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swiftynifty
25 Apr 21 17:04
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- sadly the England captain is now the biggest DIVER in English football. It's terrible to see.
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Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B April 25, 2021 5:20 PM BST
Let's be fair he's certainly scored some goals but every time I watch him he barely gets a mention, does almost nothing.  He gets more involved at the back!

As swifty points out too a blatant diver but to be fair all teams (yes including my team Man Utd) do it but how people rate him at like 150m is beyond me.

Remember the last World Cup or Euros not sure which he was awful.  As a United fan I'd much, much prefer Son now he is a good player.
Report 11kv April 25, 2021 5:45 PM BST
He's a leg dangler ,him and Vardy have patented the move.....
Report swiftynifty April 25, 2021 6:03 PM BST
Every game without fail I see his gormless face flying through the air after little or no contact.
Report haywarj April 25, 2021 6:08 PM BST
They all do it and they are killing the game.The f a  have got to stop it  NOW
Report layingisthewayforward April 25, 2021 6:11 PM BST
I'm a villa fan but i think kane has been imcredible this year. Look at his goals and assists for this season.
Report TOP3MAN April 25, 2021 6:52 PM BST
Kane needs a rest and quickly.. He is burnt out, no movement and that isnt just because of his ankle. Been like that for few weeks now
Report scandanavian_haven April 25, 2021 6:59 PM BST
can't believe he's still never won a trophy, he's nearly 30, this is what happens if you stay stay at a club like Tottenham too long
Report Angoose April 25, 2021 7:06 PM BST
He'll be off oop north in the summer, Destination Trophyland Excited
Report 11kv April 25, 2021 7:27 PM BST
What would Burnley want with Harry they have Chris    Excited
Report Angoose April 25, 2021 7:33 PM BST
Further north than that, just ask Steven Gerrard Grin
Report swiftynifty April 25, 2021 7:38 PM BST
Guaranteed trophy or two, albeit tin-pot.
Report Angoose April 25, 2021 7:43 PM BST
Perhaps an arrangement could be arrived at where Kane is loaned out to clubs playing in cup-finals all over Europe to help him pick up a winners medal or two Excited
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY April 25, 2021 7:47 PM BST
Truth is, you want a trophy guranteed then there is only City, Chelsea, Real, Barca, juventus, PSG or Bayern to go to. Your chance of getting a winners medal in one of 5 top lges is 100% guranteed
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY April 25, 2021 7:48 PM BST
They all win trophy year in year out. Maybe not Chelsea, but if they don't one year, they buy one the following
Report 1st time poster April 25, 2021 7:50 PM BST
utd,chavski, l,pool **** themselves if kane goes to city thats another early title wrap up for city next season
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY April 25, 2021 7:59 PM BST
Don't think Pep wants Kane. Not his type of striker, doesn't move enough
Report the fink sisters April 25, 2021 8:08 PM BST
I’m an Arsenal fan and for me Kane is a terrific player. Great striker, but his all round play much underestimated and has improved over the past couple of seasons. Brave too, and has probably played in a good few games this season when others would have cried off.

Yes, he dives, but don’t think he’d be top of the list of worst offenders, even at his own club.
Report 1st time poster April 25, 2021 8:18 PM BST
been cynical pep can get kane comes off scores 30 great,doesnt come off squad player and more importantly he aint at utd or any EPL cliub,job done
who will utd,pool etc get then
Report 1st time poster April 25, 2021 8:20 PM BST
kane is more of a team play,twin striker,assists than halland who,s an out and out old fashioned goal scrounging bully
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY April 25, 2021 8:22 PM BST
Don't see either as a Pep type
Report Angoose April 26, 2021 10:13 AM BST
Phil Foden has never needed to officially announce his arrival as a Manchester City player - his quality from his emergence as a teenager and his importance to this club's future has never been in doubt.

If there was one game, however, where this brilliant young talent worked his way into a wider consciousness it was when he ran the 2020 Carabao Cup final for City in their 2-1 win against Aston Villa last March, just before the country went into lockdown and the game went on hold.

It was on this same occasion a little more than a year later, as the country gradually emerges out of the pandemic, that the 20-year-old used another major final to emphasise once more what a gem City and England have on their hands.

Remarkably, given he is only 20 years old, this was his seventh major club trophy - a fourth League Cup adding to the two Premier League titles and one FA Cup success he can list on an already glittering CV.
Report 1st time poster April 26, 2021 10:25 AM BST
missed 2 open goals in 1st half that ian wright,shearer, etc wouldnt have slept for a year if they,d missed in a cup final,in todays game those misses are used as evidence of how brilliant you are,funny auld game
Report 1st time poster April 26, 2021 10:28 AM BST
he,s playing in a side with no strikers and 6 mplayers in midfield with 2 fullbacks bombing forward,with not a slither of responsibility, if you cant perform in those circumstances as a midfield player ,its time to pack it up
granted he did perform but its all set up for him
lets see him in a team playing with 2 forwards  and playing with one other in central midfield,which i presume his is favoured position
Report Aspro April 26, 2021 10:39 AM BST
I take it by those posts that you don't rate Foden 1tp?
Report ericster April 26, 2021 10:43 AM BST
Got to feel sorry for Kane really. To think what might have been...... if............Sad
Report 1st time poster April 26, 2021 12:57 PM BST
i do rate him, but its all set up for him at city can he make an impact in euro,s world cup in big games,england struggle to create 2 chances from open play in a tournament never mind been able to laugh 2 off in 10 mins
Report Aspro April 26, 2021 3:50 PM BST
He has improved a lot over the past 12 months. It's more than you usually see in one so young so I'm hopeful he can make an impact, but England are the international equivalent of Spurs... seems some of us supporters were born to suffer.
Report scandanavian_haven April 26, 2021 5:06 PM BST
in the right place at the right time, much like the Neville brothers. Likes of Gerrard had to carry dross through many seasons
Report ericster April 26, 2021 5:39 PM BST
Seems that way Aspro.
Report Aspro April 28, 2021 4:48 PM BST
Didn't realise we had a sportsbook market on Kane, so have taken a nibble at Man City at 10/3... he sure isn't staying at Spurs
Report thelatarps April 28, 2021 7:45 PM BST
Think the sun newspaper reported that paddys have offered harry k to leave spurs as a shade of odds on. ten to eleven..
Hmm
You are looking at 3 teams.
City, Utd, Chels.

Dont think the fit at either Manc club is good. Tho obvious destination for me is the kings Road.
Might even be a deal to be done with big Tammy going the other way.
Its going to be another covid blighted transfer window so I dont see anyone matching the full asking price.

Wouldnt be the greatest surprise if he stays for another season of mediocrity at spurs.
Report Angoose April 28, 2021 7:52 PM BST
Straight swap for Gareth Bale Silly
Report Capt__F April 28, 2021 10:59 PM BST
Harry decent but not got the pace for top 4
Report thelatarps April 28, 2021 11:14 PM BST
Hes not blessed with the gift of self awareness is he old Harry?

His performance in the carabao was dreadful..
If he cant see  that he is part of the problem at spurs then, there isnt a lot of hope..
The worry is that the same thing happens with england in the summer..

The big games, I tink southgate has a decision to make..
Personally I would have Rashford as no9 for his pace on the counter attack.
Report Aspro April 29, 2021 9:40 AM BST
If Kane was deliberating PSG or City then last night might have made his mind up. He wants trophies and he wants almost a guarantee of them. The only sticking point is Levy now and possibly/probably his wife. I can't see Chelsea (at all), but Utd is still a fair shout.
Report ericster April 29, 2021 10:05 AM BST
He might not be such a desirable transfer target as some of you guys might think.
Report howard April 29, 2021 1:51 PM BST
And if City sign a top striker Utd can't win the league.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B April 29, 2021 2:03 PM BST
As a United fan I hope we don't sign him.  Every time I watch him he does very little.  Can't deny his scoring stats but somehow I don't think he's that great at all.  Looks a bit slow, overweight almost to me.  No of the two give me Son from Spurs anytime.
Report ericster April 29, 2021 2:47 PM BST
I wouldn't argue with that  TARTAN B.
Report FIGJAM April 29, 2021 3:24 PM BST
Well thank god for ignorance, let's hope management feels the same way.
But then plastic Mancs are mostly of the same vein.
He's been carrying Spurs the whole season and would be a huge loss and tremendous gain for any
team if and when he was to leave.
Report ericster April 29, 2021 3:39 PM BST
YUP! Could be FIGS.
But he has ten men [sorry, nine] running for him right now.
We shall see, if/when he puts himself out there.
Report Aspro April 29, 2021 3:51 PM BST
He defends corners/free kicks as good as any centre half; he is responsible for most of Sonny's (and others) goals when he drops deep and he even manages to pop one or two in himself, not forgetting he's a pretty useful keeper too. Personally I feel he does a lot more work than most give him credit for. My only issue with him is his diving, which is becoming a little too obvious now.
Report ericster April 29, 2021 3:54 PM BST
That's just how the game is now Aspro.
We hear of players [winning] penalties, I can't tell you how that grates with me.
Report Aspro April 29, 2021 3:55 PM BST
Europe had it long before us. I recall playing in Belgium once (amateurs) and they were diving all over the place. It ended up in a 22 man brawl!
Report ericster April 29, 2021 3:58 PM BST
Yep, I totally agree.
We must have quite a laughing-stock back in the day.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B April 29, 2021 5:54 PM BST
It was either the Euros or World Cup Finals a few years back and he was absolutely dreadful.

I don't see many Spurs matches at all but the odd one I catch (obviously I see him against United year after year) he seems to do very little.  I've no reason to dislike him I'm just saying what I see.  I wouldn't say it against De Bruyne, wouldn't say it against Foden, Salah, even Son so why am I saying it about Kane? ................ Just saying what I see that's all.

Often when I've seen him he seems to hardly even get a touch let alone play well.
Report scandanavian_haven April 29, 2021 6:10 PM BST
he seems to do very little......apart from what he's paid to do, the hardest thing to do on the pitch, score
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B April 29, 2021 6:15 PM BST
scand

Well we've all got our own opinions but for me he's vastly over rated and I really hope United don't sign him.

I think he's wasting his career at not a great Spurs and he is about 28 now after all so I suggest he go.  I'm sure almost all of the top clubs will be interested, he just doesn't do it for me that's all.
Report ffaith April 29, 2021 7:02 PM BST
Managers like Mason/Southgate allow him to moonlight as a deep lying creator while some poor sap(Sterling or Son)who is not suited to the CF role is saddled with his day job

If he goes to a bigger club I doubt he will be so indulged.  They will spend big money for a CF and they'll expect him to do that job all the time

I don't watch him every week so just my observations
Report ffaith April 29, 2021 7:02 PM BST
Managers like Mason/Southgate allow him to moonlight as a deep lying creator while some poor sap(Sterling or Son)who is not suited to the CF role is saddled with his day job

If he goes to a bigger club I doubt he will be so indulged.  They will spend big money for a CF and they'll expect him to do that job all the time

I don't watch him every week so just my observations
Report swiftynifty June 6, 2021 6:30 PM BST
Of course Grealish is up there too, England are spoilt for choice in the diving department.
Report Capt__F June 6, 2021 8:19 PM BST
greasy grealish master of the tumble
Report layingisthewayforward June 6, 2021 8:23 PM BST
According to some on here Kane does nothing apart from score goals. Didn't he get the most amouny of assists this season?
Report sofaking June 6, 2021 8:59 PM BST

Jun 6, 2021 -- 8:23PM, layingisthewayforward wrote:


According to some on here Kane does nothing apart from score goals. Didn't he get the most amouny of assists this season?


Yes.  Besides being top goal scorer, top assist provider, best playmaker and defender he doesn't do an awful lot.

Report brentford June 6, 2021 9:14 PM BST
He's deceptively good which doesn't work well for many on here I'm sure...
great hold up play which always gets under rated, good first touch, great finisher, great header, unselfish despite his scoring ratio, retains humility despite success...

clearly not the most nimble or spectacular but doesn't really need to be
Report swiftynifty June 6, 2021 9:43 PM BST
This thread was not about Kane's other qualities as a footballer, it was about the England captain being a diver and a cheat.
Report Emitdeb June 6, 2021 9:46 PM BST
LaughLaughLaugh
Report jollyswagman June 6, 2021 9:55 PM BST
fantastic player but most definitely a diver, knows how to invite a challenge and then throw himself to the floor at the slightest touch, plus ca change.
Report brentford June 6, 2021 10:26 PM BST
It's only British and Irish players that were naive enough not to use even the most marginal contact for free kicks and pens for years...

massive credit to Owen for moving that on and the more the merrier come tourny time -though Kane certainly doesn't strike me as an especially obvious 'offender'
Report LoyalHoncho June 6, 2021 10:32 PM BST
If Kane signed for Man Utd I think he would be more hated and villified by his home fans than even van Persie was.  Don't think it would be so bad if he signed for City though.  And he probably will in my view.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B June 6, 2021 10:36 PM BST
loyal

Wasn't Van Persie loved by the United fans?
Report LoyalHoncho June 6, 2021 10:43 PM BST
He should have been - he almost single-handedly won them the title that year, but Arsenal fans till don't forgive him for his move.  No I'm thinking about the Spurs fans should Kane sign up.  I personally have no axe to grind against United but I know that in many areas, particularly London, they are hated and I feel sure that Kane signing at OT would trigger revulsion against their golden boy.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B June 6, 2021 10:50 PM BST
loyal

Oh I see what you mean now, thought you meant United fans didn't like him.

Unfortunately I think  you can't get away from the fact that whilst Spurs are a big club, one of the biggest in the country, United are a complete different level.  By a mile the biggest team in this country and possibly the biggest in the world so if you had to choose between the two it's a complete no contest.

Not saying that purely as a United fan it's just the truth isn't it.
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 6, 2021 10:55 PM BST
Kane is just a penalty taker in modern football.

For Kane to fav for top scorer is some sort of joke, england will always go out on a nil nil lost on pens.
Report LoyalHoncho June 6, 2021 11:00 PM BST
Especially if he just takes the corners?!   Laugh
Report Aspro June 7, 2021 9:59 AM BST
I personally have no axe to grind against United but I know that in many areas, particularly London, they are hated and I feel sure that Kane signing at OT would trigger revulsion against their golden boy.

I hear this a lot about Londoners hating Utd, but it isn't as common as some might think. The hatred is probably people born and raised in London supporting Utd for no other reason than their successes. They think they're cool supporting a successful team whilst the rest of us see them as d1cks. As for hating Utd, the club, these are few and far between.

City would be our preferred choice, but most Spurs fans agree that he deserves to get something out of his career and if he went to Utd instead I don't think too many of us would make that a major issue in our lives. Yes, a few might, but less than you might think.
Report scaredmoney June 7, 2021 10:09 AM BST
If its medals and honours he wants, i dont think United will be top of his list.
Report LoyalHoncho June 7, 2021 7:59 PM BST
Ok Aspro - many thanks mate.  A pal of mine, a Spud, isn't keen on a United move but like you doesn't grudge Harry - who seems a smashing lad by the way - a football golden pension type move.  Good luck.
Report ffaith June 7, 2021 9:14 PM BST
They should rebrand England the Harry Kane team international version.  To compensate for his shortcomings (which he tries to hide by going walkabout in midfield) somebody has to sacrifice his natural game.  Sterling is out of form and Son is Korean so it will probably be Rashford or Grealish.

Weak management methinks.  A good striker lacking a bit of pace and/or movement to be really top draw.
Report roache June 7, 2021 9:30 PM BST
Its only this season though that Kane started defending and playing midfield for Spurs so i place the blame on Mourinho when he should have been doing what he's good at scoring more goals instead of poncing about in midfield
Report Life-Lucky June 8, 2021 12:24 PM BST
Building the Tottenham team around HK hasn't really worked out imho. And I'm still whipped-off about his appearance in the Champions League Final. "I'm fit, boss, honest". THFC could've won that game sans Harry. Liverpool were nervous and it showed. As for the diving, yes, he does, sadly.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B June 8, 2021 12:34 PM BST
Life lucky

A very honest appraisal there.  That makes two of us on the whole forum!
Report LoyalHoncho June 8, 2021 5:59 PM BST
Actually not LOU but if you're happy believing same then who am I to disabuse you.  Many of us said the same thing immediately before and after the lost final.  On here.  You'll have to keep up LOU.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B June 8, 2021 6:11 PM BST
loyal

Ok fair enough.  I'll try to keep up!
Report sofaking June 8, 2021 6:40 PM BST

Jun 8, 2021 -- 12:34PM, LOU MACARIS TARTAN B wrote:


Life luckyA very honest appraisal there.

Report Aspro June 9, 2021 11:19 AM BST
I'm struggling to believe this one because it came via 'The Metro' which I see as a paper that rely on guesswork and is seldom correct. Nevertheless, they've posted an article today saying that City have approached Spurs with an offer of a straight swap for both Jesus & Sterling. Levy has rejected this offer as he is looking for a cash deal ONLY of £150m.

Make of this what you will.
Report scaredmoney June 9, 2021 1:36 PM BST
Was in't Sun yesterday Aspro....make of it what you will Plain
Report scaredmoney June 9, 2021 1:37 PM BST
Bollox to my mind
Report Aspro June 9, 2021 2:37 PM BST
OK sm... I just catch the snippets via my morning browse and probably is bollox. Nevertheless, I'm big on him going to City regardless of swap deals.
Report Aspro June 9, 2021 2:40 PM BST
If there is a snippet of truth to it, this could mean that those two City boys could be on their way.
Report scaredmoney June 9, 2021 2:54 PM BST
Levy paying Sterlings wages makes me a unbeliever...£300k / week?
Report Aspro June 9, 2021 3:43 PM BST
I can believe the offer, to a degree, but Levy wants the cash. This is the problem when you give players stupid salaries; you can't sell them unless you help to pay it. I think we're getting close to the peak now.
Report lurka June 9, 2021 3:52 PM BST
City getting rid of those two would be a bigger win for them than getting Kane
Report scaredmoney June 9, 2021 3:53 PM BST
As Aspro says....be lucky to give Sterling away with the contract he is on.
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