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06 May 20
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I think we know the truth now don't we
Watch the wancors scarper after this
Watch the wancors scarper after this
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At long last. Some decent sport to look forward to. None of this virtual or recorded nonsense!
It's far too early to try this and there's no way this can last more than one round of games. Hope to be proved wrong, but I suspect this will end badly and be the catalyst for all the big leagues to cancel their seasons.
jamee...behind closed doors so i dont see why it shouldnt be fine
germans lead the way again - good luck to them
As long as thick idiot supporters don't start turning up at the grounds then should be fine
As long as thick idiot supporters don't start turning up at the grounds then should be fine
Rothko... it doesn't matter about fans. In Germany it may be different but in the UK people have been told to keep a 2m distance between themselves. How do you play football in this country with that rule in place. First corner and the police go onto the pitch and warn players about their future conduct. Second corner and they fine players, third and arrests are made.
Footballers are no different than us. Otherwise, forget all the rules and we'll just mix and mingle as we please.
Over 70's have to self isolate but footballers can mingle, tackle, spit, jostle.... crazy and unworkable.
Footballers are no different than us. Otherwise, forget all the rules and we'll just mix and mingle as we please.
Over 70's have to self isolate but footballers can mingle, tackle, spit, jostle.... crazy and unworkable.
It's not just the crowds, its the players. Imagine there are 40 people per team making up the players and immediate staff, and these 40 people come into contact with another 200 people who make up their close family/friends etc. Then they play another team of another 200 people. Before you know it every player has potentially been exposed to thousands of points of contact. Then just one of these players/friends/family etc comes down with Covid and you go back down the chain and hundreds of players are put out of action for 14 days. It won't get past week 1 if it makes it that far.
Just little spike and its goodnight Vienna anyway
We'll see how it plays out, this just seems far to quickly its a bit suspicious if you ask me
We'll see how it plays out, this just seems far to quickly its a bit suspicious if you ask me
The track and trace app only registers a contact if you're within 6 feet for 15 minutes, so fleeting contact outdoors in a football match isn't that high risk. When you consider hairdressers are working in Germany the risk to footballers is minimal in comparison. Shared changing rooms and facilities are probably bigger risk factors.
In Germany it may be different but in the UK people have been told to keep a 2m distance between themselves. How do you play football in this country with that rule in place. First corner and the police go onto the pitch and warn players about their future conduct. Second corner and they fine players, third and arrests are made.
Have you seen the Arsenal defence since 2005?
Have you seen the Arsenal defence since 2005?
.....and meanwhile London comes to a complete standstill until a vaccine is found?
TheGoldenVision • May 6, 2020 10:22 PM BST
Rothko... it doesn't matter about fans. In Germany it may be different but in the UK people have been told to keep a 2m distance between themselves. How do you play football in this country with that rule in place. First corner and the police go onto the pitch and warn players about their future conduct. Second corner and they fine players, third and arrests are made.
Footballers are no different than us. Otherwise, forget all the rules and we'll just mix and mingle as we please.
Over 70's have to self isolate but footballers can mingle, tackle, spit, jostle.... crazy and unworkable.
its not crazy and unworkable at all
Of course there is a risk of infection and there will be until and even if there is a vaccine. The proposals minimize that risk and that's the best they can do. They will be tested at least twice a week. They are having contact for probably 2 games a week ffs. They can even self isolate from their families if they are that scared as many other key workers have done over these last weeks. Do you think the people returning to work from next week, using public transport, working 10 hour days, are at less risk? They are going home to families as well.
The comparison with the over 70's is ridiculous. They are isolated because they are a vulnerable group and have more chance of death
How many current professional footballers, rugby players have died of Covid 19 across the world? Can you name 1? Im sick of hearing the whining and crying from ex and current footballers - its pathetic
We are celebrating the 75th anniversary of VE day and I wouldn't have wanted any of those soft spoilt brats in the trenches with me
Rothko... it doesn't matter about fans. In Germany it may be different but in the UK people have been told to keep a 2m distance between themselves. How do you play football in this country with that rule in place. First corner and the police go onto the pitch and warn players about their future conduct. Second corner and they fine players, third and arrests are made.
Footballers are no different than us. Otherwise, forget all the rules and we'll just mix and mingle as we please.
Over 70's have to self isolate but footballers can mingle, tackle, spit, jostle.... crazy and unworkable.
its not crazy and unworkable at all
Of course there is a risk of infection and there will be until and even if there is a vaccine. The proposals minimize that risk and that's the best they can do. They will be tested at least twice a week. They are having contact for probably 2 games a week ffs. They can even self isolate from their families if they are that scared as many other key workers have done over these last weeks. Do you think the people returning to work from next week, using public transport, working 10 hour days, are at less risk? They are going home to families as well.
The comparison with the over 70's is ridiculous. They are isolated because they are a vulnerable group and have more chance of death
How many current professional footballers, rugby players have died of Covid 19 across the world? Can you name 1? Im sick of hearing the whining and crying from ex and current footballers - its pathetic
We are celebrating the 75th anniversary of VE day and I wouldn't have wanted any of those soft spoilt brats in the trenches with me
Confirmed and going ahead with the first matches Saturday the 16th May. Just nine days away. Good luck and lets hope it goes well.
Rothko... I couldn't agree more with the sentiments you've expressed. Is the lockdown over the top? I don't know but the experts say not.
There are rules in place for everybody, civvies, sportsmen and women, kids et al. Those rules include 2m space seperation. That seperation exists whether you've been tested or not. Whether the tests, if taken, are clear or not. 2m seperation.
95% of the population have never had covid-19 and a small % have had it and recovered. Test that 95% and you'll probably get completely(ish) negative results. It still wouldn't matter... that seperation will still apply to everyone.
It matters not how many tests footballers have, they still need to maintain a 2m seperation and I reckon that can't be done in a game of football. That's all I'm saying.
Change the rule or relax it... who cares but you can't just ignore it, because it doesn't suit you (the football authorities that is)
Anyway, let's hope the Germans carry on with no problems... I need football!!!!!
There are rules in place for everybody, civvies, sportsmen and women, kids et al. Those rules include 2m space seperation. That seperation exists whether you've been tested or not. Whether the tests, if taken, are clear or not. 2m seperation.
95% of the population have never had covid-19 and a small % have had it and recovered. Test that 95% and you'll probably get completely(ish) negative results. It still wouldn't matter... that seperation will still apply to everyone.
It matters not how many tests footballers have, they still need to maintain a 2m seperation and I reckon that can't be done in a game of football. That's all I'm saying.
Change the rule or relax it... who cares but you can't just ignore it, because it doesn't suit you (the football authorities that is)
Anyway, let's hope the Germans carry on with no problems... I need football!!!!!
Good news. Bt sport will be covering this right ?
95% of the population have never had covid-19 and a small % have had it and recovered
You'd be surprised - my daughter works on front line of the NHS and out of 25% of the positive tests in her hospital are people showing no symptoms. Think it was similar for the cruise ships that were quarantined and these were mainly old people
You'd be surprised - my daughter works on front line of the NHS and out of 25% of the positive tests in her hospital are people showing no symptoms. Think it was similar for the cruise ships that were quarantined and these were mainly old people
dont count chickens, been a spike in germany, some towns in lockdown
2 Dresden players "tested positive" and the whole team in isolation
Can't see it lasting long, one big player tests positive ala Arteta scenario and its over for another month
Can't see it lasting long, one big player tests positive ala Arteta scenario and its over for another month
Germany are miles ahead on testing and contact tracing vs eg. UK makes it much easier to play though. To play you basically need to be able to repeatedly test footballers for rest of season. Only really South Korea of major countries have also managed this.
South Korea are even further ahead in terms of contact tracing too.
Germany’s plans to restart competitive football next Saturday suffered an early setback after the entire Dynamo Dresden team were placed in a two-week quarantine following two positive coronavirus tests among the players.
The Bundesliga 2 club announced on their website that tests taken on Friday had revealed two new positive cases and local health authorities had ordered the team into quarantine. Dresden were scheduled to play Hannover 96 next Sunday in their first game back following the stoppage caused by the coronavirus outbreak.
“After an intensive analysis of the situation, the health authority in Dresden … decided on Saturday that the entire second division squad, including the coaching and support team, must now go into a 14-day quarantine at home,” the club said. “Due to the quarantine measures, [we] will not be able to travel to Lower Saxony for the away game on matchday 26 as planned.”
Dynamo’s sporting director, Ralf Minge, said: “In the past few weeks, we have made enormous efforts in terms of personnel and logistics in order to strictly implement all the prescribed medical and hygienic measures. We are in contact with the responsible health authority and the DFL [German Football League] to coordinate all further steps. The fact is that we can neither train nor participate in the game in the next 14 days.”
The Bundesliga announced this week that it would restart on 16 May after the government gave its approval. The league has drawn up a detailed set of regulations and guidelines for training and matches to reduce the risk of transmitting the virus, including stringent testing. However, the question of how to respond to positive tests is out of the hands of the league as German law states any response to cases is a matter for the local health authority.
The league has been on hold since mid-March because of the coronavirus outbreak which has brought football to a standstill around the world and Germany’s progress is being closely watched by other leagues.
On Monday, the DFL said it had registered 10 positive cases in a blanket test of 1,724 players and staff at its 36 first and second division clubs.
The Bundesliga 2 club announced on their website that tests taken on Friday had revealed two new positive cases and local health authorities had ordered the team into quarantine. Dresden were scheduled to play Hannover 96 next Sunday in their first game back following the stoppage caused by the coronavirus outbreak.
“After an intensive analysis of the situation, the health authority in Dresden … decided on Saturday that the entire second division squad, including the coaching and support team, must now go into a 14-day quarantine at home,” the club said. “Due to the quarantine measures, [we] will not be able to travel to Lower Saxony for the away game on matchday 26 as planned.”
Dynamo’s sporting director, Ralf Minge, said: “In the past few weeks, we have made enormous efforts in terms of personnel and logistics in order to strictly implement all the prescribed medical and hygienic measures. We are in contact with the responsible health authority and the DFL [German Football League] to coordinate all further steps. The fact is that we can neither train nor participate in the game in the next 14 days.”
The Bundesliga announced this week that it would restart on 16 May after the government gave its approval. The league has drawn up a detailed set of regulations and guidelines for training and matches to reduce the risk of transmitting the virus, including stringent testing. However, the question of how to respond to positive tests is out of the hands of the league as German law states any response to cases is a matter for the local health authority.
The league has been on hold since mid-March because of the coronavirus outbreak which has brought football to a standstill around the world and Germany’s progress is being closely watched by other leagues.
On Monday, the DFL said it had registered 10 positive cases in a blanket test of 1,724 players and staff at its 36 first and second division clubs.
Well there you go...
"The fact is that we can neither train nor participate in a game in the next 14 days," said Dynamo.
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- and, the Premier League are going to play all their remaining 92 games - without a hitch
'Pull the other one'.
"The fact is that we can neither train nor participate in a game in the next 14 days," said Dynamo.
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- and, the Premier League are going to play all their remaining 92 games - without a hitch
'Pull the other one'.
who's saying that everything will go without a hitch
ffs we are in the middle of a fecking global pandemic
the only thing is to minimize the risk as much as possible - until there is a vaccine there will always be risk
players who test positive can self isolate like the rest of the population have to
good luck to the germans I hope they manage to pull it off - the alternative is a lot more clubs going into administration and a lot of unemployed ex professional footballers - they could do some fruit picking
ffs we are in the middle of a fecking global pandemic
the only thing is to minimize the risk as much as possible - until there is a vaccine there will always be risk
players who test positive can self isolate like the rest of the population have to
good luck to the germans I hope they manage to pull it off - the alternative is a lot more clubs going into administration and a lot of unemployed ex professional footballers - they could do some fruit picking
They could have trained individually or in bubbles, so if 1 tested positive it's just them or a bubble of 3 or 4 that needs to isolate. This approach would affect quality though and Dresden are bottom of the league so they aren't going to compromise.
Nah can't see this lasting long sadly 
5 players in Spain "tested positive" today, no chance this lasts longer than a fortnight
5 players in Spain "tested positive" today, no chance this lasts longer than a fortnight
Well, if we are going to be waiting for a vaccine then we are going to be waiting a long time. 18 months isnt it?
No football club is going to pay a multi million dollar yearly pay roll to their players for that length of time.
The clubs are going to have to attempt a resumption else the business just folds.
I would imagine in this circumstance plenty of veteran players who have made a nice living off the game could probably just call it a day.
Tho judging by the way some of them have been adhering to the lockdown guidelines, it may not be that much of a problem.
No football club is going to pay a multi million dollar yearly pay roll to their players for that length of time.
The clubs are going to have to attempt a resumption else the business just folds.
I would imagine in this circumstance plenty of veteran players who have made a nice living off the game could probably just call it a day.
Tho judging by the way some of them have been adhering to the lockdown guidelines, it may not be that much of a problem.
and when the furlough scheme ends players in the leagues below PL wont be paid
So clubs would be effectively mothballed for months and would have to start up from scratch
I imagine some PL clubs may go under as well as they have players on longer contracts that they could not afford to pay
So clubs would be effectively mothballed for months and would have to start up from scratch
I imagine some PL clubs may go under as well as they have players on longer contracts that they could not afford to pay
....Dynamo’s sporting director, Ralf Minge,
that brightened my day considerably
that brightened my day considerably
If/when the Bundesliga DOES return, the form-book goes out of the window so I don't know if I'd want to get involved with it anyway. Better to let them get into a new season I think. Treat any of these catch up games ( if there are any ) as pre-season.
would look at backing goals especially if social distancing is still in mindset.
Interesting comment there mackem. I'm sure there will be more than a few players thinking about that.
aye, it was sort of tongue in cheek but might be an element of viability in it.
Belarus and Nicaragua have carried on regardless. No players have tested positive, no deaths. I am sure someone can explain this away. If you go by the official narrative shouldn't they be dropping like flies? I am probably too thick to undestand virus politics.
May 11, 2020 -- 11:49AM, ffaith wrote:
Belarus and Nicaragua have carried on regardless.
Clarification needed. Does this mean we can stop pretending we enjoy watching Belarus soccah? Ta
ffaith 15 May 20 11:35
Clarification needed. Does this mean we can stop pretending we enjoy watching Belarus soccah? Ta
Clarification needed. Does this mean we can stop pretending we enjoy watching Belarus soccah? Ta
May 15, 2020 -- 7:24AM, duffy wrote:
ffaith 15 May 20 11:35 Clarification needed. Does this mean we can stop pretending we enjoy watching Belarus soccah? Ta
No complaints here duffy.
Like someone said in another thread, DAFFODIL I think, it focuses the mind. Fewer games cultivates a familiarity with the workings of the markets therein imo.Or at least it SHOULD do.
I've still got a headache after watching one of Juventus Managua's home games, it looked like a bunch of five aside pitches spliced together with markings all over the shop, it seemed wider than it was long, no wonder they have a decent home record.
How is the German 2nd division managing to do this behind closed doors? I can't imagine our Championship doing similar with no money coming in. If I understand correctly, once you start playing again the furlough ends, so clubs have to pay the players but don't have any income. That's the reason why League 1 and 2 clubs don't want the restart, unless they have a chance of promotion.
What is clear is that you need fans even if you are watching at home, just feels like you're watching friendlies, this is going to be desperate for the next few months, yes it's better than nothing but not by as much as you'd think.
Yeah don't see the point in this, can't see people bothering until fans are allowed back in the stadium
Horse Racing is a bit different because you only really hear the crowd in the final 2 or 3 furlongs and if needs be you can play real crowd noise over the tannoy/TV feed if we're getting picky
Horse Racing wont be a problem but football needs fans
Horse Racing is a bit different because you only really hear the crowd in the final 2 or 3 furlongs and if needs be you can play real crowd noise over the tannoy/TV feed if we're getting picky
Horse Racing wont be a problem but football needs fans
Personally after watching the first half of the Augsburg game I'd just cancel it until fans are allowed back
How long they been back in training as well?
How long they been back in training as well?
Just checked the matched money in that game though and 526,000 quid matched
I'm assuming Dortmund has a lot more matched
I'm assuming Dortmund has a lot more matched
Oh... 4.2m matched in the Dortmund game
Maybe people have missed it
Maybe people have missed it
Yeah racing will be fine, nothing from within a race is affected by the crowd, the excitement of placing a bet won't be altered when you're sat at home riding a finish if spectators are there or not.
Football needs fans that much is obvious
I said that when Serie A went behind closed doors
This is turgid stuff
I said that when Serie A went behind closed doors
This is turgid stuff
Like Augsburg just equilise and nothing
Just ran back to the middle and off we go, no fans going berserk and no adrenaline from scoring for the home team, no celebration
YES!!! football needs fans
Just ran back to the middle and off we go, no fans going berserk and no adrenaline from scoring for the home team, no celebration
YES!!! football needs fans
I wish someone would quarantine VAR. Completely ruined the end of the Freiburg match.
VAR cost me a few quid today. When Frieberg made it 2-1 I green up for a very tidy profit. Only to reversed. Same thing happened to me when Augsburg took the lead to make it 2-1 earlier, with salt rubbed into the wound with Wolfsburg scoring an injury time winner..
What I did find rather funny was the touchline 2m rule, yet coming out for the 2nd half they were walking side by side and jumping all over each other during the match
Come on lets just end this nonsense
Come on lets just end this nonsense
Over 2.5 acca destroyed by var in freiberg game. If he wouldn't have had a Mullet he was onside
I didn't see it loui
But at least it gives us something else to moan about I guess, 2 months of seething about the other joke of an event has done me in
But at least it gives us something else to moan about I guess, 2 months of seething about the other joke of an event has done me in
Alan Biley= Legendary Mullet. Had to be related to Wurzel Gummidge. Sontaran he.looked level, forward nearer to goal looked offside, but the microscope nailed him, I think.
If the season did get voided at least all the VAR nonsense would have been voided with it.
Void
All
Results
Void
All
Results
May 16, 2020 -- 9:43AM, SontaranStratagem wrote:
Like Augsburg just equilise and nothing Just ran back to the middle and off we go, no fans going berserk and no adrenaline from scoring for the home team, no celebration YES!!! football needs fans
I disagree, do we REALLY need all that crowd-violence and players hugging and kissing? Ugh! All eyes on the football, wouldn't THAT be something. It become a sport. Now would be THAT be something else.
SontaranStratagem • May 16, 2020 7:57 PM BST
I didn't see it loui
But at least it gives us something else to moan about I guess, 2 months of seething about the other joke of an event has done me in
if its getting to you that much just switch it off and stop crying
I didn't see it loui
But at least it gives us something else to moan about I guess, 2 months of seething about the other joke of an event has done me in
if its getting to you that much just switch it off and stop crying
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