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Good luck mc deffo been phil gils target this year and is a bigger price than I was expecting. Also like the look of Stybar and Think trentin certainly isn't the worse 66-1 shot I've ever seen.
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Why isn't this on the cycling forum?
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If it is as wet as it looks it might be then that definitely favours STYBAR and probably Van Aert too.
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With all due respect, OP, cycling, y'know... who gives a f*ck?
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Cycling.......I did wonder what on earth it was all about.
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Lampaert is the big danger in the Quickstep team. BMC will be better here than last week, I will keep GVA onside. Damien Gaudin is 10x the price he should be
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They haven't even got any muscles and what's with the leotards
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Yeah there's hardly a pound of fat on these guys, they're proper athletes. That's why when you have a guy who has a ruptured spleen and kidney, three broken ribs and bruised lungs from a crash he gets back on his bike and rides for another 10km trying to catch up before ending in intensive care. Whereas footballers fall over and roll around from someone tickling them.
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Any word on Gilbert? Has he had his porridge tonight?
You put me on him last week @16/1, hes shorter now |
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He’s my main bet for the race. I’ve taken him win only at 15s. Sagan and Van Avermaet have much better profiles for this race but Gilbert is the strongest rider in the peloton (I believe) and we should get a bloody good run for our money.
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Great write up as ever MC.
Any non-cycling fans scoffing at it on here would do well to watch it. Watch it once and you'll never miss another. Best weekend of sport in the whole year - Scouse and Manc derbies, Paris-Roubaix, the Masters . |
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and the Checkatrade Trophy final.
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Yeah there's hardly a pound of fat on these guys, they're proper athletes. That's why when you have a guy who has a ruptured spleen and kidney, three broken ribs and bruised lungs from a crash he gets back on his bike and rides for another 10km trying to catch up before ending in intensive care. Whereas footballers fall over and roll around from someone tickling them.
That's because they're all smashed off their t*ts. |
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Gone in on Gilbert Mary and looking forward to it. Cheers.
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Bearing in mind they are all on medication it rather devalues the concept of it being a sport
I love watching Le Tour but its credibility is completely tarnished |
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And you think football is clean, presumably?
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All them super fit athletes & yet most require inhalers... footballers cheat but cyclists take it to a different level
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Difference between football and cycling is that there's so little skill & technique involved, that the only edges left are in find in a bottle or a syringe, all the teams and cyclist's know this and that's why they're all at it. Are there drugs in football? sure, is the sport completely rife with it?
NO. To compare cycling's drug problems with football's is Putin/Trump worthy. |
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Where in football, at the top level, would drugs be involved?
![]() And why is there another thread on here about a pseudo-sport like cycling? Isn't there a ''weekend pastimes'' forum on here? |
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Football has a serious problem with drugs. If you don't think so you're extremely naive.
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Not just football to be fair, all professional sports do. But cycling and athletics are the only sports that make any serious efforts to catch cheats.
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It doesn't matter greatly at all if drugs were rife in Football, it's just not in the same realm of prevalence in comparison with Cycling for obvious reasons.
Ashley Barnes and Rondon for example are not going to suddenly turn into Aguero and Kane if they take drugs or get any big money moves to top European clubs. They wouldn't and never could be as good, drug taking in Football doesn't improve talent, you either have that or you don't. Whereas some middle of the road Cyclist on the juice can win start to win big Cycling events. That's the difference between endurance events like Cycling where physical fitness is 90% of the required ingredients to be successful, 10% mental, 0% skil, and actual sports like Football where talent is the main criteria, Le Tissier one of laziest players in PL history, also one of the best, because he had talent. Kind Regards. |
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What a load of tosh
The level of drugs cheats in cycling has been throughout its history...the supposed detection procedures are purely superficial to allay the public perception...the reality is it is rife throughout the sport..which doesn't excuse athletics where the problem is also endemic |
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Any professional cyclist has at least 25 out of competition tests a year, more than any footballer gets in their entire career. And because of the wealth in the game the financial rewards for success in football are so much more than in any other sport. So there is no real desire to catch drug cheats - why kill the goose that keeps laying golden eggs?
In football stamina is all important. Yes "Skill" or "technique" is but ability to execute skills when exhausted is key and what separates the best from the also rans. And recovery from two games a week absolutely vital. Let's look at Manchester City for example, the best team in the country. They play a very high pressing game where stamina is at a premium. Their manager Pep Guardiola, served a drug ban after a failed test for nandrolone in his playing career. He also spent most of his career at Barcelona, the team most heavily implicated in the Operacion Puerto affair where football teams were amongst several high profile sports stars whose blood bags infused with EPO were found in Fuentes' office. Lets also not forget Pep's time at Bayern Munich where he fell out with all the club medical doctors, who resigned on mass. Wonder why? And then he came to City, who had 3 whereabouts violations in Pep's first season. |
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Move along...nothing to see here
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And let's not forget the Juventus EPO criminal case
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Have you seen Ronaldo mate??? You think he's clean?
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Also look at the miraculous change in body shape/physique from people like Sterling 2017/18 and Gareth Bale 2015/16. Clearly juiced.
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who gives a **** if theyre all on drugs or not, if it makes them better cyclists then let them do whatever they want imo.
really enjoyed last weeks race and id encourage anyone with nothing else on tomorrow to tune in for a couple of hours entertainment |
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I've read Lance Armstrong's book so I know (good book though)
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Ronnie is not on drugs just sheer dedication
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There's 3 things I believe, and it applies to any sport
1) If the opportunity to dope is there, people will do it. Sports that don't take anti-doping seriously will have endemic doping, because the drive to win, and the rewards for success are so huge. 2) Some sports will actively turn a blind eye to failed tests, or people will serve doping bans on the quiet because the people in charge of the sport don't want failed tests to ruin the "image" of the sport. Cycling has been repeatedly guilty of this - see Lance Armstrong. 3) In sports where doping happens, the ones at the very top are at it. Clean athletes do not outperform doping athletes. |
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You're trying to drag all other sports into the gutter with Cycling. You need to accept endurance events are a separate case to skilled based sports.
If A clean athlete can't beat doped up to the eyeballs athletes in events such as as Swimming, Cycling and Athletics - that would be because they are predominately based around stamina/fitness, which is virtually the be all and end all. What about Skilled athletes, skilled sports. Ferrer has had the biggest engine in Tennis, famed for his fitness levels at a time when Spanish sport and Spanish stars were largely under suspicion, Federer is one of the most skilled players of all time who has never been reliant on stamina due to his quick fire tennis style and never under suspicion, according to your logic, a doped up Ferrer should be beating a clean Federer, they've played 18 times over a 14 year period, Federer's won all 18 matches. Pep's teams have also been suspicious for their fitness levels and it wouldn't surprise me, but if true he had Messi Xavi, Iniesta at their peak at Barca, took over a treble winning Bayern team and didn't win the European Cup himself, and then the richest club in the world where they buy full backs for 50 mil a pop, so whether or not drugs are involved, it's obviously not a fundamental issue, as it would be in purely physical sports such as Cycling. |
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Yeah you're right mes, stamina and recovery are not fundamental in football
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Looking like the forecast for tomorrow is improving. If there is rain it should be earlier in the day.
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BTW Federer isnt clean
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http://tennispurist.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/the-curious-case-of-roger-federer.html
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