Chelsea v Liverpool

redded out.

Conte will be tearing his nails out.

Sep 16, 2016 -- 8:20PM, Platini wrote:

redded out.

Far too hasty.

Chelsea can't defend whatsoever, they even managed to concede 2 to Swansea last weekend, they could be conceding even more this evening.

Liverpool are so good away from home against the big teams. it plays right into their strategy

if only every coach had the same attacking attitude of Klopp

Big team ?

Chelsea wont ever be a big team again unless they get some flare players or wingers, all their creative players play narrow with one striker to aim at, Chelsea are hopeless unless they get lucky against stupid teams that allow central runners.

what a fúcking goal

0-2

doesn't look too hasty ATM

blinding goal la..chavski overrated sh1te

It's looking increasingly likely that this'll finally be Liverpool's year.

Meanwhile over in Spain, NO bookings in first half at Betis

have chelsea been drinkng all afternoon ?

Why the hell is "live view" not working?  I need to keep refreshing.  IS it just me?

if these scousers can play consistently..like the way they play
they will be the only feasible threat to Citeh

not just you sofa

i have citeh/pool in my rfc

Sep 16, 2016 -- 8:41PM, johnnythebull wrote:

if these scousers can play consistently..like the way they playthey will be the only feasible threat to Citeh

The problem is that they'll drop lots of points to the so called smaller teams. EG. Burnley.

Sofa. This is all you hear from pundits and the media. It's a bit lazy imo. It's one game against Burnley. Wait until we smash a couple of the lesser teams the next few weeks and people might not be saying it for much longer.

I think this is going to be the Liverpool of 13/14 again myself.

Citeh got previous for that as well
thing is there are so few 'easy' points available
even tho' the premiership is bigged up and overhyped
one thing that can't be denied is it's competitiveness

45 minutes away from a first clean sheet of the season.

see the abject failure as a manager
is soon back pushing buttons on his big screen
and knowing everything again

If they can get Suarez back, I'd give them a squeak.

Way too early to talk about the league. I would take 4th in a heartbeat right now.

What a half. Henderson getting back to his best after a heel injury that dogged him last season.

You've also got people saying we haven't addressed our defensive frailties. They won't be saying that after watching Matip for a few more weeks.

Sep 16, 2016 -- 8:47PM, Can't Catch Me wrote:

Sofa. This is all you hear from pundits and the media. It's a bit lazy imo. It's one game against Burnley. Wait until we smash a couple of the lesser teams the next few weeks and people might not be saying it for much longer. I think this is going to be the Liverpool of 13/14 again myself.

It's not lazy though.  They had a problem beating the smaller team all last season and their only game against a so called small team this season ended in a poor performance and a 2-0 loss.

at the end of the day
a strong defence is no bad thing
but if you score one more than the opposition
you always win

Red card in Betis

Charwell
Way too early to talk about the league. I would take 4th in a heartbeat right now.

I reckon you'd take a winning selection in a heartbeat too you complete mug.

But my point is that's not just a Liverpool thing sofa. It's every team in the league. It's so competeive these days that every one of the so called bigger sides will suffer against the lesser teams.

Somebody isn't happy with the way this match is going..........

3 wins in 14 against the top 7; 2 losses in 14 against the bottom 7 - the smaller teams weren't the problem last season.

way too early to be drawing massive conclusions about any team if you ask me. city aside very little to choose between the other 5 of the big 6

good move taking off sturridge and bringing on origi

You must be joking mafe. I know you've a constant anti Liverpool bias. But you'd have to be pretty blinkered not to think Loverpool have looked better then everyone else bar City so far.

1-2.

2-0 down by half time at Burnley or is that blinkered?

Still no clean sheet.

game on

I cashed out at 1.22

That's one game though hippie. How about the other three and a half? Outplayed Spurs, Arsenal, and Chelsea in the first half and stuffed the champions.

1-3 incomming

Clean sheets are over rated. Goals win games.

2-2 incoming.

that's 25% of games and as much as I keep hearing Liverpool outplayed Spurs the stats don't agree and you still only took a point.

Betting wise I'd love a draw.
A travesty if Liverpool don't win this though.

so you're telling he we didn't outplay you? Blimey.

is liveview fixed?

no it isn't! it's this thread. ffs so annoying

Equal possession, equal number of shots and equal number of corners against an under-strength dispirited Spurs. How is that outplayed?

Hazard wants out imho. Hes a gutless cretin.

CCM, of course liverpool have looked impressive in most of their games but like i said it's 5 games so far. way too early to think it's means much long term

in contrast arsenal have looked as poor as any of the top sides but almost certainly they'll still finish top 4

Sep 16, 2016 -- 9:27PM, wisewords wrote:

no it isn't! it's this thread. ffs so annoying

Live view fine for platinum users

Hippie. I've seen countless games where we've matched sides statistically but been the worse side.

you had 3 shots on target that day.

Not disagreeing with that mafe. Its definitely too early. But from a small five game sample we've looked the second best team in the league. That's the only point I'm making. Got to show we can maintain that for a prolonged period now.

How many teams will get 7 points from their 3 games at Stamford Bridge, the Emirates and WHL? I'd back none. Could easily have been all 9 as well.

Klopp Vs Pep will be some game

How many teams will get mauled by Burnley though?

Plenty

any of the top teams would probably take 4 from those 3 games let alone 7 but i tend to think results in the big games are overrated. it's piling up the points in the run of the mill games something arsenal for example do brilliantly season after season that's more important

Tend to agree with opposition fans CCM. We have played great against the big sides for years but banana skins aplenty versus the smaller sides.

Am hopeful more than convinced we can rectify that.

Hippie. Have a look at the match stats tonight for the perfect case in point. They suggest, if anything, Chelsea edged it.

the final score would tend to suggest they didn't

Long way to go charwell. But Ive got s really good feeling and think we've got the balance a lot better this season. Matip and Mane already look like big players for us and neither played against Burnley. Every team will have off days, especially early in the season.

That woman looks slightly uncomfortable in the studio.

i think everyone's missing the point here
the only question that counts is
if Klopp stays any length of time at liverpool
will that heavy teutonic accent
be replaced by a sciuse one la?

scouse ffs

WTF's she doing there more to the point?
more PC b0llocks

Bit like Top Gear.  The ginger guy, the woman, the black guy and the Irish guy.

rachel

BBC bang out of order
no muslim on TG

Banging yer head against brick wall there CCM, Weve looked the best team in the league bar none,ONE if pressed.....City however played absolutely no one!We have totally outplayed the TOP THREE in the league last year,Gubbed the money throwing Cheatski in own back yard.Lost to Burnley yes but totally battered them,lost freakish first minute goal there too!

Fearing no one at all!

Good call from OP but Luiz couldn't be faulted tonight.

Precisely this sort of crap that makes us a laughing stock when we lose.

We have done well so far but its 5 games. City have looked better. Everton have looked better. Lets just see how it pans out.

Sideshow Bob was Chelseas best player.

Sep 16, 2016 -- 10:26PM, jedi sophie wrote:

Banging yer head against brick wall there CCM, Weve looked the best team in the league bar none,ONE if pressed.....City however played absolutely no one!We have totally outplayed the TOP THREE in the league last year,Gubbed the money throwing Cheatski in own back yard.Lost to Burnley yes but totally battered them,lost freakish first minute goal there too!Fearing no one at all!

Liverpool fans' reputation as the most delusional in world football is not completely unfounded.

Everton have looked better? Give over.

Well, at least I got the score right (though not necessarily in the right order).

Costa scored, so not too bad on the night.

Early days yet but potentially Liverpool looked nailed on for a top 4 position-.lets see were Liverpool l are at xmas Odds for Prem had dropped 4 points by half time tonight now 7/1.

Did you watch Everton v Sunderland..appaling stuff bar ten minutes when Sunderland committed suicide...LOL COMMENT..Played absolutely no one of calibre at all.

Everton played Spurs Stoke at home,WBA and Sunderland away!!!! and looked better than us after our fixtures!!!!Deary fookin me!

Not talking about the calibre of opposition.

But they have 10 points from 4 games and we have 10 from 5. We have lost a game and they haven't.

Clearly I think we are the better team but a level of sanity needs to kick in after the euphoria of a great 3 points.

It does indeed. But to suggest Everton have looked better than us this season is still crazy!

Their Goals conceded column is far superior.

Only 2 goals conceded in all competitions so far ( 5 games ), Liverpool haven't kept a cleansheet yet in the league ( 5 games )

Totally irrelevant. Look who they've played and who we've played.

no sign of uncle

Thats how Leicester won the league, a solid no nonsense defence Huth, Moore, Schmichael, and an Italian manager

Vardy n Mahrez goals fook all to do with it right enough..Kante drinkwater in middle...
Lets see how Everton get on at WHL,EMIRATES,STAMFORD BRIDGE....

Just saying, Final League table last season

                                 Pl.    pt.     gd.            Home                                     Away

                                                                W.   D.     L.     Gf.    Ga.          w.    D.     L.     Gf.   Ga
1    Leicester City    38    81    +32         12    6    1    35    18         11    6    2    33    18

Less than one goal conceded per game all season 36 in total

Awful paste

Liverpool nailed on for top 4, possibly as high as 2nd.  Don't like saying it, as I'm not a fan of theirs at all, but Klopp has them playing really well with a squad that's not cost a lot.  Think they broke around even in the transfer window with the sales they made.  JK possibly the best manager in the league as he hasn't resorted to mad money deals like the Mancs clubs.  Arsenal could miss out this year.

probably 9 seasons out of the 10 team conceding fewest goals will be 1st or 2nd

i know liverpool almost won the league with suarez whilst conceding bucketloads but it's pretty hard if you're always needing to score 2 and 3 to win

Made £14m profit from transfer dealings.

Yes Rodgers and Kevin Keegan tried the 'you score three we score 4 method' to win the League with Liverpool and Newcastle but fell in the last furlong.
Scoring for fun works in leagues like La Liga and the Bundesliga for Barca and Bayern Munich not the Premier League though.

Biggest bet I've had in a while tonight on Liverpool. Always thought that Klopp was a proper judge and that Conte is a bluffer. Don't see him lasting till Christmas. How on earth can you expect to stop Liverpool with Ivanovic and Cahill, two of the slowest people in the world, in the defence? Conte was lucky Firminho didn't play instead of Sturridge, they'd have got beat seven.

when leicester had that run of 4 successive 1-0 wins in march i think they had about 6 shots on target in total

They will be remembered though. Years to come, we'll remember the Arsenal side of 2004, United's Treble winners of 1998, maybe even Mourinho's 2005 team that got 95 points. But we'll remember Leicester. Saying it even now, Leicester City won the League, there's something unreal about it.

when leicester had that run of 4 successive 1-0 wins in march i think they had about 6 shots on target in total Cry

Thats the Italian coaching for you, but it did the trick. Ranieri did ok at Chelsea but I think Abramovich wanted more entertainment and got rid.

Man u vs Man c, Chelsea vs Liverpool.  Adventure triumphs over caution.  Positive football beats negative football.  Mourinho prob. too long in the tooth/stuck in his ways to change but what about Conte?
Most of his better results seem to have come when he made timely attacking subs.  You would have thought that would have told him something.  Playing deep with 2 dms and 1 upfront at home aint going to cut it esp. when they lose.  It just handed the initiative to Liverpool.
If i remember rightly, he had a rep. for tactical inflexibility in Italy.  The EPL is a different animal to Serie A.  Will he adapt?  I look on with interest.