Shanghai E.A.

Can pm if that's okay.

Shenzens odds have come in quite a lot.  I will post some bits I notice Aspro

I don't like the look of that mkt takes all.
Guang maybe not so hot.
And a very good morning to you btw.

Not on the Guan game currently; playing with Upjest II. Early second half goal means I break even. 5, 6 & 7 goals are all earners now! Fingers crossed!

Good luck.

Morning Ericster, I agree, this does not strike me as the goal fest it looked on paper.

Just about to look at the Upjest match and they scored.

Look at those overs prices. Aspro thought they looked a bit short.

There's the 4th! Every goal (if any) pays now!

Not one dangerous attack yet.

Guangzhou just had a shot on target, keeper saved it.  Other than that, nothing.

I was looking at wrong figs.

Dangerous attacks 8-2

Just looked... even money for overs. This might be a game of 2 halves; maybe worth waiting until HT

...and there's the 5th!

Wow, an actual goal!

Lookin good Aspro.

Reckon I'll sit this one out.

Traded out of 6... no brainer!

Sep 9, 2020 -- 11:30AM, Aspro wrote:

Traded out of 6... no brainer!

Sounds good to me.

Inplay stats looking better for Guangzhou, could well be more to come.

Excellent, nicked a nice few quid already on this game so may indulge at HT

Don't think I'm going to get my 7 now; that was worth a few hundred!

Good to see Guang having men up top to start the second half, so they wont be parking the bus.  Fingers crossed for some goals then.

gonna take evens on overs if or when it arrives

ffS!

1.94!!!

I was waiting for 55 minutes to get on over 2.5, oh well always the next game.

Shoulda listen to ericster. Kawasaki 3-2!

The finishing of Shenzhen so far, they couldn't score in a brothel with £500

Maybe a good thing overs was missed

Yeah,  looks that way Aspro.

I'm going on the hunch that this game was pretty dire so the next one must produce!

3 (break even) 5, 6 & 7

Shenzen can feel really unlucky, for me they should have had 2 pens.  Ref is not giving them anything.

They would have probably missed both of them though

Spurs should sell Joe Hart to the Chinese; it would help us

There's the first!

Waiting for HT to decide if I am going to get involved.

Wise

At best I can only see another two goals in this, and that's being really optimistic!  So I am going to give it a little go.  55 mins entry point for over 2.5, take my stake out and hope there is a third goal. Cut my losses at 70 mins if no goal is scored.

*taps fingers*

Interesting. What does that cost, on average?

I'm thinking out loud here... max 50% loss?

It's on average 40%-50% loss yes. It sounds a lot, but so far at least it's worked for me.  It's something I have only started doing the past few weeks on a regular basis.  I am definitely in profit overall with that method.  But it can be frustrating when the final goal you need to bring home the bacon don't come.  Then you have sat and watched a game and got nothing out of it

No it isn't a lot if you're rigid with it because you will get winners too. Good luck with it. I'm currently doing a system (paper-based) that caught my eye. Monday I would have broke even. Tuesday 10x stake profit and today, so far, 4x stake profit... still too early to determine but looks interesting so far.

Thanks.  I sometimes do it slightly different, split my stake in half.  Put half on at 55mins, and the other half at 65 mins, obviously more profitable. You have to stick with it and get out on 70 mins, and not think I will just wait a bit longer because I know the goal will come...it rarely does!  Your system sounds interesting and sounds like you could be on to something.  I hope it works out the way you hoped

If I had £10 for every system I've tried to develop I wouldn't have a mortgage anymore ...but one can dream.

As for "it rarely does" - I've learned that down the years!

I've tried asking Alexa but that system didn't work either

Sep 9, 2020 -- 2:08PM, The_Winner_Takes_It_All wrote:

Thanks.

Sep 9, 2020 -- 2:15PM, Aspro wrote:

I've tried asking Alexa but that system didn't work either

I think that if you're betting overs for trading, you have to bet in stages to get the best odds as they drift.

So I did something slightly different than planned.  Split my stake in 3.  entering at 55mins, 60mins, and 65 mins.  cashing out at 70 mins.  Loss is 32.9%

At those times prices are starting to run. Good luck with that takes all.

32.9% That's not terrible at all, especially considering the gains you could have made or will make from time to time. Fingers crossed the long-term equals the short-term, or better!

Yes they are starting to run away quite quickly.  That's why you must get out at 70 mins.

Thanks Aspro. 7 and a half minutes since I got out, odds almost doubled.  I would be in a world of hurt right now if I had stayed in

Sep 9, 2020 -- 2:36PM, The_Winner_Takes_It_All wrote:

Yes they are starting to run away quite quickly.

Even with that goal just scored, I doubt I would have seen much/if any profit.

I had go at playing with overs, obviously wasn't doing it right. I liked to be out before H/T. Sometimes you can have a saver on lower overs because eventually those silly short prices that you couldn't take at K/O become backable but you still need to pull one off.

Everyone has certain markets they prefer.  I cant stand unders, I pick games that on paper should be 1 or 2 goals, and end up with five! 

Seemples.

I suppose with whatever you play, the hope is to be on the green side. And the dream lives.

Goals are my ruin, but I love them! Hence why I only toy with them for small stakes these days... I've learned! You're right to leave them alone ericster

I'm trying to play/trade in the match mkt but I have very tight parameters.

My main two systems are singles only, match odds only. Most weeks I usually find one or two, but as previously pointed out, on one of them it is three weeks now, but that is not unusual pre-season

...and I never divulge my selections on the forum. Worst jinx of them all!

And so, we have to be patient. Used to play the nags, was a real form anorak, would spend time trying to pick a selection to pieces before backing, but, as with this lark, the good bets scream out to be backed, they jump out at you, well that's my experience, so the trick is wait for those screamers.

Jinx? Lol! It's the kiss of death.

Precisely... I name my systems and the two aforementioned are called Patience A & S. They are the ones that (as you say) jump out at you

A big part of my plan depends on the S/Ps, I like to think that I am getting a feel for how my kind of market may or may not react to certain developments, but it's early days.

Good morning gentlemen. My daughter has just phoned and is popping in for a spot of lunch so doubt I'll be on these today. Good luck if you choose to play.

1-0 in Beijing

Need another goal in the Beijing game

Was there a disallowed goal earlier for the away team

yes grant

How was there not another goal

Not too be

Afternoon chaps. Back now and gone for Over 3.5 in the Shanghai game. Bit of gamble, but hey ho; it's due!

it's absolutely p1ssing down, large portions of the pitch are almost waterlogged. very hard to see a glut of goals in those conditions

Just had a nap but will take your advice and cut my losses; cheers bm

50% loss, that could have been worse if it wasn't for that late first half goal

Looking like 2-0

Arnautovic and Hulk.

Arnie and The Incredible Hulk

2-1

Romain Reigns

3-3

Monday 14th three first half goals in Henan

The Shenzhen win was likely today but wasn't expecting that. Missed the boat today, as I did yesterday with the 3-3

0-3 HT, there should be more in the second half but you never know.

0-3 60 minutes.

1-3 FT

Next game

Dalian Pro v Shanghai Shenhua currently 0-0 after ten minutes.

Having watched the first ten minutes Dalian look more likely to score first.

and there she blows

Not on goals in this game, but have got Dalian on a paper-based system I'm toying with

1-1 FT Salomon Rondon on the score sheet

Tuesday 15th

Wuhan Zall (home of the corona virus v Shanghai SIPG

0-0 HT

With Oscar, Hulk and Arnautovic, SIPG should be able to find the bet imo in the second half.

Was on overs from the off, but that was just break-even for more goals so no gain, no loss on the first game. Odds too skinny for the second game but may consider a HT bet.

Unable to log onto forum this morning. Annoying when that happens

Hebei 1-0

1-2 HT, which would explain the skinny prices