"Todays footballers are very weak human beings" - Roy Keane

I am no fan of Keane either, but he is right. The game is run by greedy players, hiding behind even greedier agents (how was that allowed to happen?), who will down tools at the drop of a hat. And all funded by us.

It happens because Prem League clubs are paying fortunes to foreign players who have no allegiance to the clubs they are playing for and the agents are planning the next transfer before the ink is dry on a contract.

Is this the Roy Keane that downed tools for his country?

Once a quitter, always a quitter.

the roy keane who was weak enough to allow an average Norweigan player to get under his skin so he had to try and take his leg off

Completely overrated as a character and a pundit and, for much longer as a footballer. Ask a fan to make you remember one game of Keane and they usually come back with the 1999 CL semi in Turin. He dined out on his "peak-Keano" performance for years. But what his manager singled out for praise was Keane cementing a half-fit Zidane. He got booked and missed the final. He was never a great player. And his character unravelled in 2002 before the WC.

LOL keane was a fantastic player one of the best to ever wear that Red shirt

Incorrect.

Without Keane United would not have won as many trophies in that era , he was the driving force and the engine and a true leader of the team

Really.

Biscuit ,you on the sauce.

Biscuit ,you on the sauce.

So UB you think you're a better judge than SAF?

He was popular with the fans for the "prawn sandwiches" riff and ending up in a jail cell now and then:- Redondo had the same status on the terraces; it didn't make him one of the best players ever to wear the Real Madrid shirt.

united biscuits for much longer a player lol keane was a fantastic player and leader for utd.and spot on about todays players.

why are these forums full up with clowns

He was a martinet on the pitch.
He talks with candour.
Probably less dislikeable than any other Man Utd player c 2000 - that's the highest praise we can allow him, and it is the festive season.

Fergie played Anderson and Djemba Djemba and Phil Neville for a good while and they were all cack, he kept Roy because Roy got the best out of the players around him mostly in the dressing room screaming and shouting and them and yelling out words like Standards and what is means to play for the shirt, not a special player or naturally flair plaer like Scholes but more a workoholic who did what it said on the Tin.

thanx for the football lesson haven. nobody knew he was not naturally gifted player like scholes and more of a workoholic.

you know your stuff

Fact: Poll fans for one memory of Roy Keane and most will cite the tackle that ended Haarland's career.
Second would be the og at the Stretford End v Real Madrid, when he ended up on his bottom and spat his bile from a lying position.
Third would be him throwing a tantrum and walking-out on his country in 2002.

Let us face it, you're not going to put his moves on the pitch to music.

yes Superjudge because if you post six smilies that makes you more correct then me lol.

superjudge

Even players like viera , gerrard, lampard all rated Keane as a very tough opponent , they cant all be wrong

biscuits this not about if you like keane or not.great player and leader.it obvious you dont understand football.

Every team needs a player like Keane who do the ugly stuff and when the chips are down they dig in

if he was playing today at hes peak would walk in to any prem team in the league

when akabula agrees with you, you know you've wrong

He was good enough for United, but can't be called World Class or a great, great players are very few and far between.

SAF called him 'one of the greats' was he wrong Shaven?

Like I say - put Keane's best moments to music and it would probably be Slipknot.
But that is to overestimate his influence, he always floundered on the big stage - the one exception being the CL semi 1999, but he wouldn't have got near a half-fit ZZ.

threw one of the biggest hissies for ire as player and asssistant coach,keeps having a dig at modern players,he was a right fookin boozehound(as many were),some of these players now watch everything they eat,some teetotal,get your fat irish pancake fookin arse out on a pitch with an athlete see how fckn long you last roy

lol more outstanding contribution from the scouse mastermind

Judicious comment, Rommel.

rommel dont talk bollocks he would walk in to any team in the prem today so would vieri gerrard lampard scholes all top draw players

any of it wrong anx?probs lopped off some time from his career.picked up injuries/didnt get over injuries,cos if youre throwing gallons of this poison down ya week after week...

didnt say he wasnt a fine player

Lots of them had drink for sure , even mersey ports last great team in the 80s it doesnt take away their quality

"Give him the ball and a yard of grass, he'll meet you with the perfect pass."

Have you heard of that saying, anxious?

Yes ub i have

Your missing the point here ub with your criticism of Keane , sure he could be a bit crazy but lots of top players have that madness about them

Fergie always praised his managers to high heaven, that's what good managers do.

He also said Gerrard was not a top  top player, which was obviously nonsense, praise his own, criticise others.

praised his own players *

Paul Scholes used to kick people but he could play if i remember

So did Viera , Zidane , etc

SH fergie did praise his players but also praised others , i remember him talking about Zola saying he was the only player he tried to man mark because he was that good

I'm not saying Keane was not a good player, he was a good player, but you take a player like Gerrard - he has been on the PFA team of the year a RECORD 8 times, yet Fergie said he wasn't a top top player, just nonsense, Fergie said what suited him.

Maybe he was winding Liverpool up a bit there SH

Zola was never a threat to United for the league and/or the main player for the rival club, what he said went down well with United fans, that's why he said it, and to try and harm Gerrard's confidence.

But he wasn't a top player, and by his disarming honesty he would affirm that himself.

Yet, if he were playing behind Zinedine Zidane, he would be a WC winner - great players make good team-mates look great. Keane was on a par w/ Deschamps, they just had different objectives.

sh the scousers were very rarely a threat to United while fergie was there , i think 2009 they finished 3rd when rafa had his fact rant ,

2nd rather

werent they a threat under Houllier one year? 10 games from greatness and all that

Maybe that would have been a bit earlier

ultimately saf was a bit of a failure,biggest club in the world,well they didnt step up to the european challenge

real madrid have won it 13 times,utd 3

He won it twice and got to 2 finals , also won the European cup winners cup in 91 beating Barcelona, yes he would have wanted more but to call him a failure is laughable, your club has had 28/29 years of failure

Correct, Rommel. Indeed, about the time of Xmas 1999 I remember Keane musing on Man Utd "dominating Europe" for "many years to come." Still raises a chuckle.

its a bitter bill anx,wash it doon with super

UB who is your team ?

European cup winners cup in 91 beating Barcelona,boll***,were taslking about the top prize in europe,dont fudge the issue

You have asked me before, anxious.
For my sins, Everton.
Feel free to have a pop.

Whats the problem rommel does that not count or something

Your talking the usual biased crap rommel, it will not hide your clubs long run of failure

were talking about saf,having every resource(biggest club in the world) and not taking the top prize in europe

are you a scouser ub ?

Who said United were the biggest club in the world thats media sh1te and corporate garbage

i still hear it every week bgitw

lets leave it ffs,good win yest,ole off to a good start

Certainly the biggest club in England la

No, anxious, I was raised elsewhere.

But I think this thread is about the status of Roy Keane?

A Christmas truce

More than that anxious - Merry Christmas and all best wishes for 2019.

anx you think utd wil get poch?

Who knows in 6 months things may look diferent

i think the main candidates will be the same,cant see ole getting it no matter how ell he does

No unless he does something sensational , i would not think so , but poch will have a decision to make spurs have a good team better than United atm , you never know they might win something this season that may alter his thinking

It all comes down to his salary.If he can double his money he will.It's that simple.

Consequently, Keane, it seems clear from his punditry to date, has a suspicion of modern players and their habits.

Today, it felt almost as if fellow Sky analyst Gary Neville was setting him up for an assist when he brought up the clothing range Man United star Jesse Lingard launched earlier this week. Keane’s response was predictable.

“If it was a good strong dressing room that wouldn’t be tolerated, and that’s why I worry about the United dressing room,” he said.

While such comments may be amusing to some, suggesting that Lingard doing something so innocuous during his time off is linked with United’s problems seems a tenuous claim at best. Even superstars such as Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo devote plenty of time to their other business interests, and it hardly seems to affect them unduly.

Roy if he was snorting coke all day or was in the boozer you might be entitled to have a word or kick him up and down the training pitch....