**** ENGLAND V ITALY - EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL 2021 ****

Deptford

Appletown Blue had more chance of winning over the 385 at Catford!

Jul 11, 2021 -- 11:23PM, LOU MACARIS TARTAN B wrote:

wolfDon't cry son there's school tomorrow and you'll start wan kin soon.

Following England is like winning the lottery and then realising your have forgotten to out your numbers on

How is going for a 2nd goal a "gamble" ?
That just shows Southgate's psychology right there

All players should be made to watch 2 hours of recordings of Alan Shearer taking penalties . No

****footing around with stutter steps and side footing. Hit the ball with pace at a target 3/4 feet

from junction of post and crossbar. Even if the goalie guesses right he aint stopping it.

As for Southgate's selection of penalty takers it beggars belief. Two players who had barely kicked

a ball and a 19 year old with no experience of such an enormous responsibility.

Having said that, Italy were no better with their penalty taking.

I'm 74 years old and I could do better!

Southgate can resign, but who takes over?

Need somebody better tactically,
But with same respect from all the players.

Probably needs to stay, and
learn to be a bit bolder.

We defended and lost, give the
attacking a go!

Southgate fcked it.  1-0 and clearly in charge as Italy struggled and he should have gone for the jugular in the second half.  I've said it all month and I say it again - the guy is an idiot.  He's betrayed English football!

Southgate fcked it.  1-0 and clearly in charge as Italy struggled and he should have gone for the jugular in the second half.  I've said it all month and I say it again - the guy is an idiot.  He's betrayed English football!

starkey

If I won the lottery I'd but the England team.  And if I could get FOUR numbers I'd buy Nth Macedonia too.

Wolf I remember you said Italy on his Poll like me.

Southgate is too nice a guy to be a winner. He doesn't have that steely nature when it matters.

All that fake roaring to the crowd 'look at me I'm a tiger' was just embarrassing.

Lou is a classless numpty who's been embarrassing himself silly on here for weeks now

wolf!



SSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH

Aftertiming too!  PMSL

What a night.  "Thank you God"

There is no aftertiming, you cant even recall who voted what on your cringeworthy poll where the whole forum ripped the p1ss out of you

wolf

You'll be reported now.  Goodbye!

AWFUL POLL

It's ironic, after what happened in '96, that the more experienced players bottled it again. Surprised Southgate let that happen. Although maybe it was all part of his redemption song playbook.

scottish guy who tweeted he would get a tattoo of england flag on his forskin if england won

Stop squabbling boys. Take it to PM.

Jul 11, 2021 -- 11:23PM, LOU MACARIS TARTAN B wrote:

wolfDon't cry son there's school tomorrow and you'll start wan kin soon.

what a loon

well if Manure have a pen to win the league in the last min of the last match they've got one overpaid striker who can miss on demand and have just paid a small fortune for another one who can't take them

Jul 11, 2021 -- 11:26PM, Blockfire wrote:

Wolf I remember you said Italy on his Poll like me.

I did mate

That's it lads let the tears flow, let all the pain out

A truly pathetic approach to the match and the penalty shoot out by the manager ; there must have been millions of fans aghast at the delay in bringing on Grealish and also the decision to bring on Saint Marcus and the other bloke with no opportunity to get involved before taking their penalties. As for Saka he’s got the brain of an amoeba and should not have been given the opportunity. Saint Gareth has let the country down yet again.

Chielini on itv now...
Wish we had somebody of his experience and stature

Live from Italy ….

Allo, I'm-a Giuseppe
I got-a something special-a for you
Ready?
Uno, due, tre, quattro
When I was a boy
Just abouth the eighth-a grade
Mama used to say, "Don't stay out-a late
With the bad-a boys
Always shoot-a pool
Giuseppe going to flunk-a school!"
Boy, it make-a me sick
All the thing I gotta do
I can't-a get-a no kicks
Always got to follow rules
Boy, it make-a me sick
Just to make the lousy bucks
Got to feel-a like a fool
And-a mama used to say all-a time
What's-a matter you? Hey! Gotta no respect
What-a you t'ink you do? Why you look-a so sad?
It's-a not so bad
It's-a nice-a place
Ah Shaddap-a you face!
That's-a my mama, I can remember!
Big accordion solo!
Ah! Play that again! Really nice
Really nice!
Soon-a come-a day
Gonna be a big-a star
Then I make-a TV shows…

boris

That was a heartbreaking result to end #Euro2020 but Gareth Southgate and his
@England
squad played like heroes. They have done the nation proud and deserve great credit

same as the Denmark game in leaving subs later than 90% of coaches would have -  let alone a squad with more of the talent on the bench,

as throughout the tourny it's such a results based job that you often struggle to get any objectivity but felt to me is just reluctant to make the bold moves to go and win the game or at least change the momentum (that had completely swayed to Italy) so can have few complaints at the result.

Crouch is on live at midnight bbc1 god that will be a laugh

Kane now desperately trying not to criticise southgate

I hope Gigi was there, he deserves to see his beloved win

That grealish don't half look tasty on the ball tho, if only he'd be on earlier who knows

Wolf3011 proving himself to be a massive bellend.

another scot seether, cant accept his side being knocked out before the knockout stage once again

Rio is a f cking honky

Rio is crackers

Southgate is a snowflake

Generic snooker/ football presenter on ITV wouldn't know a football if she fell over it.

Southgate had the game won.....but he lost it

Bottled it. Bottled it. Bottled it.

That is all. Apart from Bottled it.

Jul 11, 2021 -- 11:28PM, Des Pond wrote:

It's ironic, after what happened in '96, that the more experienced players bottled it again. Surprised Southgate let that happen. Although maybe it was all part of his redemption song playbook.

Gareth just said HE chose the penalty takers, based on training

Why don't the so called experts criticise Southgate

Insane choice of penalty takers. What on earth was Southgate thinking. Up there with the biggest management blunders of all time.

I don't believe that, tbh, but hey ho.

Thought maguire and kane wanted it more

Hindsight a wonderful thing

Tony i put it up on the greyhound forum three days ago

Maguire showed  how it should be done, what did the other pen takers do in training to convince Southgate?

that was a great pen. smashed the camera too

Kane and maguire both scored.....

Jul 11, 2021 -- 11:48PM, Des Pond wrote:

Maguire showed

Typical Italian tournament win, draw the game, miss two penalties and still go home with the trophy

irishone
irishone11 Jul 21 22:42
Southgate had the game won.....but he lost it

Spot on.  Posted the same here before half time.  He never got them out of second gear.  Terrible management with the attacking assets he had to hand.  I think I saw done a runner tip one ball over the bar.

I'd back meself to score at least
3 out of 5.

Pickford done his job

Lots wanted him dropped.

grealish should have started. he can keep the ball. gotta go up and score another goal. not rocket science.

one thing for sure, this pen stalling, hop, skip, jump is RUBBISH.

Shaw might take a good pen?

He's had a cracking tournament
looks to have fully recovered
from that awful injury now.

Pickford was excellent today and should have been the shootout hero

Jul 11, 2021 -- 11:34PM, xmoneyx wrote:

borisThat was a heartbreaking result to end #Euro2020 but Gareth Southgate and his @Englandsquad played like heroes. They have done the nation proud and deserve great credit

They can seriously shove that s*it up their ar*e ffs

They've spent weeks building everyone's hopes up, harnessing their energy, getting them euphoric, getting them "believing", getting them out in massive numbers like that to boot

To fail yet again and then trot that s*it out

They lost there's nothing to be proud of

And now we've got a few weeks until the country is on lockdown again because of the "spreading variant" brought on by "football fandom"

God bless the England media

The players should just hit it hard and low, every time a player stutters it increases the risk of missing the pens- you'd think they would be coached how to increase the chances of scoring from what is a basic goal scoring opportunity

rashford should always start before kane, and southgate should have brought kane off 3 or 4 times this tournament, but kane is bigger than the team fact

Got to feel sorry for Pickford, he did what he needed to do.

Southgate had the game won? Bollócks. He has never had a Plan B. If anything they scored far too early

yeah pickford did well

Stones has gone a whole tournament
without a stupid mistake, thats
a low target, but he's a decent
player when he cuts out the errors.

Maguire played well too, bar
a dreadful passback at 0-0

good night for you Sonts' - must have been sweating the shoot out ...better team won though, no question.

tonight put England back 20 years

On the plus side - only one year until the World Cup and we have a great chance

I backed Italy pre tournament so fairly neutral tonight but don't get the anti English posts on here at all- seems like even the English wanted Italy to win

Brentford

Cheers, I won't rub it in with any more posts because that's not a nice way to lose for anyone

I feel relieved not smug

Understandable. No one likes cheats and divers. Justice was done.

Southgate would even lose at shadowboxing

England don't have a good defence. They have midfielders protecting a dodgy defence. Maguire and Stones did well tho. maguire esp, but they didn't have to defend much.

Arsenal had the 2nd best goals conceded in the PL last season. You would never say they had a good defence tho. England play similar with better players.

But they rarely had to do anything y-h-t-l.  England barely stretched anyone so there were very, very few flash counter attacks.  Young Phillips, sweeping in front of them, made their lives so very easy.  Having Kane coming back to gather as well?  Criminal really.

Well done SS, bet you are relieved after the last few weeks lol

Mount doesn't look ready, but
he's had some good experience.

Same for saka for me, southgate
sees something, he's quick, for sure.

Sterling had a good tournament
but somewhat wasted in final
until Italy equalised.

Foden, sancho, grealish, bellingham
all underused. Maybe not ready.

Rashford, dunno, where does he fit in?

good on ya SS, I know you're a decent football guy behind the mask

Henderson

Our best passer, and exactly
what we needed... Maybe wasnt
fit enough?

Jul 11, 2021 -- 11:57PM, elisjohn wrote:

rashford should always start before kane, and southgate should have brought kane off 3 or 4 times this tournament, but kane is bigger than the team fact

Are you kidding me?  Rashers is totally out of his depth at this leve.

level.

Southgate has 18 months to learn tactically, integrate Bellingham and grealish and build a fluid attack.

He is learning on the job. He has learned since the World Cup. He can play like this most but not all of the time. He might be better off going now because he'll likely not get a 3rd soft draw in a row but he won't.

He needs to be tactically versatile with a plan b and c

Walker did well, but think
he should be kept to centre back
for England.

Anyway, well done winners, been a great tournament for boosting the bank again. Few more weeks and it'll be premiership again

Rice and phillips

Both did OK, but don't win enough
tackles for me. I'd be happier
with either rather than both.

Southgate doesn't have it.  He proved it once again tonight.  He's a great waffler and the FA love that.  I think you're stuck with him for a while.

Well done mega

I've enjoyed the tournament

And the company on the match threads.

Pity about the dancing ladies tonite

But they are having a good time anyway

Cant have too much of the twirlin birds

The boys of 66 remain untouched , Moore , Charlton , Banks , like heroes from Greek mythology

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-57798771

Great scenes

"There's people on the pitch, they think it's all Over" .......................... IT IS NOW

Suck it up England fans.

Three significant defeats now in penalty shoot outs.
But in 1990 and 1996 we were trying to win the game right to the end against good teams.
Italy were organised , Chiesa was class ....but...
the negative tactics for the best part of 2 hours with some much attacking flair was all Southgate's miserable failure.

And I have never seen a player looking more frightened in a penalty shoot out that Sako.
No doubt all the managers UEFA coaching accreditations led to this truly hapless decision.

Anyway, back to the serious stuff in a few weeks. Pre-season friendlies start.

Maguire played well too, bar
a dreadful passback at 0-0

That dreadful backpass led to the goal.

The ref didn't but buy Raheem Sterling's dives.
Good game, very exciting.

Well done Italy backers and well done Italy.

congratulations italy, imo the best team in the tournament yet they were second best against spain and despite being better than england only beat us on penalties.