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akabula
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On the BBC website. Must have been a committee thing. Sad

A proposal to scrap 45-minute halves is to be looked at by football's lawmakers to deter time-wasting.

Instead, there could be two periods of 30 minutes with the clock stopped whenever the ball goes out of play.

Lawmaking body the International Football Association Board (Ifab) says matches only see about 60 minutes of "effective playing time" out of 90.




The idea is one of several put forward in a new strategy document designed to address football's "negativities".

Another proposal would see players not being allowed to follow up and score if a penalty is saved - if the spot-kick "is not successful", play would stop and a goal-kick awarded.

Other ideas include a stadium clock linked to a referee's watch and a new rule allowing players to effectively pass to themselves or dribble the ball when taking a free-kick.

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By:
clacherholiday2
When: 17 Jun 17 23:28
my knee jerk reaction was to say the time rule sounds dumb as fk but the more i think about it the more i think i could get on board with it.

is time wasting really that much of a problem that the entire sport needs to change for it?
By:
mafeking
When: 18 Jun 17 00:19
would say so. plenty of lower half prem teams waste time from the first minute let alone when in front. for example keeper kicking the non existent mud off his boots on the post then taking the ball to the other side of the 6 yard box for every goal kick
By:
grumpyjim
When: 18 Jun 17 08:38
so much money in the beautiful game .. thats not helped ..
Paying for 90 mins of the game and thats what we should get .. A lot of players loss themselves for  long spells on an OFF DAY  ..? WE are cheated as consumers as it is ..  so .. clock for 90 mins play be fair for all .. the amount of subs used and squad sizes now . ... Some or most off this .. caused by clearing lines .. we were never taught to  kick  ball out of play its cheating as well  ..its about beating opponents fair and square .. PLAYERS EARN HUGE MONEY .. AND WE DESERVE BETTER ..  Penalty Idea seems more fair ...? ... passing to themselves when fair .. seems a move in right direction ..
MAIN MAN FOR TEAM AND CRONIES SHOULD BE ACCOMMODATED IN STAND .. AWAY FROM THE PLAY .. MOSTLY THAY CAUSE DISTRACTION ., ?? ..LEARN TO PLAY WITH . ............FAIR PLAY  ........AND RESPECT  .........??MAYBE HELP IF THIS GOES AHEAD ..
By:
Outpost
When: 18 Jun 17 09:32
the yanks have never been happy with 45 minute halfs and no advert breaks.

the growing american market might have something to do with this and then the TV companies will be able to run their ads when the ball is out of play and then tell the ref when he can restart the game.
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 18 Jun 17 10:18
One of the few things i agreed with blatter on is consistency from grass roots to the top. Time wasting is a professional problem, most amateur players dont know how long is left in game to bother with time wasting.

Yet this rule is likely to effect amateurs more. Its one thing if you have ball boys but another thing if you have to stop the clock for 20 seconds every time the keeper has to run down a hill and fish the ball out of a hedge. They could be there all day.
By:
ericster
When: 18 Jun 17 11:22
Fixing what ain't broken springs to mind.

bored fux meddling.
By:
lurka
When: 21 Jun 17 08:05
time wasting isn't just about running down the clock, it's about killing the other team's momentum and not allowing them to get a rhythm or build pressure. It will still happen for that reason and it happens at lower amateur levels too albeit not to the same extent.

If they want to stamp it out they could just get very strict on it and on diving/feigning but they have never shown any willingness to address this. It is supposed to be a man's game (although you can't call it that any more), a contact sport, but they have let the likes of Busquets make a mockery out of the game. Ironically women's football is more of a man's game than men's, that sort of carry on doesn't happen and is frowned upon.

If they are going to introduce video refs this should be one of the first areas they cover. No point in issuing retrospective bans for diving as it will still happen and they'll still have 11 players in their next game.

I disagree with Blatter. When there are millions at stake and people's careers it is totally different to grassroots level. eg the Henry handball incident a few years ago where the world could see blatant cheating and nothing could be done about it.

Make no mistake, the game has already sold its soul for money, from kick off times to ticketing, it is all now owned by corporations and this is a move to appease them further and make more money.
By:
Blackrock
When: 21 Jun 17 10:31
Don't see the need to change 45 mins each half with added on time for injuries etc.

I would like to see the offside rule change. I think we should have no offside inside the penalty box. Will stop all the 'was he interfering with play' and very tight calls made by lino's etc.
By:
Rider
When: 21 Jun 17 14:19
stadium clock has to happen because players (of the weaker team) are getting worse at time wasting, much of pulis's (and many others) success is down to reducing the length of a game like this, last night in the sebia u21 game there were lots of stoppages in the first half and 1 minute gets added on because its hot, ffs

its bad news for goalkeepers, most of whom have made an art of taking ages over goal kicks etc
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 21 Jun 17 15:59
I love all those ideas in the OP.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 21 Jun 17 16:33
yep pass all those rules.... and kill football
By:
asparagus
When: 21 Jun 17 17:40
Unfortunately its David Elleray full of his own importance. Always been an idiot and now wants to completely change the game just so he can 'leave a legacy'. Egotistical fool.
By:
asparagus
When: 21 Jun 17 17:41
Dribbling from corners for instance. Why the hell do we need that?
By:
Nonaynever
When: 22 Jun 17 12:51
I've got a 10 point plan to improve the English game.

1) Have 1 referee and 2 LINESMEN.
2) If an attacker is beyond the last defender when the ball is played he's OFFSIDE whether it's 1st phase or fcking 10th phase.
3) Shove video refereeing where it should go, man up and accept some things go for you and some go against you.
4) All except 1 top flight game to kick off at 3.00 on Saturday, we can have 1 live game on Sunday.
5) Give grown men the option of standing up to watch their team or sitting down.
6) In the FA cup save Wembley for the c0cking final.
7) Instant life bans for all fans taking pictures/videos of players taking throw ins and corners.
8) Allow players to discard shin pads and play the latter part of games on sh!tty muddy pitches with their socks rolled down.
9) Fans have to be in place 1 hour before kick off and will be shot if they leave before they've clapped or booed their team off the field.
10)Cap players wages at 500 quid a week and let them drink and smoke.

In other words, can we go back to the 70's and 80's when football wasn't a yawnfest and REALLY mattered to people.
By:
Rider
When: 22 Jun 17 13:38
changes should focus on removing the dark arts, or at least make punishments fit the crimes, not just diving which is the pundit go to winge but also all the cheating defenders do that illogically get praised by the pundits

eg last night in the germany u21 game, a handball from the defender stops a dangerous counter attack described as a "clever foul to give away"
By:
lurka
When: 22 Jun 17 14:24
they should bring in sin bins, it's a bit of a joke that a player sins in a game and then gets banned for a match against another team
By:
roache
When: 22 Jun 17 22:24
It has taken the clowns from FIFA 2 decades to try video technology and now they are getting giddy and trying to change everything,if they don't like the fannying about with substitutions late in the game to run the clock down then simple no substitutions allowed after the 80th minute,lets not start Americanising our game with 30 minute halfs with the clock being stopped continuously and time outs.
By:
thewrongtrousers
When: 22 Jun 17 23:11
According to Opta actual game time last season in the Premier League show Arsenal had the most with an average of 58.10 minutes and Crystal Palace had the least with 52.33 minutes. So I'd say contrary to what a few people are saying we would actually be getting more football not less.

Don't think the penalty rebound one will come in as video replays will solve that anyway. The penalty change that may happen though is changing the order of teams in the shootouts, the bias is currently well in favour of the team going first.
By:
brassneck
When: 22 Jun 17 23:18
if teams don't win the players should get no wages,that would sort all out.Laugh
By:
thelatarps
When: 24 Jun 17 20:35
Football used to be about local lads representing working class communities.
Its nothing of the sort now.
Its in the business of entertainment.
Daft rules and officiating errors will ruin its reputation and harm the USP.
Changes have to be made.
Going back to the 70s/80s when you took your life in your hands just by turning up to a stadium is simply madness
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 25 Jun 17 11:27
Elleray said he looked at all the rules and said 'Why was this implemented'  Good idea.  How long did it take them to change the rules on goalkeepers running with the ball!  All it did was slow the game down.


The Key Proposals

Players can play free kicks to themselves - The only thing I can see against taking free kicks and corners and rolling balls is knowing when the ball is back in play.
Goal kicks do not have to leave the penalty area - Fine
Free kicks permitted with moving ball - As above, when is the ball back in play?
Penalties conceded for handling back-passes - Fair enough, better than the chaos of a free kick.
Penalty goals awarded for goal-line handballs - Nah.  Penalty is OK and the player is off anyway. 
Full-time whistle only when ball is out of play - Fair enough
No follow-ups from penalty kicks - Sensible.   Personally, I would allow goalkeepers to come off their line if they want as long as they stay in the six yard box.  Most are off their line anyway and it is a difficult law to apply.
Referee to stop clock every time the ball is out of play -  A massive change to the game and onerous on the ref. 


But, currently, timekeeping is a shambles and a disgrace.  I can only blame the officials.  The current system doesn't work well and needs changing in some way.



Full time whistle only when ball out of play...fair enough.
By:
Rider
When: 25 Jun 17 12:02
the timekeeping has to be done by an off field official

goalkeepers will probably never get used to this change, a new low was reached in the portugal/macedonia u21 game when the keeper was booked for time wasting in the 88th minute - his team were losing 3-2 at the time! think he got confused because the other team were pushing hard for another goal...
By:
loui
When: 25 Jun 17 12:40
There's still plenty of ways to timewaste while the balls in play, so it doesn't fix that side of it. A rule I,d like to see is when a player has to go off for treatment after being fouled, I think the player who injured him should be off the pitch till the in there one comes back on. Why should they have an extra player when they done the foul.
By:
loui
When: 25 Jun 17 12:41
Injured one comes back on I meant
By:
Rider
When: 25 Jun 17 12:53
teams good at keeping possession can run the clock down but it requires footballing skill so fair enough, the opposition still have the option to press higher and closer
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 25 Jun 17 12:54
FIFA seem to be moving away from the idea of having one set of rules applicable throughout the game...so yes, off field time keeping is good...

No substitutions after 90 minutes would be a good one.

Players continually try to stop the taking of a quick free kick.  They should clamp down on that with a yellow card.  Simple enough.

But I think they are trying to avoid giving cards out unless they have to.
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