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25 Oct 19 15:47
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Ok, Ok,  I have been asked by 4 or 5 now "Where's the old GTFI's tips for booms,  so,  it's time to get serious and stop pr4atting aorund with giving Mega tips designed to lose :)  to keep in line with him
THIS THREAD is for BOOMS and the occasional home/away win,  90%+ however will be for booms

LET ME STATE THIS though !!!  I am here to give my selections for booms,  how i get those selections etc will stay with me,  sorry.   
ALSO,  I dont pick the odds,  so if sh1t odds,  blame the bookie or the punters driving the odds down,  they obviously just agree with me that it's going to be a good game for booms
 
NOT ALL games will be on bf as basically,  theyre getting worse for game coverage - they will however be available on 365 or bf for me to post them.

If you follow them,  great,  if not,  that's fine of course.

Let's keep this positive and moving forward without all te usual BS that the forum has to offer in plenty of other threads,
So all i ask,  be kind to each other,  if you want to be after-tmers,  that's ok,  just do it in one of MEGAMUGS threads not mine :)
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Report mega88 October 26, 2019 5:23 PM BST
Worry about ur own $$
Report mega88 October 26, 2019 5:24 PM BST
Haha giving up before this evening games it's gonna be HUGE !!
Report sofaking October 26, 2019 5:25 PM BST
Chelsea to win. 1-2 FT imo. Silly   Post some tips mega.  Stop aftertiming. Wink
Report GTFI October 26, 2019 5:26 PM BST

Oct 26, 2019 -- 5:24PM, mega88 wrote:


Haha giving up before this evening games it's gonna be HUGE !!


where,  WHERE did i say i had given up,  and WHERE WHERE is your appology for the no winning freds when i have linked a 1k per month winning fred that you mocked so i said "feck this" ???

Report GTFI October 26, 2019 5:27 PM BST
https://community.betfair.com/football/go/thread/view/94070/30750007/can-the-forum-work-as-one-to-show-its-possible-to-make-a-living-on-bf#flvWelcomeHeader

go on Mega,  read it and explain where it failed?..........
Report GTFI October 26, 2019 5:28 PM BST
Start bank £100.00 New
Date Time League Game Bet type Odds Stake W/L Profit Bank
25/10/2019 18:30 Germany Oberliga NOFV Nord TeBe Berlin v  Hertha 06 Charlottenburg Over 2.5 1.6 £10.00 W £6.00 £106.00
25/10/2019 19:00 PL2 Norwich U23s v West Ham Utd U23s Over 2.5 1.3 £10.00 W £3.00 £109.00
25/10/2019 19:30 Belgium Super League Women Gent Women v  OH Leuven Women Over 2.5 1.4 £10.00 W £4.00 £113.00
26/10/2019 12:00 Fi3 KuFu-98 v JBK Pietarsaari Over 2.5 1.25 £10.00 W £2.50 £115.50
26/10/2019 13:00 PL2 Wolves U23s v Tottenham U23s Over 2.5 1.47 £10.00 W £4.70 £120.20
26/10/2019 16:30 PL2 Man City U23s v Arsenal U23s Over 2.5 1.33 £10.00 - - -
26/10/2019 17:30 No2 Aalesund FK v IK Start Over 1.5 1.2 £10.00 - - -
00:00 £10.00 - - -


1-1 HT  and KO in 3 mins time... then i have better things to do with my evening Wink
Report OnePercenter October 26, 2019 5:54 PM BST
GTFI, I am following this thread with great interest. I am amazed at some of the leagues you research. Great stuff.
Report mega88 October 26, 2019 6:15 PM BST

Oct 26, 2019 -- 5:54PM, OnePercenter wrote:


GTFI, I am following this thread with great interest. I am amazed at some of the leagues you research. Great stuff.


Lol it's based on h2h and is very shallow as you'll see in a week or so, previous booms means nothing, there's no depth to this analysis, no disrespect to gtfi but until I see a good run over 6 months it all really means horse S@#t

Report mega88 October 26, 2019 6:27 PM BST
And there you go, first loss that now wipes out the last 4 winning bets. (Dont forget ya commission) taking overs at 1.33 just asking for trouble. The key to successful long term profit is correct money management coupled with in play bets taking decent odds while watching the game unfold. Throwing darts at silly odds pre match will always slap you in the face. Carry in gtfi don't mind me
Report mega88 October 26, 2019 6:29 PM BST
Aalesund are now 2.08 compared to gtfi 1.33, now is the time for a dabble if you're think it will come in .....
Report GTFI October 26, 2019 6:32 PM BST

Oct 26, 2019 -- 6:27PM, mega88 wrote:


And there you go, first loss that now wipes out the last 4 winning bets. (Dont forget ya commission) taking overs at 1.33 just asking for trouble. The key to successful long term profit is correct money management coupled with in play bets taking decent odds while watching the game unfold. Throwing darts at silly odds pre match will always slap you in the face. Carry in gtfi don't mind me


dont forget commission?  cant you read?  Im quoting the LOWEST odds of 365 with no commision lmao,   bf odds are much higher ... tut tut.

Report mega88 October 26, 2019 6:37 PM BST

Oct 26, 2019 -- 6:32PM, GTFI wrote:


Oct 26, 2019 --  6:27PM, mega88 wrote:And there you go, first loss that now wipes out the last 4 winning bets. (Dont forget ya commission) taking overs at 1.33 just asking for trouble. The key to successful long term profit is correct money management coupled with in play bets taking decent odds while watching the game unfold. Throwing darts at silly odds pre match will always slap you in the face. Carry in gtfi don't mind medont forget commission?  cant you read?  Im quoting the LOWEST odds of 365 with no commision lmao,   bf odds are much higher ... tut tut.


Even worse then if you're taking lower odds, it's all pretty regardless anyway. Carry on I'm going to get some popcorn, sweet and salty

Report OnePercenter October 26, 2019 6:44 PM BST
muga you want to see GTFI's results over 6 months

Have any of your own tipping threads lasted a single day?
Report mega88 October 26, 2019 6:46 PM BST
Has yours ExcitedLaugh mane to score for the last 6weeks Laugh
Report mega88 October 26, 2019 6:47 PM BST
If aalesunds lose this bet then all profit wiped out
Report OnePercenter October 26, 2019 6:58 PM BST
When you have to lie to make a point you really should step away from the keyboard.
Report mega88 October 26, 2019 7:16 PM BST

Oct 26, 2019 -- 6:58PM, OnePercenter wrote:


When you have to lie to make a point you really should step away from the keyboard.


Ditto....ExcitedCrazyCrazy

Report mega88 October 26, 2019 7:17 PM BST
C'mon gtfi I'm your biggest fan really ExcitedCool
Report mega88 October 26, 2019 7:17 PM BST
We go back years, we was booming it up in the naughties
Report GTFI October 27, 2019 12:42 AM BST
Start bank £100.00 New
Date Time League Game Bet type Odds Stake W/L Profit Bank
25/10/2019 18:30 Germany Oberliga NOFV Nord TeBe Berlin v  Hertha 06 Charlottenburg Over 2.5 1.6 £10.00 W £6.00 £106.00
25/10/2019 19:00 PL2 Norwich U23s v West Ham Utd U23s Over 2.5 1.3 £10.00 W £3.00 £109.00
25/10/2019 19:30 Belgium Super League Women Gent Women v  OH Leuven Women Over 2.5 1.4 £10.00 W £4.00 £113.00
26/10/2019 12:00 Fi3 KuFu-98 v JBK Pietarsaari Over 2.5 1.25 £10.00 W £2.50 £115.50
26/10/2019 13:00 PL2 Wolves U23s v Tottenham U23s Over 2.5 1.47 £10.00 W £4.70 £120.20
26/10/2019 16:30 PL2 Man City U23s v Arsenal U23s Over 2.5 1.33 £10.00 L -£10.00 £110.20
26/10/2019 17:30 No2 Aalesund FK v IK Start Over 1.5 1.2 £10.00 W £2.00 £112.20
00:00 £10.00 - - -
Report GTFI October 27, 2019 12:44 AM BST

Oct 26, 2019 -- 7:17PM, mega88 wrote:


We go back years, we was booming it up in the naughties


WE were booming it up in the naughties,  correct  -  What a apity it's only been ME BOOMING it up for THIS Decade huh... hahahaha...  nuff said dont you think

Report GTFI October 27, 2019 11:06 AM GMT
Start bank £100.00 New
Date Time League Game Bet type Odds Stake W/L Profit Bank
25/10/2019 18:30 Germany Oberliga NOFV Nord TeBe Berlin v  Hertha 06 Charlottenburg Over 2.5 1.6 £10.00 W £6.00 £106.00
25/10/2019 19:00 PL2 Norwich U23s v West Ham Utd U23s Over 2.5 1.3 £10.00 W £3.00 £109.00
25/10/2019 19:30 Belgium Super League Women Gent Women v  OH Leuven Women Over 2.5 1.4 £10.00 W £4.00 £113.00
26/10/2019 12:00 Fi3 KuFu-98 v JBK Pietarsaari Over 2.5 1.25 £10.00 W £2.50 £115.50
26/10/2019 13:00 PL2 Wolves U23s v Tottenham U23s Over 2.5 1.47 £10.00 W £4.70 £120.20
26/10/2019 16:30 PL2 Man City U23s v Arsenal U23s Over 2.5 1.33 £10.00 L -£10.00 £110.20
26/10/2019 17:30 No2 Aalesund FK v IK Start Over 1.5 1.2 £10.00 W £2.00 £112.20
27/10/2019 14:30 Sk2 Slavoj Trebisov v MFK Dubnica Over 2.5 1.53 £10.00 - - -
27/10/2019 15:00 Se3 Rynninge IK v Bodens BK Over 2.5 1.4 £10.00 - - -
00:00 £10.00 - - -
Report nomiskroy October 27, 2019 2:17 PM GMT
OnePercenter.

Take care my friend.

You seem to have identified one chump on this thread already (correctly in my opinion).
But don't get taken in by the other chump, with which you would appear to have already sided with.

Without committing, let things ride a bit. Cream floats to the top. But also some turds float as well, before eventually sinking.

However, some turds float, then sink, then feck me, reappear again some time later.
Report mega88 October 27, 2019 2:33 PM GMT
Who's this tool^Laugh don't talk about gtfi like a turd thank you very much !
Report mega88 October 27, 2019 2:38 PM GMT
Gtfi sort the timings out rynninge kicked off at 14:00 not 15:00
Report GTFI October 27, 2019 4:57 PM GMT
Start bank £100.00 New
Date Time League Game Bet type Odds Stake W/L Profit Bank
25/10/2019 18:30 Germany Oberliga NOFV Nord TeBe Berlin v  Hertha 06 Charlottenburg Over 2.5 1.6 £10.00 W £6.00 £106.00
25/10/2019 19:00 PL2 Norwich U23s v West Ham Utd U23s Over 2.5 1.3 £10.00 W £3.00 £109.00
25/10/2019 19:30 Belgium Super League Women Gent Women v  OH Leuven Women Over 2.5 1.4 £10.00 W £4.00 £113.00
26/10/2019 12:00 Fi3 KuFu-98 v JBK Pietarsaari Over 2.5 1.25 £10.00 W £2.50 £115.50
26/10/2019 13:00 PL2 Wolves U23s v Tottenham U23s Over 2.5 1.47 £10.00 W £4.70 £120.20
26/10/2019 16:30 PL2 Man City U23s v Arsenal U23s Over 2.5 1.33 £10.00 L -£10.00 £110.20
26/10/2019 17:30 No2 Aalesund FK v IK Start Over 1.5 1.2 £10.00 W £2.00 £112.20
27/10/2019 14:30 Sk2 Slavoj Trebisov v MFK Dubnica Over 2.5 1.53 £10.00 L -£10.00 £102.20
27/10/2019 15:00 Se3 Rynninge IK v Bodens BK Over 2.5 1.4 £10.00 W £4.00 £106.20
27/10/2019 21:30 Ec1 Barcelona SC v Tecnico U. Over 2.5 1.53 £10.00 - - -
27/10/2019 22:00 Brazil A Flamengo v CSA Over 2.5 1.4 £10.00 - - -
00:00 £10.00 - - -
Report GTFI October 27, 2019 8:46 PM GMT
Pour your pint,  make a brew,  grab the pringles or kebab    - theyre getting closer :)
Report wolf3011 October 27, 2019 9:01 PM GMT
The profits aren't taking into account commission
Report GTFI October 27, 2019 9:05 PM GMT

Oct 27, 2019 -- 10:01PM, wolf3011 wrote:


The profits aren't taking into account commission


That's because if you read from beginning they are LOW odds of 365 so no1 can argue the odds,   no commission on 365,  however,  bf odds are far higher so profits are higher even after commission

Report wolf3011 October 27, 2019 9:07 PM GMT
I see, well good luck making a profit doing that then.
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 7:14 AM GMT
Where's gtfi ? This needs updating and we need todays tips.....
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 7:16 AM GMT
Start bank - £100, Current bank after 11 bets - £86.20.
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 7:20 AM GMT

Oct 26, 2019 -- 5:54PM, OnePercenter wrote:


GTFI, I am following this thread with great interest. I am amazed at some of the leagues you research. Great stuff.


Are you still amazed ?? Like I said before I've seen this time and time again way before you were on here. Still, I want to see gtfi do well and I hope he comes back, I don't like how he abandones his Fred's!

Report mega88 October 28, 2019 7:27 AM GMT
I stand by what I say, taking small odds on goals prematch is suicidal...because they are "expected" leads only to the poor house. It's actually obvious when you think about it. You HAVE TO TAKE VALUE!! bet in-play when odds are more juicy. Look at aalesunds.... Ht 0-0 you took odds of 1.2!! Ht odds had increased to 2.01 on here. Ft 3 goals had been scored........ PROVE ME WRONG AND I HOPE YOU DO..... Wish you all the best gtfi
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 8:14 AM GMT
Ok ok I'll get you back to winning ways..... NEA SALAMIS V APOEL O1.5.  stick that in ya table I'll give it you for free.
Report OnePercenter October 28, 2019 11:39 AM GMT
I don't like how he abandones his Fred's!

Says the stater of numerous abandoned tipping threads
Report wolf3011 October 28, 2019 11:54 AM GMT

Oct 28, 2019 -- 8:27AM, mega88 wrote:


I stand by what I say, taking small odds on goals prematch is suicidal...because they are "expected" leads only to the poor house. It's actually obvious when you think about it. You HAVE TO TAKE VALUE!! bet in-play when odds are more juicy. Look at aalesunds.... Ht 0-0 you took odds of 1.2!! Ht odds had increased to 2.01 on here. Ft 3 goals had been scored........ PROVE ME WRONG AND I HOPE YOU DO..... Wish you all the best gtfi


This is just silly, the odds increase at HT if its 0-0 for obvious reasons .. the chances of overs has dramatically increased ffs as half the game has gone, it doesn't mean anyone backing it has any kind of edge. If a team goes behind , the match odds increase.. it doesn't make it " value". The idea anyone can make money long term simply backing goals on two teams that have a high goals scored for column in the league table shouting boom boom boom like a demented basil brush is just childish and quite sad. There is no skill to it, no logic to it, no edge at all and doomed to fail like every other goals thread from any poster that has ever appeared on betfair. All the best with this silliness, I suppose it provides comedy value.

Report mega88 October 28, 2019 12:56 PM GMT

Oct 28, 2019 -- 12:54PM, wolf3011 wrote:


Oct 28, 2019 --  8:27AM, mega88 wrote:I stand by what I say, taking small odds on goals prematch is suicidal...because they are "expected" leads only to the poor house. It's actually obvious when you think about it. You HAVE TO TAKE VALUE!! bet in-play when odds are more juicy. Look at aalesunds.... Ht 0-0 you took odds of 1.2!! Ht odds had increased to 2.01 on here. Ft 3 goals had been scored........ PROVE ME WRONG AND I HOPE YOU DO..... Wish you all the best gtfiThis is just silly, the odds increase at HT if its 0-0 for obvious reasons .. the chances of overs has dramatically increased ffs as half the game has gone, it doesn't mean anyone backing it has any kind of edge. If a team goes behind , the match odds increase.. it doesn't make it " value". The idea anyone can make money long term simply backing goals on two teams that have a high goals scored for column in the league table shouting boom boom boom like a demented basil brush is just childish and quite sad. There is no skill to it, no logic to it, no edge at all and doomed to fail like every other goals thread from any poster that has ever appeared on betfair. All the best with this silliness, I suppose it provides comedy value.


Yes we know how an exchange works thanks, it's pretty mechanical in it's nature. Unfortunately dumbpercenter and gtfi really don't understand the concept of "true value" so I say value for them as it tickles their sensory receptors and makes them feel good. True value is a different beast as we know. When you are dealing with neanderthals then a primitive language is needed. As regards to making money backing goals goes, I disagree. It can be done with a true understanding of money management but only a select few Grace those peaks! Most who post on here are disgruntled losers long term. I agree there is no skill, logic, edge etc as I've always said... Success lies in how you handle your money, something that no football side or gambling site have any control of, but we are dealing here with folks that can't even control their bladders.

Report OnePercenter October 28, 2019 1:01 PM GMT
My Nice & Easy thread has been in profit from Day 1.

I take a fairly simple attitude to value. imho all winners are value and all losing bets poor value. That's always worked for me

HTH
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 1:05 PM GMT

Oct 28, 2019 -- 2:01PM, OnePercenter wrote:


My Nice & Easy thread has been in profit from Day 1.I take a fairly simple attitude to value. imho all winners are value and all losing bets poor value. That's always worked for meHTH


Unless you're dealing with large sums of money then you'll be dead before you reach any decent amount, you bet once a month. But if that floats your boat then so be it. You will also hit bad runs making it tenfold worse for you as you've invested so much time into so few bets. There is no right or wrong, do what you want. If it's working then there you go.

Report mega88 October 28, 2019 1:05 PM GMT
It's obviously a bit of pin mo
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 1:06 PM GMT
It's obviously a bit of pocket money to you anyways, so it doesn't matter.
Report OnePercenter October 28, 2019 1:18 PM GMT
I bet when I see an opportunity to make money.

I don't need to bet, I've no complulsion.
Report OnePercenter October 28, 2019 1:21 PM GMT
Btw, it matters. I am the world's worst loser.
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 1:22 PM GMT

Oct 28, 2019 -- 2:18PM, OnePercenter wrote:


I bet when I see an opportunity to make money.I don't need to bet, I've no complulsion.


Probably the best way to be then. That or don't bet at all.

Report wolf3011 October 28, 2019 1:48 PM GMT

Oct 28, 2019 -- 2:01PM, OnePercenter wrote:


My Nice & Easy thread has been in profit from Day 1.I take a fairly simple attitude to value. imho all winners are value and all losing bets poor value. That's always worked for meHTH


Plenty of losing bets are value when placed and plenty of winning bets that lose are value. The concept of value is whether the odds represent the true outcome of it happening and betting accordingly, not just if it wins or loses. If man city were evens to beat wolves a few weeks back pre kick off , its still value regardless of the result and a 1.4 bet that comes which should have been 1.6 isnt value despite winning which will causes losses long term. The threads which are in profit normally have a tiny amount of bets on- none stand up to the passage of time as there is no value to any bet

Report mega88 October 28, 2019 1:54 PM GMT

Oct 28, 2019 -- 2:48PM, wolf3011 wrote:


Oct 28, 2019 --  2:01PM, OnePercenter wrote:My Nice & Easy thread has been in profit from Day 1.I take a fairly simple attitude to value. imho all winners are value and all losing bets poor value. That's always worked for meHTHPlenty of losing bets are value when placed and plenty of winning bets that lose are value. The concept of value is whether the odds represent the true outcome of it happening and betting accordingly, not just if it wins or loses. If man city were evens to beat wolves a few weeks back pre kick off , its still value regardless of the result and a 1.4 bet that comes which should have been 1.6 isnt value despite winning which will causes losses long term. The threads which are in profit normally have a tiny amount of bets on- none stand up to the passage of time as there is no value to any bet


That only stands up if one value bet is proceeded by another value bet ad infinitum. Otherwise it's a waste of time.

Report wolf3011 October 28, 2019 1:56 PM GMT
That's right , it's never ending. It's best to look at blocks of 100 bets and analyse them instead of tiny numbers. If you can find value in 60-70 by the laws of averages you are likely to be in profit
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 2:00 PM GMT
That's beyond me, I'll stay a mug.
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 2:23 PM GMT
C'mon gtfi where are ya?
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 8:36 PM GMT

Oct 27, 2019 -- 9:46PM, GTFI wrote:


Pour your pint,

Report mega88 October 28, 2019 8:36 PM GMT
Where are you gtfi? Either carry on or end the Fred like a man...
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 8:37 PM GMT
See I told you he does a runner when it goes tits up, this is about the 7 the Fred he's done a runner from.... We will see him in 6 months time he'll be back, he always is Excited
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 8:44 PM GMT

Oct 28, 2019 -- 9:14AM, mega88 wrote:


Ok ok I'll get you back to winning ways..... NEA SALAMIS V APOEL O1.5.  stick that in ya table I'll give it you for free.


Add that as bet 12, you're back to winning waysExcitedCool don't say I don't give you anything!!

Report wolf3011 October 28, 2019 8:52 PM GMT
There's a tasty treat for lovers of the beautiful game at 9:10 Temperley vs Deportivo Moron in ARGENTINA. As the thread is in chase mode plough everything you own into the morons @ 4... couldnt be any worse than what we have seen so far
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 8:53 PM GMT
Cheers wolfy will check it out
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 9:56 PM GMT
1_0 temperley..... You taking a slice of 12s on morons ?
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 10:39 PM GMT
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 10:40 PM GMT
Show ya face gtfi .......
Report wolf3011 October 28, 2019 10:59 PM GMT
no mega , I wouldnt back the morons with stolen money ( the clue is in the name)
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 11:00 PM GMT
2_0 tempers....
Report wolf3011 October 28, 2019 11:02 PM GMT
It was meant as a joke , you didnt back them surely
Report wolf3011 October 28, 2019 11:03 PM GMT
In the spirit of tipping Il give you a tip to claim back some of your moron losses
Report wolf3011 October 28, 2019 11:08 PM GMT
Lay CA Atlanta in the midnight game for around 2.8 (argentina B) and never back a team called moron again
Report mega88 October 28, 2019 11:26 PM GMT
I don't bet match odds, I took 1.16 for one boom.
Report wolf3011 October 28, 2019 11:28 PM GMT
course you did ... anyway on that note
Report mega88 October 29, 2019 10:58 AM GMT
Gtfi you there ???
Report gibmark October 29, 2019 11:53 AM GMT
just goes to show , how difficult  to make profits in footie
Report OnePercenter October 29, 2019 12:00 PM GMT
It's not that difficult to make money betting on football. Avoid all meaningless games. Just back real quality teams in form in games they should piss and watch out for the UEFA & FIFA virus.

Oh and never feel like you have to have a bet or that you want an interest bet.
Report gibmark October 29, 2019 12:13 PM GMT
sounds logical , but as we have seen even Man city can lose to highly priced teams , i know your in profit on your thread , well done so far , but a true test is a much bigger sample , as anyone can get a good run together , that proves nothing , so imo i.e , say 200-300 odd bets , you can then with confidence you can show long term profits
Report gibmark October 29, 2019 12:17 PM GMT
byw Onepercenter , i know you like sure things , General Election this year is 1.07 still !
Report OnePercenter October 29, 2019 12:53 PM GMT
Let's see how things pan out with the GE.

Boris is Marmite and he has a way with words that can bite him on the arse.
Report gibmark October 29, 2019 2:29 PM GMT
its obvious how GE will end up , but agree he is doing well atm ..and thats what counts
Report OnePercenter October 29, 2019 3:19 PM GMT
Corbyn will do his world peace, fully funded NHS, Boris = Trump routine for 6 weeks and a lot of people are going to be taken in.

From the moment the bill is passed we are having a GE box in our house. £50 a mention.
Report gibmark October 29, 2019 3:47 PM GMT
wasnt interested in the politics , just the gamble , labour says it will vote today for election , just had a look , i dont understand why , election in 2019 is a massive 1.25
Report wolf3011 October 29, 2019 5:01 PM GMT
It's much more difficult than people think making long term profits but  this place really does seem to be a curse for any bet being posted. People search for the metaphorical holy grail of betting, if one was to lay every back bet and back every lay "tip" on the forum , I'd imagine the money would come rolling in- if you have a substantial amount on anything best to avoid the forum Grin.

There was an overs run of tips posted afew weeks ago which all failed to come in and the cumulative odds of that happening were around 3000-1 with the last one 30 minutes away from reaching 25000-1 with a string of 0-0s. I've not seen any thread make profits long term bar one on the horse racing forum where someone was apparently getting odds well below the SP when laying or higher when backing fooling people the losses were less than they actually were.
Report gibmark October 29, 2019 5:56 PM GMT
lol ..its the forum curse Happy , there have been a couple of profitable threads i ve seen here , but i take you point , some are worth laying
Report mega88 October 29, 2019 9:51 PM GMT
?
Report wolf3011 October 29, 2019 11:09 PM GMT

Oct 29, 2019 -- 6:56PM, gibmark wrote:


lol ..its the forum curse  , there have been a couple of profitable threads i ve seen here , but i take you point , some are worth laying


Show me a thread with a decent size of bets that are in profit

Report gibmark October 30, 2019 10:23 AM GMT
300 bet challenge , march -july 2018 £10 to £750 withdrawn , Oct--March £10- £2000 withdrawn , & also another one same period £10-£1000 withdrawn by Belper
Report gibmark October 30, 2019 10:25 AM GMT
size of bets were just over 1000 bets in period
Report wolf3011 October 30, 2019 12:10 PM GMT
10 -750 is a bit vague and how many were "cash outs/ greening up ". I was posting /reading this forum last year and never saw evidence of continual profits on any thread. I remember someone had around 6 bets and were in profit with you congratulating them ( maybe it wasn't you but a similar name) on a thread before it became obvious it had no edge at all. I stand by my claim that not a single poster on here has posted evidence of having any edge of betting over a reasonable size of bets since the site opened over 15 years ago. The people make money through automated software primarily and trading
Report wolf3011 October 30, 2019 12:14 PM GMT
Incidentally if Belper was making these sums, I highly doubt he would be greening out of a bet for £1.81 as he was last week somehow in the early hours.
Report gibmark October 30, 2019 12:34 PM GMT
wolf you asked a question , so i answered it , didnt want to argue ,
its a £10 start thread , so hard getting going , there was lots of greening up on the bets , yes , but all details were posted , if you can be bothered to look at thread , its all there , i know its a very long thread , but you can take my word , £750 was won , Belper was betting on very low prices and did green a lot too , but made a £1000 profit from £10 , and the other one i mentioned started about lat sept , early oct , £10 start , got to about £3000 , and cashed out in march for about £2200 from memory , no secret system , no holy grail , or mathematical edge ..wasnt meant to prove a edge was just a bit of fun . tool about 1000+ bets , so fair sample i think
Report wolf3011 October 30, 2019 12:40 PM GMT
It isn't a dig at this guy , at least him and GTFI give it a go which is what it's all about but if a punter managed to turn £10 into £3000 then logically he would use larger sums to make living from this site. Why would anyone bother havings such an edge cashing out for £1.81 with a stake of less than £30?
Report gibmark October 30, 2019 12:53 PM GMT
£3000 in 5-6 months isnt enough to give the day job up and go pro , and i admit if you were good enough to be pro , you wouldnt need to post it on here , to answer why it wasnt scaled up was because staking was the main angle to strategy , 5% of bank was max stake on any bet , so £1000 bank is £50 max bet , so takes a while to snowball , ..really hard starting with £10 , as for Belper thats how he got to £1500 form a tenner , he lost £500 on a 1.02 shot , so cashed out a £1000 , and started again , his strategy to turn £30 into £33 , then £36 , then £40 etc , check out www.compoundaily.com
Report gibmark October 30, 2019 12:58 PM GMT
as  for GTFI , he is atm boom and bust , he is young and the rhetoric and provado doesnt help him as attracts knockers , but like i said i put this down to his age , he has nt a full proof system , but i have seen him do really well sometimes , imo its his staking ,that lets him down , point is imo with ptoper staking and discipline he has potential
Report gibmark October 30, 2019 1:06 PM GMT
level stake betting is almost impossible to show long term profits
Report gibmark October 30, 2019 1:09 PM GMT
re reading your messages , Belper wasnt the one who got to £3000
Report wolf3011 October 30, 2019 1:09 PM GMT

Oct 30, 2019 -- 1:53PM, gibmark wrote:


£3000 in 5-6 months isnt enough to give the day job up and go pro , and i admit if you were good enough to be pro , you wouldnt need to post it on here , to answer why it wasnt scaled up was because staking was the main angle to strategy , 5% of bank was max stake on any bet , so £1000 bank is £50 max bet , so takes a while to snowball , ..really hard starting with £10 , as for Belper thats how he got to £1500 form a tenner , he lost £500 on a 1.02 shot , so cashed out a £1000 , and started again , his strategy to turn £30 into £33 , then £36 , then £40 etc , check out www.compoundaily.com


I think any sensible person would use only a fraction of their bank as this guy has apparently done , but why not start with £1000- £5000 instead of £10 which would mean any comparable success would generate significant returns enabling him to do it on a full time basis.

The problem with backing 1.02 shots is obviously you can go months getting wins as statistically one will only lose every blue moon even with no edge at all, but if the £500 he lost on a 1.02 shot you mentioned comes in a couple of times in short succession, it wipes you out. I've seen a team go out to 1000 on here before now and get 3 late goals to end up winning which would mean hypothetically you could lay a team at 1000 every day for 3 years and realistically expect to profit everyday even with a scattergun approach betting blind. Schalke had a similar thing 2 years ago with his backing of tiny odds building a bank up and in one day it was wiped out with 3 long shots romping home.

Report gibmark October 30, 2019 1:13 PM GMT
i agree betting £500 with £1500 was dangerous , and say at the tome , overstaking is a probably the most common error for most punters
Report wolf3011 October 30, 2019 1:15 PM GMT
With regards to it being impossible to profit with level stakes, if the bets don't succeed on their own value , they won't succeed with any staking plan long term. Most staking plans are variants of the doomed martingale system relying on these long shots not having success over a short period of time. Stakes can prolong the success of any betting but ultimately it comes down to if the bets themselves are good enough- in any event GTFI shouldn't be embarrassed as at least it contributes to the forum instead of the endless daft pictures on other threads
Report gibmark October 30, 2019 1:17 PM GMT
i can tell you starting with £1000-£5000 wasnt done , ..as making a profit wasnt known before he started   , so it was a challenge to see if he could do it , if he could do it then it didnt matter where you started from , i.e. if it was going to work then it would build up big enough to win bigger , but i=f it didnt then only a tenner lost not a £1000
Report gibmark October 30, 2019 1:19 PM GMT

Oct 30, 2019 -- 2:15PM, wolf3011 wrote:


With regards to it being impossible to profit with level stakes, if the bets don't succeed on their own value , they won't succeed with any staking plan long term. Most staking plans are variants of the doomed martingale system relying on these long shots not having success over a short period of time. Stakes can prolong the success of any betting but ultimately it comes down to if the bets themselves are good enough- in any event GTFI shouldn't be embarrassed as at least it contributes to the forum instead of the endless daft pictures on other threads


yes of course , its all about picking winning bets Happy

Report OnePercenter October 30, 2019 5:57 PM GMT
Exactly
Report mega88 October 31, 2019 6:03 PM GMT
Any sign yet ?
Report mega88 October 31, 2019 6:04 PM GMT
He'll be back in a few months Excited
Report mega88 November 1, 2019 3:07 PM GMT
He's back now..... Just waiting for a response... Spotted on another Fred...
Report G Hall November 1, 2019 3:55 PM GMT
He's not back mega the post on the other dred was 26th october.

He usually disappears for a while after a losing bet,which is why we hardly ever see him on here.
Report mega88 November 1, 2019 8:30 PM GMT

Nov 1, 2019 -- 4:55PM, G Hall wrote:


He's not back mega the post on the other dred was 26th october.He usually disappears for a while after a losing bet,which is why we hardly ever see him on here.


Thanks G Hall, I'm done with him. He can cry in his tent all alone. This Fred could have been great if he had stuck with it. A few losses means nothing, it's to be expected. Going to concentrate on my own system now. All the best to those peeps who were invested in this Fred...

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