England v Croatia on Sunday

weird situation where england will be relegated if they lose as well

relegated if score draw as well

Amazing how this group has turned after the first two games.

yep looked inconceivable they wouldn't win it. still might of course

takes a bit of doing to ship 3 goals twice in a row despite having 70% of the ball

who would England play in the Semi if they topped the group?

belgium, portugal and france are the likely other qualifiers. been mooted the semi finals and final will be in portugal

Croatia will ruin England again.

Nov 16, 2018 -- 1:17AM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

who would England play in the Semi if they topped the group?

Random draw I think.

I looked at the wiki page briefly and think it could be a winner from  any tier group, 1,2,3 or 4.

No, it's a final 4 in June of the top 4 teams from tier 1. There would be no point to playing lower tier teams would there.

they've been doing that for decades in qualifying, they just want the big nations there.

France in big danger of not winning their group now. Holland just need a point away to Germany.

Holland should beat Germany

Rakitic out for Croatia tomorrow.

big ask for croatia to go again 2 and a half days later away from home after doing a lot of chasing the ball against spain

England 1.87, Croatia 4.5 = Racism in football. Is it ethical to (hopefully) profit from this?

No Rooney makes England a solid lay.

England are waaaaaaaay too short here. I was expecting to see them between 2.4 and 2.5!

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Can anyone tell me the point of this competition? I don't get it at all...

Let's hope the pitch has been sorted out.

not really sure why it hadn't been when spurs played psv last week. not exactly the first year they've had NFL there and can't ever remember it looking so bad

not exactly the first year they've had NFL there


poss first time they've had to use it again within 48 hrs though...last year they had the NFL games at Twickenham when they fell the weekend before Spurs Home games, presumably by design..of course, Spurs were supposed to be in their new stadium by now, so they would have thought fine to program the NFL games at Wembley this season

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.@England XI to face Croatia: Pickford, Walker, Stones, Gomez, Chilwell, Delph, Dier, Barkley, Sterling, Rashford, Kane.

Having seen this team, I'm confused why the books have shortened England? I've backed Croatia, however thinking about it, and the fact that a score draw is as good as a win I'm less confident than I was.

I think waiting for England to score first before laying them sounds like the best option.

No Rakitic, injured vs Spain is why England shortened.

That midfield looks very uninspiring for England. Delph and Dier ffs.

N88uk that news was available most of yesterday, so I'd be surprised if the market is so slow? Besides (if this is the reason for the drift) I think it's insulting to suggest the World Cup finalists are so heavily reliant on Rakatic?

I will probably end up looking like an idiot, especially with home advantage, but I can't see how the odds are so different.

I thought you were talking why they shortened last few days rather than last 24 hours.

You have to be a real football fanatic or degenerate gambler to be interested in this pile of **** comp.

No, England were 1.87 when I posted yesterday and Croatia 4.5, and I was aware of the Rakatic situation. England 1.80 , Croatia 4.7 now

AllinR1, a score draw is not as good as a win for anyone. Both teams need to win.

Nov 18, 2018 -- 1:29PM, DirkDiggler wrote:

You have to be a real football fanatic or degenerate gambler to be interested in this pile of **** comp.

This comp will be viewed as bigger than the Euros in 20 years.

Nov 18, 2018 -- 1:30PM, asparagus wrote:

AllinR1, a score draw is not as good as a win for anyone. Both teams need to win.

Thanks, guess I didn't get it and need to read up again.

Basically either side win = winner wins group and loser is relegated

0-0 = Spain 1st, England 2nd, Croatia relegated

Score draw = Spain 1st, Croatia 2nd, England relegated

Over 2.5 goals here i think

Thanks for that n88uk.

This is some gamble England 1.77, Croatia 4.8

0 - 0 @ 15s

and lay the draw

see where that goes with a bit of trading

Goals and cards, for me.

England shortening all the time 1.76 now

England 1.73, Croatia 5.0!!!

so I may have to go down the card on correct scores

depends it one or both hold out before a goal is scored

england midfield unadventurous - but what do I know

Nov 18, 2018 -- 1:36PM, anxious wrote:

Over 2.5 goals here i think

hard luck with that

bet these fcks start passing to each other,dirty stuff like that

foreigners - what do you expect

just plain poor from sterling,awful finish

first one

Kane's finishing has looked very average

how long will my 0 - 0  last? traded against a lay of the draw

it did at italy

You have to be a real football fanatic or degenerate gambler to be interested in this pile of **** comp.



or an England or Croatian fan.

or a serious bettor

as soon as Sterling has to think about what he is doing on the ball, his end product is dog$h!t

Cant see many goals on our bench!!.. inclined to lay lay lay!!! right now.

Maybe he should have stuck with the team that played USA.

Nov 18, 2018 -- 2:20PM, Big Boss wrote:

as soon as Sterling has to think about what he is doing on the ball, his end product is dog$h!t

Like most of these over paid muppets, where fat Ronaldo when you need him

Slight difference in class don't you think Eric?

I've decided to go in on Croatia again @ 6.4. win or lose I think that's taking the piss. Croatia took off in the 2nd half v Spain, although they did concede to. 6.4 for a smash and grab raid seems very fair to me.

Nov 18, 2018 -- 2:51PM, AllinR1 wrote:

Slight difference in class don't you think Eric?

You ARE right of course but kids have the energy and the daring. That unsettles teams but this game was always going to be a war of attrition and the Croations are masters at that.

Rashford trying to make things happen

Stirling is just getting in every ****s way!

keystone cop defending!

deflection, unlucky.

England pay the price for being nancy boys, don't take your chances then you get it up your arse

Stones again v Croatia.
Liability.

England need someone who can actually put the fooking ball in the net

come on croatia  you can do better than that

why do so many so called professionals seem to manage to hoof it over the bar!!??

A format where a 6-0 defeat does not count for goal difference if this game finishes 1-1 is absurd.

When's Harry Kane coming on

I've somewhat bottled it and although you'd expect Croatia to be professional enough to see this out, they way they conceded 2 equalisers v Spain worried.

Got my stake back @ 2.1 so at this point I'd rather England win than a draw!

The 'expert' pundit on the radio 30 seconds before the goal.....only a matter of time before England score

croatia a second goal please

England should get at least 2 if not 3 before full time

Boooooom

1-1

Same points GD -5 GD 0 .....team with goal difference 0 is relegated

When did Harry come on

Some revenge for the semi defeat

2-1 kane

We should have beat these in the World Cup, if not for poor finishing in the first half (Kane in particular)we'd have been 3 goals to the good

Impressive...though I don't think Croatia defend leads too well

Harry away to get all the plaudits, scores a 3 inch tap in, and misses 3 sitters Well done England keeps my double going

its coming home

Got to admit Southgate is doing a fine job tbh

Never thought he's be a success

maybe improve on the defence!!!

Never in doubt.

Some acheivement to top this group with Spain and the World Cup finalist.