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tobermory
02 Jul 16 18:31
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Pep wants him so i guess City will pay

Fans from around Europe must be watching in amazement that England has these £50M players that can't even get on the pitch against Iceland Excited
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Report tobermory July 2, 2016 6:32 PM BST
Manchester City want to buy Everton defender John Stones, but would have to pay the Goodison Park club around £50m for the England international.

New City manager Pep Guardiola is keen to make Stones his next high-profile transfer of the summer.

Stones was one of only two outfield players not to see action in England's disappointing Euro 2016 campaign.

Talks have yet to take place, but the asking price would make Stones, 22, Britain's most expensive defender.

Everton have no need to sell, but the possibility is growing that Stones will leave before the start of the new Premier League season.

He was at the centre of a transfer battle last summer when Everton rejected a succession of bids rising up to almost £40m from Chelsea, simply refusing to sell to then manager Jose Mourinho.

Guardiola has made Stones, who has 10 England caps, a priority target as he prepares to renew his rivalry with Mourinho, who is now across the city at Manchester United, and looks certain to get his man.

Manchester City have already signed Ilkay Gundogan from Borussia Dortmund and completed a £13.8m deal for Spain forward Nolito from Celta Vigo after their interest in Euro 2016 was ended by Italy.

Everton will give any money they get for Stones to new manager Ronald Koeman to increase his already considerable transfer fund.
Report Ibrahima Sonko July 2, 2016 6:43 PM BST
You could probably get 5 better defenders for £50m
Report crystalhunt July 2, 2016 6:47 PM BST
The world's gone mad
Report tobermory July 2, 2016 6:48 PM BST
Not sure i have ever seen a player be so highly regarded for having done so little Confused

Seems a very wide consensus amongst top level managers that this is gonna be one of the best players in the world , but when you see him play often looks out of his depth at mid table Premier Lg level
Report tunnocks July 2, 2016 6:51 PM BST
if george best was playing now what would he be worth?
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 2, 2016 6:59 PM BST
very little, he'd be 70 now
Report BARNEY15C July 2, 2016 7:08 PM BST
more money than sense these clubs
Report Meadow X1 July 2, 2016 7:08 PM BST
£50 million for a player who couldn't get a game for a diddy team like England?
Report BARNEY15C July 2, 2016 7:09 PM BST
will sell him on for a loss i reckon
Report gotitwrong- July 2, 2016 7:12 PM BST
lucky for everton he didn't get a game for england , price would have halved if he had got on the pitch
Report Ibrahima Sonko July 2, 2016 7:17 PM BST
Barnsley must be praying that he is sold for that silly amount.
Report 11kv July 2, 2016 7:33 PM BST
At least some good will come of it then
Report guinness2dear July 2, 2016 8:11 PM BST
Barnsley will get nowt
Report Clouseau July 2, 2016 8:31 PM BST
If it helps complete the deal, and assuming Pep reads this forum, I've got the car warmed up and I'll drive him over there for you tonight if you want. Mischief
Report Racingqueen July 2, 2016 8:33 PM BST
You could probably get 5 better defenders for £50m

you could get 5 better defenders for a half eaten mars bar and a set of used tracksuits

hes shockingly 5hit
Report tobermory July 2, 2016 8:37 PM BST
Couldn't City just buy Bonucci , who actually does all the stuff Stones theoretically has the potential to do Confused
Report Puzzman July 2, 2016 8:38 PM BST
Probably sees him as a home-grown criteria meeting bench warmer...
Report donny osmond July 2, 2016 8:38 PM BST
shirley you could buy any centre half for £50 million
Report lybertyne July 2, 2016 8:38 PM BST
If Stones is worth £50m and let's say he is 1000x better than I am then I'm worth £50,000.Laugh
Report Clouseau July 2, 2016 8:45 PM BST
^^^^ tbf Robson-Kanu's "Cruyff turn" last night would have had all 1000 of you fecking off for a cup of tea.
Report OnePercenter July 2, 2016 9:00 PM BST
Any industry that pays Roy Hodgson £10,000 a day every day for 4 years has clearly lost all sense of reality.
Report miss.wales July 2, 2016 11:13 PM BST
He had a shocking second half of the season but so did most of the Everton team. If Woy had asked the Everton fans, 100% of them would have told him that Jagielka was the better choice for the Euros.

Stones started to believe his own hype and thought he could simply carry the ball past pressing attackers all the time. Major attitude problems emerged and he even fell out with the crowd, albeit that's not difficult at Goodison.

Nevertheless the main problem is that he's not a great header of the ball, which is not ideal for a centre half.

On balance I'd be a seller as long as we spend the proceeds on the team.
Report Roger The Butler July 3, 2016 12:03 AM BST
One of the few England players who didn't embarrass himself totally at the Euros, and as many of them are rated as £30m - £50m then £50m seems fair.
Report Racingqueen July 3, 2016 1:02 AM BST
what makes me chuckle is when they(media) spout 5hite about him being a ball playing centre half with a sneer insinuating that guys like Sol Campbell, Tony Adams etc... were just hoof it merchants. They(Sol, Adams, Keown etc) were all great centre halves who knew how to defend and rarely lost the ball in their own half. There was never an issue with their passing ability either.

Stones cannot defend and frequently loses the ball. Anyone paying 50m for him is a crack addict
Report kincsem July 3, 2016 6:50 AM BST
tobermory
Fans from around Europe must be watching in amazement that England has these £50M players that can't even get on the pitch against Iceland


The Emperor is wearing lovely new clothes. Devil
The overvaluation of players makes the housing market collapse look mild enough.
Report charwell. July 3, 2016 3:18 PM BST
It's truly astonishing that in this country players get reputations/over hyped which does not seem affected by performances on the pitch.

Stones looked very amateurish at times last season and his performances were of a £5m player. Take a look at his performance during LFC's 4-0 win. He looked like Frank Butcher not Franco Baresi.

Rodwell, Sinclair etc show the evidence cannot be ignored. Stones is a ball playing English defender and everyone hyped him up to be the next Bobby Moore. He never will be. He has a lot of potential but currently struggles to actually defend.

£20m is realistic in the current market. But if EFC can pull Man City's trousers down then fair play to them as Koeman will buy about 3 quality players for that including a better replacement.
Report DirkDiggler July 3, 2016 3:33 PM BST
Everton should emulate Liverpool and run off laughing into the sunset with £50M of City's money. Mane £30M? Stones £50M?

It's crazy.
Report RothmanMike July 3, 2016 3:53 PM BST
But he can't defend for f ucks sake
Report Outpost July 3, 2016 4:46 PM BST
well man utd are reported to be willing to pay £100m for pogba who has done as little as stones at euro 2016
Report Si-K July 3, 2016 5:40 PM BST
He is worth at least £95million
Report spyker July 3, 2016 7:31 PM BST
How much did utd get for him when fergie got rid a few years back?
Report tobermory July 3, 2016 7:32 PM BST
Pogba was free to Juve i think as contract up
Report OnePercenter July 3, 2016 7:41 PM BST
Pogba has done well this season. I think he will turn down United but if he did come for £100m why should the fans worry? It is the Glazer's money.
Report spyker July 3, 2016 8:47 PM BST
One could look at it like that 1%, an alternattive view is to think what would have happened if utd had kept him.......Moyes might be leading you to your 4th champ on the trot...........
Report tobermory July 6, 2016 9:30 PM BST

Jul 2, 2016 -- 8:37PM, tobermory wrote:


Couldn't City just buy Bonucci , who actually does all the stuff Stones theoretically has the potential to do


And now City have bid £38M for Bonucci. Juve rejected it.

Report Ibrahima Sonko July 6, 2016 9:40 PM BST
at least city are being better in this window than others, if they had singed Chiellini 5 years ago there history would had been so much different.
Report roache July 6, 2016 9:56 PM BST
Chiellini now that's what I call a proper defender,£50 mill for Stones insane
Report Bump July 6, 2016 11:01 PM BST
I'm a blue so a little biased maybe but he is very good.He's only 22 so City or whoever gets him could get 10 years from him.Young lads have dips in form and last season was a struggle for him no doubt.I think he'll kick on next season and hope it's with Everton.
Report Ibrahima Sonko July 7, 2016 10:10 AM BST
Gone are the days when you get a young player and the transfer works out as value because you might get 10 years out of them, in the modern game you will pay them wages well above their worth and guess what, if they turn out decent they will hold your club to ransom and want a massive wage until there mid thirties, ala rooney.

Better off going for 10 john stones and hoping one would work out.

Michael Hector & Jake Cooper are nearly as good as John Stones, who could both improve past him under the right coach imo.
Report DirkDiggler July 7, 2016 12:49 PM BST
I'm a blue so a little biased maybe but he is very good.He's only 22 so City or whoever gets him could get 10 years from him.Young lads have dips in form and last season was a struggle for him no doubt.I think he'll kick on next season and hope it's with Everton.


Swap a few things around and that could have been written about Raheem Sterling.
Report guinness2dear July 7, 2016 1:00 PM BST
He will got to Citeh for 70 mill..
Report toffee87 July 7, 2016 1:59 PM BST
To echo what a few have said on here, he's not worth £50m and I'm not sure why we rejected £40m last year (although if his price has gone up £10m on the back of a very poor season then maybe that decision has been justified)

He may turn out to be a good defender but at the moment he isn't - his best position may end up in front of the back 4 as he is not a bad reader of the ball and is comfortable on the ball but isn't good at the "dirty" centre half stuff like winning headers and throwing his body in front of shots - he does time a good last ditch tackle though

Its funny how City bought Lescott for £24m and may potentially buy Stones for £50m but have never been interested in our best centre half in the last decade Jagielka - a proper defender
Report themover July 7, 2016 2:22 PM BST
maybe Lescott and Stones just made Jagielka look half decent Wink
Report dixie August 13, 2016 5:08 PM BST
47.5m.

Best of luck John Stones.
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