Premier league season finnish

So finish the season in September-movement, what's the rush..

*September-November

players out of contract in June, players next season out of contract. Starting next season in time to finish before the Euro's, December way too late.

Someone needs to tell the virus that it needs to get out of the way by September, 'cos we need to restart football. Let's hope it's listening.

Don't think it will be listening though.

Why is December too late to start next season?

Would be too early if this one ends in November.

Just do it with a different format January-May.

Apr 28, 2020 -- 9:28PM, TheGoldenVision wrote:

Someone needs to tell the virus that it needs to get out of the way by September, 'cos we need to restart football. Let's hope it's listening.Don't think it will be listening though.

I am fine with waiting til it's safe to resume. Maybe December or next March. But finish this season whenever it is.

Well if you are relying on God to intervene its quite possible,i am informed God loves Football,in fact i am told he play's for Barcelona.

it's safe to resume now behind closed doors  but it won't be good for the product   ...it will be like resuming  F1 driving around in Dacia Dusters .

It will get moved to Qatar

the virus has pretty much buggered off to be fair

I honestly believe you need to accept this season is over. Whether they void it (doubtful) or sort it out, allocating PPG (probably), it's done.

Whatever is going to cost the Prem the least (via the courts) is the way they'll go. It's a money situation now.

What costs then the least is obviously finishing this season.

No refunds of TV money, no clubs suing them etc

First Var,Then Corona,and a depression on the way ,not a good time for football.

Euro 2021 will start June 12th

just to give you idea of congestion/time constraints, if you start 1st Saturday in December and played just prem games, it's December 5th, you'd have to play Saturday-Wednesday-Saturday-Wednesday just to finish all 38 games by the third week of April, but of course season would end around May 17th as UEFA want seasons in tournaments years to end 25 days or so before tournament begins, but it's not doable for several reasons, we have a winter break now, there are Champions League/Europa games that UEFA will not give up/cancel, there are domestic cup games which are lifelines for many smaller clubs particular plum FA Cup ties, the winter break we have and all 20 clubs/players are not used to playing that much football in that short space of time, more likely to have injuries and big players missing UEFA's tournament.

all Klopp and Pep have ever moaned about since coming to England is fixture congestion,  too much football, don't think they'd be in favour.

And you have to Factor in a possible second wave of Corona.Tough decisions to be made.

It would be harsh to relegate Bournemouth on goal difference with nearly a quarter (23.7%) of the season still "to play".  Villa are only in the relegation zone by a couple of points and even bottom side Norwich could feasibly work their way out.  Wolves are only 2 points off a potential Champions League spot and Spurs/Arsenal are only 5/6 points off.  Arsenal have a game in hand, giving them over a quarter of the season unplayed.  There will be clubs with slightly lower league positions at the moment because they've played the "big boys" but have a more comfortable run-in.

there will be a second wave in late September October once the UVA levels die down

which is why i think the prem league will resume in australia/new zealand or earlier still in the middle east

What costs then the least is obviously finishing this season.


What would it cost the prem for these headlines...

"Following the restart to the season, Paul Pogba rushed to hospital"
"Pogba succumbs to corana virus"

They'll be factoring that in as well.

i would void next season ( 20-21) and restart this season up this time next year if all ok by then .

No more football until March 2021 and then finish this season???? That's an idea.

yes , thats me idea

so no danger of litigation etc

football clubs in lower leagues would go bust without football for that long, the football pyramid would collapse like a sandcastle

Apr 28, 2020 -- 9:57PM, darren_discombobulates_sports wrote:

Euro 2021 will start June 12thjust to give you idea of congestion/time constraints, if you start 1st Saturday in December and played just prem games, it's December 5th, you'd have to play Saturday-Wednesday-Saturday-Wednesday just to finish all 38 games by the third week of April, but of course season would end around May 17th as UEFA want seasons in tournaments years to end 25 days or so before tournament begins, but it's not doable for several reasons, we have a winter break now, there are Champions League/Europa games that UEFA will not give up/cancel, there are domestic cup games which are lifelines for many smaller clubs particular plum FA Cup ties, the winter break we have and all 20 clubs/players are not used to playing that much football in that short space of time, more likely to have injuries and big players missing UEFA's tournament.

If you have 5 or 6 months then of course you can't play a 38 game season. Just adapt the format to the time available. So just 19 games everyone plays each other once, or have north/south divisions with play offs at the end, which would be about 21 games.

you're not being serious are you, finish this season no matter what just to have a half season next season? that's not a league season it's part time stuff, like a micky mouse league. It would never be considered a real league title amongst fans and certainly not valued as much as titles won in full seasons.

that means teams are playing 10 home games and 9 away games or 9 home games and 10 away games, it's unfair from the off for many teams, and what if Liverpool are drawn at home 10 times and City 9, unfair advantage for Liverpool, unless you thinking all season behind close doors which wont happens as without the fans the tv/sponsors would not be happy/willing to pay and clubs would lose season long gate receipt income which would kill most, and what if City have the 10 home games and they're against the 10 teams outside the top 6 whereas Liverpool get 10 away games  and mostly against top 6-8 top ranked teams, too many unfair scenarios.

too many unfair scenarios.
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football isn't meant to be fair   ......let the dog see the rabbit

The 10 home 9 away has been suggested. Arsenal/Spurs, City/United would just flip a coin to see who got the extra home game I suppose.

My preference would be to have North/South divisions with the top 3 from each playing off at the end.

So what are you guys wanting to do if we can't play til December ? Void this season and cancel the next one too because you couldn't play 38 games ??????

And you say this is because it is best for profitability? Seriously......

Professor Van-Tam( who i personally explains the science very well to the public) who we have seen in the press confrences is on the board advising science and sport. Its very unlikely he would allow the Premier League to re-start football in this country.

Why couldnt this season start in September or the begining of next year if the virus is more under control?

The 10 home 9 away has been suggested. Arsenal/Spurs, City/United would just flip a coin to see who got the extra home game I suppose.


er this is the point I'm, making, you can't do that its unfair for all the reasons I listed. It wont happen.

Not sure why you are saying December also

I am saying December because maybe it can't be resumed til December. I am not in favour of the 10 home 9 away, I just mentioned it as it has been suggested by others as a way of having a league season when there is only time for about 20 games. As I said there are other ways to do a 20 or so game season which are better and fairer. Having a 20 game season format is surely better than not having one at all.

And I again I have to ask, if this season must be cancelled because next season must be a full, 38 game, season, then what do you do if there could not be a resumption until late this year/early 2021 ? Abandon next season too ? So we have 4 or 5 months when football is playable but we just don't have any ????

Some crazy suggestions about, on the other thread someone was banging on about all football fixtures concluded this season by a penalty shootout - utterly ridiculous I'd sooner see the season voided than an idea as mad as that going ahead where teams are relegated or make the CL on a pen shootout. The playing of one home or away game is almost as absurd as the penalty shootout, itd undermine the credibility of the league forever if teams are winning silverware or relegated using that template.

I'd personally sooner void next season than void this one and resume this season whenever it is.. if players are out of contract then allow a small transfer window before the resumption of this season whenever it is and get on with it. It's the most palatable of all the option, we've had 3/4 of this season and the priority should be to finish it above next season which could be abandoned again anyway.

Got to laugh at the massive overreaction, this thing has barely killed anyone worldwide, 4 months and 200,000 deaths?

With the slowing death rate now

And please don't mention lock down, this country hasn't been on lock down at all, we've been social distancing, even in Spain and Italy they were allowed to go to the supermarkets ffs

200,000 deaths and 180,000 of those were over 70s

Utterly mind boggling

I am saying December because maybe it can't be resumed til December. I am not in favour of the 10 home 9 away, I just mentioned it as it has been suggested by others as a way of having a league season when there is only time for about 20 games. As I said there are other ways to do a 20 or so game season which are better and fairer. Having a 20 game season format is surely better than not having one at all.

And I again I have to ask, if this season must be cancelled because next season must be a full, 38 game, season, then what do you do if there could not be a resumption until late this year/early 2021 ? Abandon next season too ? So we have 4 or 5 months when football is playable but we just don't have any ????

December is a random date? thought you were going by something...
If they were pushed for time, really unlikely they'd ever have a shortened season, playing everyone once just doesn't work and too many unfair advantages and disadvantages, even scrapping domestic cup games to try and fit in a 38 games season still doesn't work because of CL/EU, even if that were scrapped just no chance sat-wed-sat-wed football would work as it's too much.

I wouldn't say this season has to be cancelled so next season could be full, this season would most likely be cancelled because the contractual issues, players out of contract in June, then there's players out of contract next year, if this season went on till late November early Decembers, players are in the driving seat, can simply run down their contracts, clubs would have to sell cheap if they could sell. Though that begs another question, who wants to buy big anymore anyway.

At the moment the situation is far too unpredictable to nail your colors to the mast for any return date.
If the Bundsliga is going to come back next month that should give us at least some idea of what is possible.

Presumably this season's bets on premier winner and leading goalscorer will be paid on those leading ie Liverpool and Vardy at the point of official season abandonment.

Be bookmaker goodwills if are

wolf-not sure why teams cant be relegated or get into CL on penalty shoot outs. In the biggest trophy /game (WC final) its a regular occurence.

^ Dear, oh, dear - desperation post

That would turn far more fans OFF the game - some/many forever - than it would satisfy in such a short-term solution scenario.

Bundesliga start-up put back for at least a week. German government delaying giving the go ahead. Not looking good for any sort of football being played this side of September. Lawyers are sharpening their pencils and notifying their bank managers... get ready for large influx of funds.

Dangling the carrot, getting people all nostalgic about their old ways

Face it you ain't going back to the old "normal", its done

onlooker-The penalty shoot out idea is proposed as a LAST RESORT scenario, that would complete the season quickly and unequivocally, without any need to void it and all that entails.It could be done anytime between now and september without impinging on following season so theres no hurry.
I'm not sure your reason for "turning off fans " is either true or relevant.

I've yet to hear a really good reason why the penalty shoot out idea is unachievable or less preferable than voiding.

but it wouldn't complete it, it would make it a laughing stock, 29 full games than 9 penalty shoot out matches? and it's also very unfair, some teams will avoid playing teams much better than them in the league yet all of a sudden are presented with a 50/50 shootout game. It's not something the league would entertain, it's either finish the season behind closed doors or null and void

Apr 30, 2020 -- 8:57PM, ONION wrote:

wolf-not sure why teams cant be relegated or get into CL on penalty shoot outs. In the biggest trophy /game (WC final) its a regular occurence.

A team relegated on a penalty shootout? I'm assuming this is a windup

Teams that reach the CL final or world cup final with it ending on a penalty shootout are normally evenly matched and have had 2 hours to separate themselves .. deciding for eg City vs Norwich or Liverpool vs west ham on penalties turning two games that have a 95% chance of a city/pool win into close to 50/50 is a ridiculous idea. If it ever happened with teams being relegated due to this, apart from the legal ramifications the league would be a joke around the world suffering permanent damage to its reputation forever.

Im more bothered about the UK Premier League, than the one in Finland , tbh.

morpteh mackem 

i would void next season ( 20-21) and restart this season up this time next year if all ok by then .


That's still the best idea around. No litigation, no arguing..... unfortunately, no football either for 10 months.

The Premier League’s 20 clubs outlined at a meeting on Friday their determination to complete the season amid the pandemic.

Although no decisions were taken on the next steps, the participants are understood to have been pleased with the progress made.

A lengthy meeting included plenty of discussion about logistics, including how to lock down grounds and create safe environments, the possibility of playing matches at neutral venues, and protocols around testing, including the regularity with which those should be done.

In a statement the league said:

"The clubs reconfirmed their commitment to finishing the 2019-20 season, maintaining integrity of the competition and welcomed the government’s support. The league and clubs are considering the first tentative moves forward and will only return to training and playing with government guidance, under expert medical advice and after consultation with players and managers."

TheGoldenVision 01 May 20 14:09 
morpteh mackem

i would void next season ( 20-21) and restart this season up this time next year if all ok by then .


That's still the best idea around. No litigation, no arguing..... unfortunately, no football either for 10 months.

The problem is most clubs would have gone bust by then without some form of bailout. You would also have the issue of sporting integrity as squads may be very different in 10 months time.

If they are not able to restart by the summer then they will have to call it quits on this season.

This time last year.....





I wonder what ever happened to that man from China and Liverpool's mickey mouse NEUTRAL title charge.

allow promotion, scrap relegation, everybody is happy


bonus of extra premier league games to replace non existent cups next season

It would be hilarious if they ended up with 22 teams in the PL after the relentless whinging about too many games

May 3, 2020 -- 5:28PM, TheBetterBettor wrote:

This time last year.....I wonder what ever happened to that man from China and Liverpool's mickey mouse NEUTRAL title charge.

And your point is the saddest of sad saps attaching themselves to the great club of United, thebitterbighter?

That guy celebrated long into the night when Liverpool were crowned European Champions for a 6th (yest sixth) time.

He did so again when we were crowned Club world champions.

He is now just waiting for us to be confirmed as English Champions, for a 19th time, before celebrating yet again.

Time to crawl back under your rock thebitterbighter?

GB - I've been wondering about that myself. If you can't play the games - and it's a huge if, given the sums the league would lose - then maybe scrap relegation and allow Leeds and WBA up seeing as they are relatively clear (though Fulham could throw a pebble in that pond). Then relegate four for the next two years. I'd imagine the top teams could whinge at the extra matches, but would probably be at least 14 who'd take it.

----you-have-to-laugh--- 03 May 20 16:35 
allow promotion, scrap relegation, everybody is happy


bonus of extra premier league games to replace non existent cups next season

The premier league are not happy chucking a bone to the lower leagues

Cant see them wanting to share their pot of gold with 2 or 3 more clubs

you couldn't just promote Leeds and West Brom, there's max 27 points to play for still and quite a few teams who could still gain those two spots, realistically you could say maybe down to 5th however, then there's the play off spot. Again it would be partially settling both leagues which isn't really satisfactory nor does it keep the leagues' integrity.

I think the league is thinking only to finish the league properly as soon as they can, a lot hinges on what is announced by the government this Thursday.

get rid of the epl  - we now have new heroes in a good kick about honest league

we no longer need the fragile egos of the epl and the gross inflated disgusting balloon of massive salaries and a sucking up and  worship of the chinese usa and saudi money spinners -  it is immoral I hope it explodes

No relegation means the bottom clubs won't try against the top flight clubs in an already very diluted situation  .....Like Bournemouth said about the'neutral' games, the premier league will very fast lose any credibility and integrity in the game.  Just scrap the whole lot.

How many players in how many teams who aren't involved in the fight for Euro or relegation places are going to be keen on risking their health and their families health?

Squads should isolate together for 6 weeks, officials the same, problem solved.

If that sort or solution is needed to finish the season... I can't see next season even getting out of the blocks.

I agree TGV, so there is no point in even thinking about stopping this season if next season is unlikely to even start.............what would be the point?

At some point though, if social distancing is going to be with us for say 12 months or so, (as the Government is hinting) the prima-donas on their vast inflated contracts will have to have these decimated as even the the top premier league clubs can't go on forever haemorrhaging vast sums, with nothing coming in without facing bankruptcy.

korean footy  being added this week - along with our belarus friends and nicaragua who needs our spoilt fragile epl players to bet on anymore

more i read, more i think pro football in this country isn't happening anytime soon.

With pushkins beloved Southampton being only 7 points away from the relegation zone I would think that he would be all in favour of voiding the season...

when the furlough scheme ends (end of May perhaps?) and the govt stops paying people to sit at home I imagine the debate will be a lot different

May 5, 2020 -- 5:45PM, TheBetterBettor wrote:

With pushkins beloved Southampton being only 7 points away from the relegation zone I would think that he would be all in favour of voiding the season...

Rinse and repeat for the benefit of United trolls on here who are more than a bit dim, have very poor memories and are encumbered by severe learning difficulties.

U know who u are, but this obviously includes patrick starr and thebitterbighter.


It was great fun and a lorra laughs, pretending to be a saints fan for a couple of months almost 8 years ago now!

In virtually every post defending Liverpool, Liverpudlian's and LFC from attacks by some of the most notorious bigoted trolls on the forum, including pbk, wetbender, ratkins and thebitterbighter.

I loved every moment of that two months when I was on here, taking those United and Chelsea bigoted trolls to task and holding them to account.

I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Someone with half a brain should easily have quickly rumbled my little game, targeting Chelsea and United bigoted trolls while all the time defending Liverpool!!!!!!

Something well beyond the halfwits pbk, wetbender, ratkins and thebitterbighter.

Agreed Rothko.

At some point the prima donnas on £100'sk per week cant keep sucking money out of the game indefinitely while sitting on their hands. It's as much a problem at my clug as the other so called 'big teams'.

Chickens coming home to roost springs to mind, especially for those on mega bucks, such as pogba, feigning injuries while all the tim trying to engineer a big money move away.

Bundesliga keeping all club tests secret. Talk about a stitch up. No wonder players are worried. 10 positive tests so far but the re-start carries on regardless.

Mammon 1 Morality 0

Talk of nine-a-side, 30 minutes per half, unlimited subs...Time to put a stop to this fantasy circus....and end all this madness

It won't be long before someone suggests tossing a coin or rock, scissors, paper.

Absolute shambles. Trust the footy authorities to make a bad situation even worse!

what will they do if they don't find a vaccine - sit at home forever .
There are plenty of viruses that they have been looking for a vaccine for years

If thats the case we will just alter our behaviour and learn to live with it

we have belarus, turk, nicaragua  and now  korean league  -  who needs the primas  ha ha??