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The Dragon
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Drew 0-0 last time they met  can see it being very similar Sam happy with a draw I reckon , don't think it will be a goal fest for sure

will take the 5/2 draw with 365
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Report wisewords September 4, 2016 6:47 PM BST
SAN MARINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Report wisewords September 4, 2016 6:48 PM BST
disallowed boooo
Report gotia September 4, 2016 6:48 PM BST
Slovak keeper bett then Hart
Report wisewords September 4, 2016 6:48 PM BST
Slovenia 2-2
Report tommo1000 September 4, 2016 6:48 PM BST
Well, what do we think of Big Sams revolution then Laugh

it`s a very quiet revolution
Report themightymac September 4, 2016 6:49 PM BST
Took them 85 minutes to wake up.
Report TheChaser September 4, 2016 6:49 PM BST
NO GOAL OFFSIDE LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Ibrahima Sonko September 4, 2016 6:49 PM BST
dodgy decision
Report wisewords September 4, 2016 6:49 PM BST
CAME OFF A DEFENDER
Report gotia September 4, 2016 6:49 PM BST
ffs offside  ..   Uefa doesnt want us to win .. they dont want us
Report rommel September 4, 2016 6:49 PM BST
HA HA U TWATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTS
Report minka September 4, 2016 6:50 PM BST
Clutching at straws
Report OVERSEAS September 4, 2016 6:50 PM BST
ref knows its a goal but cant change mind now....karma for how sh**e we are
Report skygreenzone September 4, 2016 6:50 PM BST
Thats me finished with the national team its too embarrasing to watch.
Report Baulkline September 4, 2016 6:51 PM BST
At least Walcott knows the rules so we must be grateful for that
Report tommo1000 September 4, 2016 6:51 PM BST
is sam allowed to shout at the players in the dressing room???
Report DAN1974 September 4, 2016 6:52 PM BST
Sam will be pleased, NAP.
Report geordie1956 September 4, 2016 6:52 PM BST
the pundits now suggesting 1 point against 10 men is a decent result ffs
Report sewter lives again September 4, 2016 6:52 PM BST
Scotland will beat England
Report jewell September 4, 2016 6:52 PM BST

Sep 4, 2016 -- 12:44PM, Try My Best wrote:


For all those coaches in charge of kids football teams I implore you to stop talking shiite and let kids take people on and encourage skill and individuality. If you don't this is the mess that we will have to witness for the next 100 years


Won't happen, mate.

We need a complete footballing culture change in this country, from top to bottom. That includes managers, administrators, broadcasters, media, coaches and fans.

Fans are part of the problem too, they expect everyone to graft at the back and put a shift in, even the flair players whose sole focus should be attacking. This attitude needs to change. Players like Gascoigne were always viewed with suspicion in this country, seen as a luxury player.

I think it's really sad when you think that someone like Messi would not have emerged in this country. He would have been discarded straight up, would not have even been given a chance. Unfortunately, coaches prefer massive lumps like Conor Wickham and others of that ilk.

Report meejit September 4, 2016 6:52 PM BST
can england never just accept the rules?
Report tommo1000 September 4, 2016 6:52 PM BST
the Slovak defender durica is one hell of a player
Report meejit September 4, 2016 6:53 PM BST
cheat attempts all the time
Report tangsoodo September 4, 2016 6:53 PM BST
some sense being talked on here for once
Report TheChaser September 4, 2016 6:53 PM BST
Looks like the manager is going to be given players and he uses them as he wishes , or maybe he is allowed to pick a few subs like Drinkwater etc but told not to play them.
Report Southsider September 4, 2016 6:53 PM BST
nice job england. next match will be difficult too.. Home against Malta
Report tangsoodo September 4, 2016 6:53 PM BST
Wales beat these comfortably. We failed twice.
Report DAN1974 September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
OMG
Report gotia September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
gtfe
Report wisewords September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
LALLANNAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Report stroodle September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
England need to start picking players from clubs outside the normal top 5 clubs, these bastards look good with teams packed with good players, bring in players who stand out in smaller clubs, probably have more about them.
Report Des Pond September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
unlucky 0-0 backers!
Report Southsider September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
GOAOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
Report Rugbyleaguer September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
Well I for one am a very proud English man, a huge improvement on our last international result.

Big Sam I salute you
Report Ibrahima Sonko September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
poor slovaks
Report OVERSEAS September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
celebrated as if we have won the World Cup...you couldnt make it up..
Report skygreenzone September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
ok i'll watch the next game.
Report hippie September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
GTFI!

Never in doubt Cool
Report minka September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
Look at That SMIRK ON SAM'S FACE
Report DAN1974 September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
never in doubt Laugh
Report tommo1000 September 4, 2016 6:54 PM BST
f**K off you bunch of ****s(England I mean)
Report Baulkline September 4, 2016 6:55 PM BST
Headline tomorrow SAM-TASTIC
Report tangsoodo September 4, 2016 6:55 PM BST
Will we play one up front against Malta?
Report ashleigh September 4, 2016 6:55 PM BST
goalkeeper.Laugh
Report Puzzman September 4, 2016 6:55 PM BST
nice big bandaid for England.
Report rommel September 4, 2016 6:55 PM BST
pukesville,we are steaming pilessssssssssss
Report Des Pond September 4, 2016 6:55 PM BST
needed the keeper to throw one in. Grin
Report JC1326 September 4, 2016 6:56 PM BST
Scots devasted, thought they may actually be top of the group. Assuming they can beat Malta
Report Baulkline September 4, 2016 6:56 PM BST
Sam should hang his head in shame at that performance, not celebrating the goal
Report dr . atkins September 4, 2016 6:56 PM BST
lucky manager
Report hippie September 4, 2016 6:56 PM BST
Makes you wonder what Slovakia thought they'd achieve by being so negative
Report JC1326 September 4, 2016 6:56 PM BST
*devastated*
Report wisewords September 4, 2016 6:56 PM BST
Poland match odds (2-2 full time)/b]
1.01              £62
1.02              £109,203
1.03              £67,755

[b]Lithuania match odds (2-2 full time)


1.03             £547
1.04             £1,697
1.05             £1,333
1.06             £4,964
1.07             £5,060
1.08             £5,134
1.09             £26,064
1.1             £16,298

Draw in Slovakia/England (0-1 full time)


1.05             £5,279
1.06             £7,969
1.07             £13,736
1.08                  £35,087
1.09             £39,113
1.1             £34,544
1.11             £18,973
Report wisewords September 4, 2016 6:57 PM BST
Poland match odds (2-2 full time)
1.01              £62
1.02              £109,203
1.03              £67,755

Lithuania match odds (2-2 full time)

1.03             £547
1.04             £1,697
1.05             £1,333
1.06             £4,964
1.07             £5,060
1.08             £5,134
1.09             £26,064
1.1             £16,298

Draw in Slovakia/England (0-1 full time)


1.05             £5,279
1.06             £7,969
1.07             £13,736
1.08                  £35,087
1.09             £39,113
1.1             £34,544
1.11             £18,973
Report Southsider September 4, 2016 6:57 PM BST
:D happy people
Report hippie September 4, 2016 6:57 PM BST
C'MON MALTA!
Report Southsider September 4, 2016 6:57 PM BST
Grin
Report jewell September 4, 2016 6:58 PM BST

Sep 4, 2016 -- 12:56PM, wisewords wrote:


Poland match odds (2-2 full time)/b]1.01              £621.02              £109,2031.03              £67,755[b]Lithuania match odds (2-2 full time)1.03             £5471.04             £1,6971.05             £1,3331.06             £4,9641.07             £5,0601.08             £5,1341.09             £26,0641.1             £16,298Draw in Slovakia/England (0-1 full time)1.05             £5,2791.06             £7,9691.07             £13,7361.08                  £35,0871.09             £39,1131.1             £34,5441.11             £18,973


That Poland gub is brutal. The other two you could kind of see coming.

Report DAN1974 September 4, 2016 6:58 PM BST
Top of the group, easy peasy, about 10/1 for the world cup now i reckon
Report sewter lives again September 4, 2016 6:58 PM BST
That was the worst thing that could have happened

Papers over the cracks

the players will think "they done good"
Report minka September 4, 2016 6:59 PM BST
GIVE SAM A KNIGHTHOOD I RECKON
Report songsforthedeaf September 4, 2016 6:59 PM BST

Sep 4, 2016 -- 12:52PM, jewell wrote:


Sep  4, 2016 --  6:44PM, Try My Best wrote:For all those coaches in charge of kids football teams I implore you to stop talking shiite and let kids take people on and encourage skill and individuality. If you don't this is the mess that we will have to witness for the next 100 yearsWon't happen, mate.We need a complete footballing culture change in this country, from top to bottom. That includes managers, administrators, broadcasters, media, coaches and fans.Fans are part of the problem too, they expect everyone to graft at the back and put a shift in, even the flair players whose sole focus should be attacking. This attitude needs to change. Players like Gascoigne were always viewed with suspicion in this country, seen as a luxury player.I think it's really sad when you think that someone like Messi would not have emerged in this country. He would have been discarded straight up, would not have even been given a chance. Unfortunately, coaches prefer massive lumps like Conor Wickham and others of that ilk.


Pretty much agree with that.

Also if people are basing their opinion one way or another on the result of a friendly, then you are very much part of the attitude problem.

Report Try My Best September 4, 2016 6:59 PM BST
jewell

Won't happen, mate.

We need a complete footballing culture change in this country, from top to bottom. That includes managers, administrators, broadcasters, media, coaches and fans.

Fans are part of the problem too, they expect everyone to graft at the back and put a shift in, even the flair players whose sole focus should be attacking. This attitude needs to change. Players like Gascoigne were always viewed with suspicion in this country, seen as a luxury player.

I think it's really sad when you think that someone like Messi would not have emerged in this country. He would have been discarded straight up, would not have even been given a chance. Unfortunately, coaches prefer massive lumps like Conor Wickham and others of that ilk.

Couldn't agree more.
Report EastLower Gooner September 4, 2016 6:59 PM BST
To be fair...England were really pushing for the winner there and didn't look as dog sh#t as there were vs Iceland
Report Try My Best September 4, 2016 7:02 PM BST
Might be the case they were playing with an extra player and still didn't create f all
Report Greg_Gory September 4, 2016 7:04 PM BST
total fix walofs on here Laugh
Report themightymac September 4, 2016 7:04 PM BST
Scotland will walk that Group.
Report MC Roller September 4, 2016 7:04 PM BST
I love it when negative time wasting teams concede very late on. Serves you right you pathetic anti football mugs.

hahahahahaha
Report betchat September 4, 2016 7:06 PM BST
It's a relief to know that Sam isn't going to tinker with England's traditional and renowned football style and flair.
Report ufcdan September 4, 2016 7:06 PM BST
Usually I'd bol0ck the missus for serving up dinner while footballs on, my chicken roast was a welcome distraction Love
Report mecca September 4, 2016 7:07 PM BST
I like Sam.  Good black country lad
Report Try My Best September 4, 2016 7:07 PM BST
SAM TALKING UTTER BALLOCKS
Report Baulkline September 4, 2016 7:08 PM BST
Want to know the reason England won? Bradley Walsh and Paddy McGuiness
Report ufcdan September 4, 2016 7:09 PM BST
Confirmed Rooney untouchable, he is the future ! Moscow bound CryCryCryCryCryCry
Report ufcdan September 4, 2016 7:10 PM BST
Like England I can't compete with that Reg Wink
Report fool proof September 4, 2016 7:11 PM BST
Rooney can play wherever he likes
Report mecca September 4, 2016 7:13 PM BST
Praising Alli now...

He had a shocking game
Report ufcdan September 4, 2016 7:14 PM BST
You really are posh Reg CoolCoolCool
Report DAN1974 September 4, 2016 7:15 PM BST
How the feck can a manager say that a player can play wherever he wants? what kind of message does that send out.
Report ufcdan September 4, 2016 7:17 PM BST
TBF Dan Chelsea had a player who played where he wanted back in the day Petar Barota.........goalkeeper Mischief
Report Try My Best September 4, 2016 7:49 PM BST
Bonetti
Report lybertyne September 4, 2016 9:25 PM BST
I missed tha Lallana goal as I had fallen asleep shortly after the red card incident.
Report 1st time poster September 5, 2016 9:18 AM BST
this is the bit i dont get regards rooney he,s played for england and a top club under numerous so called top coaches
so lets say i was given the training for a week and the players listened to what i had to say, every time rooney played a floaty,sq 50,60 yd attempted  passs out to the fullbacks, when the opposition had everyone behind the ball you,d stop training and say no wayne thats not what we,re trying to achieve but rooney just carrys on and seems really happy at his attempted pass,s not realising or not bothered thats exactly what the opposition want him to do,i really cant believe this is what fergie,jose,cappello,woy sam etc spent all week asking him to do
Report OnePercenter September 5, 2016 9:40 AM BST
Does Rooney pick the squad too?
Report Somerset Sam September 5, 2016 10:20 AM BST
When Sam comes in he'll whip these underworked, overpaid prima donnas into shape, and get the best out of an underperforming squad.

One game in and apparently not.
Report OnePercenter September 5, 2016 10:31 AM BST
Very disappointed with Allardyce's decision to let Rooney play where ever he likes. Does not sound like strong management and is not ever going to get England to the WC semis which should surely be the minimum the FA want.
Report DAN1974 September 5, 2016 11:12 AM BST
I was all for Big Sam coming in, for the reasons mentioned above. I was flabbergasted with what i saw last night and with what i heard after the game.
I just don't get it. Every man and his dog could see the formation was wrong in the Euros, i have not heard any pundit, fan, ex pro or anyone who thinks Rooney should be playing a deep lying role spraying 40 yard diagonal balls around.
   Like i said earlier in the thread i'm starting to believe all of the conspiracy theories.

Whatever you believe it certainly looks like things aren't going to change much, which is really depressing. Sad
Report tangsoodo September 5, 2016 11:23 AM BST
^ same exactly
Report enpassant September 5, 2016 12:27 PM BST
Rooney : apparently to big to tell him where to play. Ridiculous. We have 2 more years of the same ineptitude ahead of us, at a minimum. Henderson and Dier with Rooney hahaha utterly depressing.
Report nors September 5, 2016 12:29 PM BST
Nothing much seemed to have changed. However he didn't have much choice with the players to choose from.
Report 1st time poster September 5, 2016 12:29 PM BST
its unfathomable
day one ,min one on training ground from any of the million coaches,managers in england,the opposition want to get 10 men behind the ball and want us to use our best players to play 50 ,60 yd passes to fullbacks so rule no 1 we dont do it ,get it capiche,
not us we pay fat sam 3 million to tell rooney to do what he wants which 99% of the time is what the opposition manager wants,maybe its some cunning baldrick type plan to do away with opposition managers, like i say unfathomable
why doesnt someone sit rooney,englands midfield down and show them the 100,s upon 100,s of attempted crosses walkers has either brayed into a defenders arse or into the crowd,
on another point i presume when walkers braying the ball into a defender he,s aiming for an attacker or space in the box,why not try aiming for the defender in the 1st place on his track record when aiming to hit him 99% of the time he,ll miss him and end up putting it in the box by default, LaughLaugh
Report tangsoodo September 5, 2016 12:31 PM BST
why are we such a mess
Report enpassant September 5, 2016 1:03 PM BST
Walker is not a patch on Cline, Dier and Henderson should never, ever, be picked in the same side again (or in the first place in fact), sterling needs Pep to teach him how to play with a ball before we pick him again. But all the opinions in the world count for nothing when Rooney not only gets into the squad but gets to choose, ad hoc, where he wants to play. You couldn't make it up.
Report johnnythebull September 5, 2016 1:38 PM BST
i don't get all this vitriol for the greatest player that has ever graced the game
always in top shape,blessed with a razor sharp mind
what manager would not want him in the side to make onfield and off field decisions?
so allowing the manager to not get too stressed and burnt out
and incur the opprobrium of our infamous media
Report TheChaser September 5, 2016 2:17 PM BST
Sam says he can't pick where Rooney plays

So Is Wazza like some joint coach or something or just demands a free roll , makes up for his excuses about being out of position at everything i suppose.
Report tim6 September 5, 2016 2:20 PM BST
johnny who are we talking about pele, maradonna, best, messi as there are a lot just not sure which one you think is the greatest player
Report ffaith September 5, 2016 3:43 PM BST
Rooney is like a general that 'leads' his men from the back rather than the front.  Not out of cowardice but simply because he is well past his peak.
Still I don't blame Rooney.  I blame his indulgers, his enablers.
Men like Sam and Moyes prob. have an inferior complex in the present of Wazza.  After all he is a multiple title winner, UCL winner, top England scorer, etc and they have won f-all.
Report 1st time poster September 5, 2016 3:50 PM BST
its annoying when managers,pundits etc go on about the lack of players when they cant even pick the best 11 in a formation from a choice of 15,raniere didnt scream about wanting more players last season,you can only play 11
Report salmon spray September 5, 2016 3:54 PM BST
I think Wayne's superior IQ has given Sam an inferiority complex.
Report johnnythebull September 5, 2016 5:09 PM BST
2 always beats 1Wink
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