***The Spurs Files 3***

Vitess

Vitesse absolutely dominant here. 3-3 incoming.

Spurs struggled to keep the ball with 11 men, a player less and physically slower and unfit compared to opponent this must feel like 11 v 8

N'Dombele looks tired running on to the pitch

Can Someone tell Hoijberg he isn't a CB

If this is life under Conte - it is going to be drama after drab

Lo Celso Should get double figures goals a season, it could be a case of that he doesn't get enough game time, but more likely he is another in a long line of players who over complicates the simple things!!

Well that was way more difficult that it should've been after going 3-0 up.

I don't rate Lo Celso; a few flashes here and there, but seldom the booms

bring back Nuno

problem is Sofa, they all drop the intensity at the same time, that's when you need leaders on the pitch. Lloris captain of France isn't captain Spurs need, he can get away with being a mute captain for France, he has the most talented bunch of footballers around him. Spurs need a leader outfield who can be heard.

several times in defence they was all on top of each other, covering the same space. That is communication!! Eric Dier is a nice guy, but doesn't dominate. Ben Davies doesn't command respect of his fellow pro's. Sanchez doesnt know the time of day and Romero I don't think speaks the same language. Hoijberg is he a leader to set example? All The Best teams has captain that leads out on pitch.

Spurs hasnt got one player on that pitch who demands respect of his team mates, organizes and leads by example when they need it.

Declan Rice does it for West Ham, Henderson or Van Djyk does it for Liverpool and that bang average rightside CB for Chelsea does it, which means he has a place in that chelsea side!! Dias and Fernadinho does and did it for City. Where is that leader at Spurs. There isnt one, its all to soft an nice. Conte needs a captain and leaders!!

The Spine is to nice.........Need winners to go with talent, we've become Arsenal - more worried about image then substance

Nov 4, 2021 -- 5:02PM, Capt__F wrote:

bring back Nuno

I agree but let's see how the new guy does against Everton on Sunday in a real competition before getting rid of him.

Nov 4, 2021 -- 5:05PM, BULLET TOOTH TONY wrote:

problem is Sofa, they all drop the intensity at the same time, that's when you need leaders on the pitch. Lloris captain of France isn't captain Spurs need, he can get away with being a mute captain for France, he has the most talented bunch of footballers around him. Spurs need a leader outfield who can be heard.several times in defence they was all on top of each other, covering the same space. That is communication!! Eric Dier is a nice guy, but doesn't dominate. Ben Davies doesn't command respect of his fellow pro's. Sanchez doesnt know the time of day and Romero I don't think speaks the same language. Hoijberg is he a leader to set example? All The Best teams has captain that leads out on pitch. Spurs hasnt got one player on that pitch who demands respect of his team mates, organizes and leads by example when they need it. Declan Rice does it for West Ham, Henderson or Van Djyk does it for Liverpool and that bang average rightside CB for Chelsea does it, which means he has a place in that chelsea side!! Dias and Fernadinho does and did it for City. Where is that leader at Spurs. There isnt one, its all to soft an nice. Conte needs a captain and leaders!!The Spine is to nice.........Need winners to go with talent, we've become Arsenal - more worried about image then substance

Yeah, I'd definitely agree with this. Hojbjerg the closest they currently have to being a leader but I don't think he's the solution either.

At Least Conte has identified that the wingback are just that and not back four defenders that dear old Nuno thought they was. I'm optimistic

Having been totally correct that Nuno was the wrong man for the job, I am more optimistic this time around.

This guy will give it his all, will not take any carp from the players and will be demanding of the chairman.

My only slight reservation is that we have appointed Chavski rejects before, none of which have worked.

This guy must be given 100% support by us fans, the players and the board for the next 2 transfer windows, and let's see where we are in 12 months time ?

COYS

Some years ago my company put up a weekend in Monaco to be auctioned off for the benefit of Chris Hughton's testimonial. The auction was held at the Dorchester and a couple of weeks later I had to go to a Spurs Monaco match and present the tickets to the 2 supporters who'd bid for the trip, accompanied by Glen Hoddle on the pitch at half time.
After the match, I was chatting to the supporters who were p1ssed of at how badly Spurs had played, I think they lost 3-0, anyway, they were full of hope that the current manager,Terry Venables could win the league with the club. I remember saying that it would take him 30 years to do that, they were absolutely useless and it seems that they're not much better today!

Great game last night for Conte to access... Optimistic here. Top 4 trading at 7.6... we're gonna trade lower than that, I just Know it.... COYS!

By getting in early with Conte it stopped Man U going places.

What's the general consensus amongst Spurs fans regarding Kane? That he will start scoring again? Or that most fans want him gone?

"That bang average right side CB for chelsea"

signed for around 8m and over 300 apps for chelsea, won 2 premier lge titles-1 fa cup-1 efl/lge cup-1 champions lge-2 europa lge-1 super cup-world cup runner up and a current spanish international.

aye he's definitely had a "BANG AVERAGE" career this lad.

Top 4 trading at 7.4... COYS!

Nov 7, 2021 -- 5:45AM, FIGJAM wrote:

By getting in early with Conte it stopped Man U going places.

Apparently, Conte was never considered for the Man U job.

His combustibility is a concern - only lasted 2 years at Chelski for that reason - they couldn't wait to get shot of him.

But, perhaps he may have learned & mellowed?

What's the general consensus amongst Spurs fans regarding Kane? That he will start scoring again? Or that most fans want him gone?

Whip-Pic, I've wanted him gone since the European Champions League Final after he insisted he was fit, was chosen and then was invisible for the whole game. Poch made a Big Mistake. By playing Kane he broke-up a winning team and destroyed morale.

A forward needs service and he has none. Doesn't matter how many runs he makes. His confidence is not there at the moment. Skip and Hjobjerg are completely negative. Sideways, backwards, five yard wall passes. Looked so much better without the ball against Everton but in possession the midfield are ten yards too far back to have any affect on their attacks. It would help if they didn't stand behind opponents and moved about a bit.A lot of work needed in midfield and some new additions.

We’ve got £120,000,000 of players we can't sell and have done our pieces on.
Sanchez, NDombele and Lo Celso.
I'd like to see how they appear in the books amortisation or no amortisation.
Should make a few quid on Winks, but peanuts compared to those three.

I saw in the paper that Tottenham have been selected as one of five clubs to carry out a trial of 'safe standing'.

The players must have had advance notice of this as they've been conducting that trial for months.

Under Poch we were always top or near the top on distance run in matches. Now we're usually last in that category. First job for Conte is to get the players fit again. They won't be able to deliver on his tactical requirements until they are.

Apparently, we can spend 400 million on transfers under FFP rules.  I don't know how we will be able to spend this much while maintaining loan repayments for our long term debt of 1.5 billion pounds.

Nov 12, 2021 -- 10:02AM, propunter1 wrote:

Apparently, we can spend 400 million on transfers under FFP rules.

Ffs, my post goes missing.  This forum is absolute garbage. Think 400 million is theoretically what they're allowed to spend before breaching FFP rules but in reality they'll only spend a small fraction of that. And the stadium is infrastructure debt and separate from transfer funds.

If you're answering the last post there's no reason to quote it (just saying ), however; if there is a double-space in the post you are quoting then the reply usually doesn't show.

Ha, I know that Aspro but for some reason I continue to quote posts.

Ha Aspro, I know that but for some reason I continue to quote posts here.

Both above posts didn't appear after I posted them. Thirty minutes later they suddenly appear. This forum is broken.

Harry Kane.. 7 goals in 2 games! For England!

Just imagine if Spurs could find someone like that...

Nov 16, 2021 -- 2:12PM, Emitdeb wrote:

Harry Kane.. 7 goals in 2 games! For England!Just imagine if Spurs could find someone like that...

You think San Marino and Albania are comparable to Premier League teams, Emitdeb?

Still 7 goals in 2 games... and he's Englands top goal scorer of all time!

Let's see if can do the business against Leeds at the weekend or will he continue to look like a journeyman plodder as he has done all season so far in the league. You tend to occasionally get carried away Emitdeb.

That's probably true...

but. Class is permanent and he really is pure class.... I have a theory, we can thank Jose for unsettling him. Hopefully we can change his mind, otherwise we're gonna be searching for someone just like him. 

Pushing for a top four position would be a step in the right direction...  COYS!

Romero injured on international duty which is a big blow.

Please sofa, If youre having a laugh could you put joke in brackets at the end of all posts?    (joke)

dunno why i posted that... Sometimes i just need to keep my big fingers still....

What?  You don't think Romero is Spurs' best defender?

Major problems Sunday.
Skippy is banned, Romero definitely out, doubts with Lo Celso and PEH,
so that's the midfield b.gered.
Personally, I'd go with Rodon and NDombele and I suppose reluctantly Winks
must come into the equation.

Emitdeb • November 17, 2021 5:53 AM GMT
Still 7 goals in 2 games... and he's Englands top goal scorer of all time!

Top goalscorer ? Maybe the most prolific but how many times did the great Jimmy Greaves play against the likes of San Marino etc ?

Just looking and can see several 8's and 9's being banged past sh!t teams like Luxembourg, Scotland and Northern Ireland...

Fair enough , Emitdeb , but Greaves was , in most peoples opinion , the best England goalscorer .
One 'worldie' two pens and a scuffer kinda epitomises our current incumbent .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10225051/Mauricio-Pochettino-opens-life-Paris-Saint-Germain-hotseat.html


Daily Mail interviews Pochettino - interesting comments. I hope he comes back soon

Poch'll be back at Spurs at some stage in the future but let's concentrate on the Conte era.  Four shots on target and two goals. Unbelievable scenes, nobody saw this coming.   I would've been happy with just a shot on target today.

Interesting interview and he's still pained by his sacking at Spurs. Apparently he's Man U's top target now.

Seems Contes training methods include the equalvent of
shop to you drop
and MERCY buttons
Not sure how long the players will accept this

I just don't get this thing about Poch. He's not a winner. The End.

Not sure how long the players will accept this

Hopefully we can soon root these players out (whoever they are) and feck them off... all in with this broom.

The biggest problem is Kane. Has he lost his pace or is it confidence? He should have been substituted at half time and he didn't even take the free kick that led to a goal. Phillips made him look really slow. The first half was just as dire as recent games but they did look a bit more interested in the second half.

Sorry to interject lads but I was looking for my old mucker jed. (davidson) for a wee bit of advice RE: Sunday's game against Burnley.


I'm thinking of at bet of approx. 11/10 on Spurs. I think that is fair value giving Burnley have the joint worse record for conceding goals along with Newcastle.

Any thoughts welcome and if you're looking in jed I trust you are well.

tia.

If Spurs can't beat Burnley they are in danger of relegation! That game plus Norwich should enable Conte to experiment a bit and get some confidence back into the team.

I see Spurs are offering 25% of tour experiences
Probably the only time i could get to WHL

Dele and Kane starts
Sounds brassic out there

Conte OUT!

Could try to bring Poch back in before Man U snap him up.

Only upside I can see here is that Conte understands what a hole we're in. This squad needs major surgery.

Last night was one of the all time lows for the club. Kane can only score when given the ball in the penalty area and other Prem league teams are aware of that. Son has not been up to last seasons form so far and apart from them, there are no strikers. The defence is dreadful as the injury time goal showed. I wonder if the could get Phillips from Leeds?

Would love to get Philips but he's a Leeds lad and be very surprised if he moved down south

£££ changes everything.

I think Conte has realised that his squad is far worse than he first thought.  He'll most likely demand a huge transfer war chest in the transfer window. Hopefully Alli never plays for Spurs again as he is completely gone at the game.

Top 4 trading at... 5.4 

Nov 26, 2021 -- 11:00AM, Emitdeb wrote:

Top 4 trading at... 5.4

I don't think you're living in the real world Emitdeb.  What have you seen so far that makes you so blindly optimistic?  If you watched the game last night you'll have noticed that the squad is incredibly weak and needs a massive overhaul.

Just posting a fact sofa... Could have a lovely lay if that's how youre feeling...

Very optimistic we'll be above Leicester and West Ham by January.. Doubt we'll finish above Man U by the end of the season though..

Dunno if there are any match betting on those two...

Might be possible if Conte spends big during the transfer window but there's zero chance of top 4 with the current squad.  Alli, Donkerty, Ndombele, Sanchez etc are all utterly useless.

I hear he has £150 mill this January...

Some brutal honesty from Conte post match.

How do you lot think that'll go down with squad which he's basically said is sh!t? And Levy who'll need a bottomless pit of money to rectify it?

Makes it all the more amusing when Spurs get to the semi final of the Carabao Cup...

West Am are a far better team than Spurs at the moment. Why on earth are you assuming Spurs will win that game?  I think you're delusional when it comes to this team, Emitdeb. A huge percentage of the squad are not good enough for a top six team- Tanganga, Sanchez and Sessegnon are dumb as a bag of rocks. Ndombele and Alli are lazy and unmotivated. Conte will require a total overhaul of the squad and it could lead to conflict with Levy.

It's West Ham... If anyone's delusional, it's them... trust me...

What West Ham have achieved compared to us is commendable. You have to give credit where it is due. West Ham at this moment in time are a better "team" by a long way than us

And regarding Thursdays embarrassment, hopefully the only good thing to come out of it is Conte should now know the identity of the players who should never pull on the shirt again. Starting with Sanchez......

Emitdeb • November 26, 2021 7:14 PM GMT
It's West Ham... If anyone's delusional, it's them... 

Delusional - characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder:

Not sure how you can possibly accuse West Ham supporters of being delusional . We are well aware of what we are , what we are capable of and where we sit in the grand scheme of things . 40 years without a trophy is sufficient evidence to ensure we keep our feet firmly on the ground . Yes , we do cling to the possibility that we may reach a cup final this season , possibly even win one God forbid , but we certainly ain't under any illusions . We've been here before and have become conditioned to failure and disappointment . We are on a good run with a decent group of players but that's about it .
Incidentally the "We are West Ham , we are massive" line is laced with more than a hint of irony . It's a form of self-deprecating humour which is clearly something that you seem to lack . Self-deprecating humour is something you could do with right now . It may serve you well in the coming months .
PS. Can't argue with the 'symptom of mental disorder' bit . COYI

Nov 27, 2021 -- 3:33AM, Lance in France wrote:

And regarding Thursdays embarrassment, hopefully the only good thing to come out of it is Conte should now know the identity of the players who should never pull on the shirt again. Starting with Sanchez......

Yep, Conte will have learnt a lot about his players after Thursday's debacle. In some ways it was probably a positive result for the club and helps Conte  quickly identify where changes are needed. I'd honestly prefer if they go out of this **** competition in the group stages. Even with a strong team they struggle to beat the minnows and there is zero chance of this rabble winning the Europa Conference.

What did you make of him post match?

He looked absolutely shell-shocked at the task ahead plus him talking about not being a magician.

Unless Levy really releases the purse strings, I really can't see him hanging around.

Remember: Chelski found him too demanding & they ain't shy in the transfer market.

I'd like to think Conte's put it on some of the underbelly against Mara. Result was disappointing but pretty meaningless.. imo 


Reynard

You seem to start you post as a kind of self-proclaimed spokesman for West ham fans, denying my accusations of delusion... but at the end admit you are actually delusional... 

I'll put my hands up and admit to being the delusional one on the 22nd if in the unlikely event of The mighty Spurs being knocked out....   

ps. good luck against City tomorrow...

The Europey Conference tournament is useless and meaningless but the performance and result were very revealing.   Every single one of these second-string players (as well as some first team players) put in absolute shocking performances when they're supposed to be trying to impress a new manager. Conte now knows that there are very few players in his squad that he can trust.

Yeah, that's what I said..

Emitdeb - At no point have I suggested West Ham fans are delusional nor am I a spokesman for anybody , self-proclaimed or otherwise . My observation is based on the general observations made by West Ham fans on specific West Ham forums .
Your best wishes for Sunday are appreciated but it's highly unlikely we'll get anything against City . They're pretty good

No delusions on my part regarding the 22nd . I'm pretty sure that Mr Conte will have your mob in decent shape by then and it's likely to be a close contest .

Burnley are formidable. Just sayin'

It may only be Burnley but the sight of those Claret 'n' Blue shirts will put the fear in 'em

Seems the pitch is FROZEN

nO bURNLEY

Day off
Or maybe extra training by Conte

How to ruin Sunday.... 

Yep, postponed

How are you Aspro?

It seems even Conte has been taken in by Sanchex ffs how on earth did he pick him against Burnley?
He's got 4 days to contemplate that decision.

It's probably a good thing that the game was postponed. This rabble of sissies wouldn't've fancied a game on a cold, icy, snowy pitch and it gives Conte more time to mould them into shape.

Must be an advantage for the home game vs Brentford (thur)

We have the best run of fixtures through December, only home tie vs Liverpool looking tricky. 5 x home, 3 x away.

Apologies Emitdeb, I missed that post. Not too terrible to be fair, thanks for asking. Still contemplating another op to seal this sternum, as it doesn't look like it is going to work by itself. The x-ray showed that all the wiring has busted (due to coughing they reckon), but it has some scarring so at least it's trying to heal. Next appointment in March so I'm hoping it can still work beforehand, but I doubt that somehow. At least I'm not getting over excited about Spurs

I happened to have a chest x-ray last week and made an effort to count the wires (15). which surprised me that many.

I still get chills thinking about your plight. Tbh, I'd be super keen to get that properly aligned and sealed..

I have a theory for Thursdays game, Harrys replacement!   £40 - £60 mill.... Ivan Toney.