and Carrick who did we have coming through?  Rooney was at his best aged 18-22, Joe Hart, James Milner (who actually turned out to be best of the lot outside Rooney) Oxlade Chamberlain, Wilshere (like Rooney was best as a teenager), Sturridge, Welbeck and Phil Jones!  Hodgson inherited a generation where no one had come through, and only Sterling was coming through. Southgate has a far better squad.

actually Kane was also coming through towards the end of Hodgson's reign, but he had no top quality players at their peak

Capello in 2010 still had Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard, Ashley Cole, John Terry, Carrick (whom he often chose not to use)  playing at somewhere close to their peak - would accept a lack of obvious younger talent.

Hodgson had Stirling, Kane, Hart, Rooney...Rose and Walker playing at their best around around 2016 at the Euros ...people can easily laugh at mentions of Hart and Rose but both were exceptional for their clubs around that time...likewise players like Sturridge, Glen Johnson had some very high levels around that time of their career..  Lallana, Wiltshire, Oxalade Chamberlain all very highly touted players...Barkley...  the fact that many never lived up to billing doesn't mean they weren't very talented prospects...

how many of the current crop will be viewed in the rear view mirror as great players  ... Kane (constantly criticied at the Euros , Stirling (always criticised regardless) , hopefully Foden (barely played at the Euros) Stones ?  Maguire ?  Shaw ?  Pickford ?  Henderson ? Rice ? Grealish ? Phillips ? Trippier ? Connor Coady ?

Rooney was well past his best by 2016. Hart's stats are truly awful and he was vastly overated.  Two years running in the worst 10 keepers in the top European Leagues.  The worst regular England keeper in my memory.  Rose was just ok.  Kyle Walker is/was a top player.  Kane and Sterling are top players but they were not at their peak.  Sterling was shot to bits mentally in 2016.  Kane wasn't at the 2014 WC.  He'd only just arrived on the scene

Who are you picking out as the outstanding group from this gen then ?

Kane, Stirling, Walker, Stones, Foden and Grealish ?

two of whom the manager didn't even fancy at last years Euros incidentally.

The current squad I assume as close to full strength as currently possible.

Goalkeepers: Jordan Pickford (Everton), Nick Pope (Burnley), Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal)

Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Conor Coady (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Marc Guéhi (Crystal Palace), Reece James (Chelsea), James Justin (Leicester City) Harry Maguire (Manchester United), John Stones (Manchester City), Fikayo Tomori (AC Milan), Kieran Trippier (Newcastle United), Kyle Walker (Manchester City), Ben White (Arsenal)

Midfielders: Jude Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund), Conor Gallagher (Crystal Palace, loan from Chelsea), Mason Mount (Chelsea), Kalvin Phillips (Leeds United), Declan Rice (West Ham United), James Ward-Prowse (Southampton)

Forwards: Tammy Abraham (AS Roma), Jarrod Bowen (West Ham United), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Jack Grealish (Manchester City), Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Raheem Sterling (Manchester City)

We did have some highly touted players, but history has shown us they weren't nearly as good as they were built up to be.  Kane and Sterling have proved they are top players, Henderson and Walker too imo

The new generation do look better and there are far more of them.

We won't know how good they'll end up being but I think we can agree that is no comparison between Erikson's squads and Hodgson's.  Capello is somewhere in between, but he only had 2 players under 24 in his WC squad.  Lennon and Hart.  Which kind of shows what Hodgson inherited.

that's probably the worst midfield England have had in my lifetime...not that I don't think some our decent players and others have high bar potential but that's no different to what was being said about the previous groups

some earlier omissions from Hodgson's highly touted group....Rashford, Dele Alli and Eric Dier.

No disrespect to Englandbut if they let that decision go without protestthen itsgoung to get worse

Southgate is a "safe pair of hands" ,ticks all the boxes and is bloody useless........failed to win the Euros with the best squad and who can forget Trippier playing left side wingback or even playing at all.

To his credit, Southgate almost achieved what we've been crying out for. New blood, rather than keep going back to the same old losers. It's a shame that's as far is goes with him and under his management I don't see us winning anything, but totally respect his effort. Need the same mentality with a bit more guile.