David Moyes warned female reporter 'you might get a slap'

Moyes is such a mug. hope he gets hung out to dry

Been a complete lack of questioning by the press of the poor job he's doing.....as if he's been given a free pass

true colours.

Sexism? How

I see the virtue signalling emperor (Lineker) has been all over this


FFS, grow a pair. It was a f***g joke.

Virtue Signalling to the extreme Platini what an absolute N*b Lineker is. As much as I don't like Moyes  and what he said was wrong anybody who is willing to take that joke literally needs to have a hard look at themselves. This last year or so the virtue signalling phenonenom just keeps getting worse. Its cringeworthy stuff everybody wants to be offended. All the big issues going on across the world today and this is BBC breaking news? f**k off. 230 innocent civilians were bombed in Mosul Iraq last week didn't hear too much about that did we.

One massive positive the Trump affect has had is that the vast majority of people see through this corporate mainstream media BS thats been drummed into the public for years.

classic white knight syndrome

The same white knight who binned his wife, the mother of his children, in favour of a younger model

If anything she is being treated the same as a man and not being treated differently because she's a woman. That is the opposite of sexism and I thought that was what they all wanted? A lot of them don't even understand what sexism is and just bleat out the word.

They were up in arms last week about Legs-it because you'd never see something like that if it were two men.

That's true lurka. It's not sexist at all but it is unpleasant.

Great opportunity for Sunderland to sack him, possibly avoiding a large pay off.

sweaty hard man

if you listen to the interview its said in good spirit and thats how vicki took it, it might make a story for some tabloid but there really is nothing in it, as mentioned its the type of banter that makes her inclusive, not that the pc brigade would understand that

Apr 3, 2017 -- 2:23PM, Afc888 wrote:

Virtue Signalling to the extreme Platini what an absolute N*b Lineker is. As much as I don't like Moyes  and what he said was wrong anybody who is willing to take that joke literally needs to have a hard look at themselves. This last year or so the virtue signalling phenonenom just keeps getting worse. Its cringeworthy stuff everybody wants to be offended. All the big issues going on across the world today and this is BBC breaking news? f**k off. 230 innocent civilians were bombed in Mosul Iraq last week didn't hear too much about that did we.One massive positive the Trump affect has had is that the vast majority of people see through this corporate mainstream media BS thats been drummed into the public for years.

Well said. Lineker makes me sick.  Can't handle watching MOTD anymore because of him.

He wouldn't have said it to a male reporter, tried to bully/intimidate the reporter just because he thought he could get away with it because she was a women.

The reporter was laughing nervously and not laughing normally.

Yer the above is spot on. Way too much bs is tried to pass as "banter" these days.

He knew the camera was still rolling. It was ham-fisted ad-libbing which came out way too near the knuckle, for which he's apologised, but she laughed because she knew he was trying to share banter with her. A sign of a good working relationship.

he'd no idea the camera was rolling hence the press conference apology today, he himself didn't even try to dress it up as anything other than what it was so, so he basically was acknowleding he was well out of line i.e, it wasn't banter.

I know people get wound up by the PC brigade, but in this case he was basically being a bully/trying to intimidate someone for doing their job.

It's true what people have said on this forum about how little attention is drawn towards British managers like Moyes when struggling in the job yet as soon as foreign managers are anywhere near the relegation zone it's mentioned every week, Moyes seems to have got a free ride even though he has been dire, so surprised he reacted like this.

Same old British managers always do the rounds and seem to get jobs no matter how many times they fail but TV pundits are reluctant to criticise them and top British players for things like Diving but go in hard of overseas players (the Vardy/Nasri incident a perfect example)....the pundits see these managers at golfing days and charity events as well as guest pundits (as tobermory said yesterday) so that would explain it.

why the f--k are you worried about what Moyes said to a reporter. who f--kin cares. cheers.

interview ends after 10 seconds, banter begins at 11 seconds:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39484238

He knew the camera was still rolling.

whether he knew it was on or not (let's say he knew), he assumed it wouldn't be broadcast, which it wasn't, just leaked.

That bit at the end though "be a bit more careful next time" in that tone he used, that gave it away, he was pissed off and said as much.

FFS the female reporter didn't complain and has refused to get involved in the follow up.
Spoke to Moyes 2 days after the incident and she was happy with what was said.
Not enough for the sweety wife brigade on here though.

not like you to stand up for your fellow Jocks Aka

Listen he's an ex celtic man so if I get an opportunity I'd put the boot in (metaphorically speaking of course) but here it was quite obviously a joke.
They can both be clearly heard laughing albeit for some reason you seem to now it's not her normal laugh. Could you provide a link to her normal laugh please.

lol. aka, put this dumb clown in his place. cheers.

So he was joking when he said "just be caredul next time" in that tone.

Have you even seen his press conference ? he didn't even try to deny it, he said it was heat of the moment, he is ackowledging it

That's only your interpretation of what he said/meant.

You believe it was more likely "be careful the next time you come in" was made as an unprovoked threat to a female BBC journalist in front of a room full of witnesses rather than the continuation of a clumsy bit of banter?

Btw passing that as banter is poor as best. The reporter laughs when he says the first line about you were getting a wee bit naughty there. After he says the second bit about the slap, it turns very awkward, and the atmosphere screams awkward.

If it's poor at best why not tell me what I really mean?

Trump said he likes to grab them by the you know where.....



and he ended up as President

the white knight paragon of virtue (signalling) Lineker has given this non-story arms and legs.

Is this the same white knight who binned his wife, mother of his children, in favour of a younger model ?

Better stick to crisp commercials and tax evasion, pal

I'm not sure which part of  David Moyes' comment "it was heat of the moment and I apologise" akabula doesn't understand.

Nothing to do with interpretation

he is acknowledging what he did and not even trying himself to pass it off as banter, literally never even tried to defend it

HAVEN, moyes was joking imo ( and the reporters ), only in your world was he being serious and about to slap her .

regards his statement he took the only route out left to him.

don't know anyone that jokes with women by saying I'll give you a slap, maybe it's common place in Glasgow.

...EXACTLY my point, you seem to have a problem knowing a jovial situation from a serious one.

don't buy it, he was clearly agitated by the question about being under pressure esp with the owners in the stand today, he snapped and admitted "I regret my comments".

To me it just seem like macho men trying to justify it as "a bit of banter", rather then for what it was, a man trying to intimidate a women because he didn't like her question.

"heat of the moment" was referring to having to field a question he knew was coming after dropping 2 points against a team with one of the worst away records in the history of the premiership that all but confirmed Sunderland's relegation.

What should he have done other than apologise? Say his threat to slap her was only a bit of banter? Or do you honestly believe a 53 year old streak of piss intended to launch himself, on camera, across a room full of people (including a BBC cameraman and soundman who could have pointed out the inappropriateness of his comments if they thought he was serious) at a woman who was merely doing her job? Moyes is under pressure, not mentally unstable.

Journo's are one of the most hard neck bast**d professions there are. Wouldn't waste any tears on them.

apologising was the smart thing to do given the likely outrage from social justice warriors, that doesn't necessarily mean he thought an apology was warranted in the circumstances

This has to be one of the more ludicrous interventions by the FA. A quiet word about tact and no more should be heard of an innocuous remark.

think Vicci wd do Moysie 1 on 1 he streak of p1ss

if he gets fired at any stage it won't be a surprise, anything like this could tip the balance and might lead the board to pull the plug on him, so maybe he was just being smart and nipping it in the bud. If I were in his position I'd do the same and not let it get out of hand. He may already know how close the board is to pulling the plug

If he had said that to Theresa May then I would have nominated him for "proper man of the year award". I mean there is no harm in that poor girl which cannot be said of Mrs Mouthy.

Apr 4, 2017 -- 11:32AM, GLASGOWCALLING wrote:

HAVEN, moyes was joking imo ( and the reporters ), only in your world was he being serious and about to slap her .  regards his statement he took the only route out left to him.

He wasn't about to slap her. He's trying to abuse his power to make her fear asking such questions questioning him in the future. No-one is saying he was actually about to slap her.

STICH THAT !

... it was banter imo, thats where we agree to differ, you and others thought he was serious ( ), i and the reporter took it

as BANTER.

And everything getting passed as "banter" is why football stadiums are so toxic full of sexism and racism.

Sexism - banter
Racism - banter
Chanting 10 German bombers - banter
Nazi salutes - banter
IRA chants - banter

You don't know the reporter took it as banter.

Not reporting it means nothing. There's all those stants how a large % of woman in the work force have experienced harassment in the work place but most don't report it. Many think it would hurt their job prospects in doing so. So not reporting it literally means nothing, she would have nothing to gain from reporting it, not like say the Eva Caneiro case where she could sue is it, so it wouldn't benefit her career in any way to report it.

I doubt Glascow would see it as 'banter' if a man said to he daughter or mum that he'll give her a slap.

If that's banter that is weird banter with a female.

people not knowing intended humour from real threats is rather frightening .

We know he actually wouldn't have done it so nobody is talking about actually carrying out the act if that's what you're confused about, what I'm saying is he never said what he said in a joking way, he was being serious in the sense, he was trying intimidate her and send out a message as in don't ask me questions likes that again. Obviously he wouldn't of been physical so you may have missed my point.

you obviously know nothing about Glasgow or west of Scotland humour.

I can assure you that threatening to give someone a slap is commonplace banter. I've heard it loads of times, and 90% of the time its a woman (friend, sister. mother) saying it to a man.
Always said with a smile, a laugh, its called a joke.

I suspect the furore over this is because its man saying to woman. So much for gender equality eh ? 

Somebody with a cockney accent was saying the same last night on radio so it's not exclusive to Scotland, more exclusive to bully's in this case.

Agree with Scandinavian. Only a bullying culture can pass this as banter. It was a clear attempt to intimidate so she didn't ask awkward questions again.

WALOFS FFS GROW UP - No wonder the world is f***** if people take this stuff seriously - get a hobby and stop crying over nowt

hard to believe this even got on the BBC News #worldgonemad

If this was a male reporter its a non story

Just cause its a female its still banter grow up and move on

If anything, I'd think he was trying to get into her pants, a kind of "come on". Okay, she didn't sidle over to him and give him a playful nudge in the ribs ,Whatever.

I dont think you have to be P.C. to say he was out of order and at very best from his side was hugely embarassing ...

Needs to be a bit more gender neutral when chatting with the press imo..

Let's hope it upsets the Sunderland players as much as some on here

I'm on Leicester

brac - would he have the balls to say it to a man? I doubt it very much.


Moyes has pleaded guilty. So he knows what he said was unacceptable. Sackable offence? No way!

only unacceptable to those who dont have any common sense

So that's Moyes then.

FFS, IYO INJERA












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sorry, should have said IN YOUR OPINON

*opinion

Just don't see why he apologised if he felt it was acceptable.

BTW I don't really care! Just a talking point and I genuinely hope it was meant in jest.

It was bullying, imo. Moyes is one of those old-school managers who likes to pretend to be "touchy feely" or PC when it suits him, i.e. when he is being well paid for it. But when it suits him, he can turn on the sinister, Joe Pesci impersonation when he wants to try to intimidate someone, which is what he tried to do at the end. He is the type of would-be "hard man" who would probably run a mile if confronted by a male of his own size who could actually fight. Classic abuse of power, imo. Don't think he'll be getting his usual punditry gig on BBC 5 Live this time, after he gets sacked.

It's not just a gender issue, either. Lots of managers are guilty of abusing the power dynamic when dealing with journalists (male or female) Mourinho and Guardiola to name but two. They know that they are pretty much unaccountable, as long as their team is winning. Unless they do something really ill-advised as Moyes did, and get caught on tape. And, by the way, I don't like Gary lineker either, and I have plenty of common sense.

Was he really thinking violent thoughts? Would he? I mean does he? Might he? Hit a women? Surely not.

This is a non-story.  Isn't it?

It doesn't matter, imo. Whether he had violent intent or not- He probably didn't. The fact remains that it was an attempt to intimidate someone, who was not in a position to retaliate, barely diguised as a piece of "banter". If he had stopped at the point where the reporter laughed (nervously, in my opinion). Then, he might have been able to pass it off as a joke, but the last part was very different in tone, and cannot, convincingly, be said to be light-hearted.

So, is it bullying when a woman says it ?

Laughable to accuse the man of bullying,we met the bloke in a restaurant a couple of months ago and despite having a quiet meal he was an absolute gentleman despite being on the receiving end of a lot of banter and requests for pictures on behalf of grandchildren. It is ludicrous to suggest any malice intent,perfectly reasonable to point out that the reporter slipped in an unexpected question and to joke about it afterwards. For heaven's sake people,do grow up and move on.

Wouldn't it have made more sense to intimidate the journalist before the interview began rather than after it finished?

She hadn't slipped an extra question in before the interview.As I understand it,most of these interviews give the interviewee a prepare list to save any gaffs. The lady concerned never complained it was,apparently another person who took offence on her behalf. If I was a public figure I wouldn't attend such stuff,more bother than it is worth.

Premier league rules he has to do it,they can only ask about the upcoming game though

think managers are under contract( via tv companies etc) to give interviews .
as mentioned above totally correct re other managers, and lineker wouldnt dare have a go if it was one of those mentioned.

Perhaps the parameters of what constitutes "banter" need to be readdressed.. if moyes had gone up to a man in the street and said " he was going to slap them" then would anyone condemn that person beating Moyes gnarled ET face to a bloodied pulp? I suppose it depends how well Moyes knows this reporter but I fail to see the funny side of a middle aged man threatening to slap anyone particularly a female and I'm as far away from being "politically correct " as it comes.

If he meant it in a harmful way to demean a woman, he's a bully. If he meant it in jest then he's a coward for not defending his position (because he later apologised).

Much ado about nothing
The peep on here attacking Moyes must live in a bubble.

It's just a cheap jibe to try and protect his image for the future to not face any questions questioning his position.

Moyes is all about his own image, he is known for dining out journalists feeding them information in exchange for good press. Here he wasn't happy at someone asking some tough questions, and was trying to intimidate them into asking softer questions in the future.

he is known for dining out journalists feeding them information in exchange for good press

That is a fact? Know your customer.

n88uk every single manager in the country has at least 1 media contact who they favour with exclusives and etc so why highlight Moyes.

Listen to it again. Its not only banter, its flirtatious banter.

Because why do you think Moyes is so protected in the first place. Moyes is rock bottom yet you barely see any coverage saying Moyes has to go. The media had sacked Guidolin and appointed Giggs long before Guidolin sacked, and he was doing a better job than Moyes was, and that's just one of many examples.

Listen to it again. Its not only banter, its flirtatious banter.

I think you're doing it wrong Plat if you think that's flirting.

   That's how Weegies flirt.

Wan shum bucky hen?

Thought that was the classic Weegie chat up line. Maybe you're right, maybe  we should be giving Moyes credit for being so chivalrous.

Platini
Listen to it again. Its not only banter, its flirtatious banter.

You want a slap is a chat up line in Glasgow.

Thank fook he stayed away from Glasgow and ended up in Sunderland

At least Lineker's hostility means we won't have to endure Moyes on MOtD when he is sacked . Expect he has a veto on who sits on the sofa.

Would rather have Moyes than Lineker.

Moyesey has a way with the ladies.

Is it true that lineker used to play away a lot when on england duty pun intended not